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Dad who died during arrest 'begged for his life'; witness videos seized
www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com ^ | Thursday, May 09 2013 07:07 PM | BY LAURA LIERA AND JASON KOTOWSKI

Posted on 05/11/2013 9:03:23 AM PDT by redreno

Blood stains are still visible on the sidewalk at the corner of Flower Street and Palm Drive, where a Bakersfield man struggled with as many as nine officers and later died this week.

David Sal Silva, 33 and the father of four young children, died early Wednesday morning after deputies say he fought with them and CHP officers who'd responded to a report of a possibly intoxicated man outside Kern Medical Center.

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1 posted on 05/11/2013 9:03:23 AM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

You’ve got six men there and they have to beat someone in the head until he is unconscious in order to apprehend him?

Sorry folks—pack syndrome in full action here./


2 posted on 05/11/2013 9:10:50 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Apparently they couldn’t find a dog that needed killing....


3 posted on 05/11/2013 9:11:29 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: redreno

So, the only thing this man was ever accused of was public intoxication.

I hope the city controller is ready to start dusting off the checkbook.


4 posted on 05/11/2013 9:13:22 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: redreno
I don't know how new this technique is, but apparently if you videotape the cops misbehaving, they can now take away your phone because it is "evidence" from crime scene. I wonder how often the cops end up "destroying evidence"?

Tello said the phone of the first witness was taken after the deputies told him he was either going to give up the phone the easy way or the hard way.

"They basically told him they were either going to keep him at this house all night until they could find a judge to sign a search warrant or he could just turn over his phone," he said.

The witness gave up his phone two hours before he had to get to work and was told by deputies that he could collect his phone the next day after they had extracted the evidence they needed, Tello said.

5 posted on 05/11/2013 9:13:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

Cops gone wild.


6 posted on 05/11/2013 9:15:32 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: redreno

Tello said the witness was not allowed to go anywhere with her phone and was being quarantined inside her home.

We call this FELONY KIDNAPPING see OJ in Vegas.

A search warrant wasn’t presented to either of the witnesses until after Tello arrived, he said, adding that one phone was seized before the warrant was produced.
the witness never got his phone back,

We Call this ARMED ROBBERY.

People who say they witnessed the incident as well as Silva’s family members described a scene in which deputies essentially were beating a helpless man to death. They were indignant that cellphone video had been taken away by deputies.

And we call this 1st Degree MURDER, every last person involved belongs in PRISON FOR LIFE.

Maybe it is time for a new Cell Phone App that automatically uploads ALL VIDEO TAKEN to Cloud Storage before the Jack Booted thugs STEAL YOUR PROPERTY in an effort to cover up their MURDERS.


7 posted on 05/11/2013 9:16:14 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Venturer

Some real tough guys there/s


8 posted on 05/11/2013 9:16:16 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: redreno

Does this mean now that if a citizen encounters an intoxicated PUBLIC SERVANT, we can Beat them to DEATH also?? I don not understand why one of the witnesses did not start shooting theses thug criminals to protect this victim .


9 posted on 05/11/2013 9:21:07 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: redreno

Living (and dying) in the ObamaNation police state can be tough.


10 posted on 05/11/2013 9:22:26 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is the root cause of violent crime in Mexico. - Barack Hussein Obama Jr.)
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To: jocon307
I hope the city controller is ready to start dusting off the checkbook.

Nuts to that...financial compensation should be taken right out of the hides of the cops themselves...no taxpayer money at all. Let them sell all their earthly posessions to pay the tab...garnish their wages until the day they die. Then maybe the others with itchy billy clubs and firearms will think twice.

11 posted on 05/11/2013 9:22:34 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Rusty0604

Police are there to preserve disorder.
Sadly, most of them have an US against THEM attitude.
Remember folks. Never talk to a pig. Always ask for a lawyer.


12 posted on 05/11/2013 9:23:08 AM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (Civilizations die from suicide, not murder.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The witness gave up his phone two hours before he had to get to work and was told by deputies that he could collect his phone the next day after they had extracted destroyed the evidence they needed, Tello said.

There. Fixed.

13 posted on 05/11/2013 9:23:50 AM PDT by null and void (America needs to be led by warriors not by lawyers)
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

I don’t trust them (not very many of them), and I can’t believe so many that say if ordered to bust in homes and confiscate guns the cops wouldn’t do it.


14 posted on 05/11/2013 9:28:27 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: redreno

In addition to filing a civil suit, the owner of the phone should find a way to bring a criminal charge of grand larceny against the cop.


15 posted on 05/11/2013 9:30:36 AM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: Venturer

Man publicly intoxicated, cops drunk on power... man dead.


16 posted on 05/11/2013 9:30:40 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: redreno

I always wonder why it takes so many cops to arrest one person. I can see needed a couple extra for a large or very unruly person, but nine for one person? It doesn’t make sense.


17 posted on 05/11/2013 9:39:04 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Venturer

One of these days one of the honest and law abiding citizens will put down their cell phones, and treat the offending criminal element, no matter how they are dressed, like they need to be treated. Whether with a firearm, a vehicle or a posse.

Cops in this country are heavy handed pieces of excrement. I have no use for them. They do very little in the way of solving or preventing crimes. The few cops I have had opportunity to speak with have been among the dumbest people I’ve spoken to

They serve no purpose other than to collect revenue for the state and protect those working for the state from the citizenry they abuse.

There are rarely any consequences for police abuses, yet let a citizen assert their rights and see what happens to them at the hands of these POS.


18 posted on 05/11/2013 9:40:19 AM PDT by Bshaw (,A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: redreno
little tin god syndrome because they have a badge and a firearm. Cops think they are the ones in jeopardy during events such as this so they gang up to take the trouble maker out so they, the cops, don't get hurt. When the trouble maker dies, the cop's attitude is; he shouldn't have been causing trouble so what he got is his own fault.
Analogous to a thief robbing a home and the owner comes home so the thief kills him and then says it's the owner's fault that he's dead because he shouldn't have come home.
19 posted on 05/11/2013 9:41:55 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: ClearCase_guy
"They basically told him they were either going to keep him at this house all night until they could find a judge to sign a search warrant or he could just turn over his phone," he said.

I would have surrendered the phone within 5 minutes of the request. Of course I would have used that 5 minutes to upload the video to icloud, facebook and twitter along with a situation update.

20 posted on 05/11/2013 9:43:22 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: jocon307
I hope the city controller is ready to start dusting off the checkbook.

Isn't this the same jurisdiction as ol' Ed Jagels and his child abuse witch hunts? If so, that "checkbook" has had lots of withdrawals already.

22 posted on 05/11/2013 9:44:54 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: redreno

Prayers up for the man’s family.

May justice be done.


23 posted on 05/11/2013 9:45:51 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Venturer

Geez. In 1974 we’d see a drunk guy, tell him to get in the car (if h was a danger to himself or others) and take him home. If he gave us any crap we’d kick him in the nuts, take him to jail where he’d sober up and let him go. I think we were Peace Officers then. No Tasers.


24 posted on 05/11/2013 9:46:36 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: drypowder
Cops think they are the ones in jeopardy during events such as this so they gang up to take the trouble maker out so they, the cops, don't get hurt.

Reading this and all the other cop hating threads that pollute Free Republic, that seems like a logical position to take.

25 posted on 05/11/2013 9:46:41 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

“Remember folks. Never talk to a pig. Always ask for a lawyer.”

My 6 and 9 year olds have been told to never voluntarily allow police access to our property, to never agree to entry to our home, to a search, and to never speak with them or answer their questions.

They are to ask for their parents and remain silent.

They have been drilled on how to interact with state agents.


26 posted on 05/11/2013 9:46:49 AM PDT by Bshaw (,A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: redreno

This is how they are now trained:
Act with maximum force first; disregard innocence or nonresistance of target; concoct story later; superiors will justify.


27 posted on 05/11/2013 9:47:00 AM PDT by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
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To: ClearCase_guy; MestaMachine; thouworm; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; dragonblustar; jersey117; ...
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I don't know how new this technique is, but apparently if you videotape the cops misbehaving, they can now take away your phone because it is "evidence" from crime scene. I wonder how often the cops end up "destroying evidence"?

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28 posted on 05/11/2013 9:47:38 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: redreno

Once every gun in the country is safely in the hands of the government, these guys with badges will become our loving protectors. Nothing to worry about.


29 posted on 05/11/2013 9:48:45 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Rusty0604

Watch the Wayer Town videos on youtube.


30 posted on 05/11/2013 9:49:06 AM PDT by sport
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To: jocon307

I hope the district attorney is dusting off the law books, and put those cops in prison for assault, manslaughter, or any other charge they can be convicted of. At least, the cops should never be allowed into law enforcement ever again.

They went totally nuts in this case. The badge has no such power to harm a citizen except in defense of another, and these cops went way beyond the limits of their authority.

Just my opinion, for what it is worth.


31 posted on 05/11/2013 9:49:12 AM PDT by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: eddie willers

“I bet you love listening to Hip-Hop all day.”

Can’t stand the genre. Nor can I stand feaux Freepers attempting to impersonate someone with a thought.


32 posted on 05/11/2013 9:49:29 AM PDT by Bshaw (,A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Rusty0604
Katrina proved already they would.

It won't be called "gun confiscation," it will be done for "public safety," which makes it OK.

33 posted on 05/11/2013 9:49:42 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: who knows what evil?
make the cop union/cop pension fund pay for it...
34 posted on 05/11/2013 9:50:48 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Bshaw

My mistake.

You just sound like every cop-hating, ‘snitches wind up in ditches’, CIA invented AIDS, Malcolm X wannabe that I was confused.


35 posted on 05/11/2013 9:52:46 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eyeamok
Maybe it is time for a new Cell Phone App that automatically uploads ALL VIDEO TAKEN to Cloud Storage before the Jack Booted thugs STEAL YOUR PROPERTY in an effort to cover up their MURDERS.

I'll go along with that.

36 posted on 05/11/2013 9:59:26 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: eyeamok

i know at least one app exists.


37 posted on 05/11/2013 10:01:42 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: txnativegop
I hope the district attorney is dusting off the law books, and put those cops in prison for assault, manslaughter, or any other charge they can be convicted of.

It SEEMS like a lot of DA's throw these cases. That's perfect, because the juries get the blame. In my area, a cop flipped out and gunned down a lady and got three years for manslaughter.

And in Maryland, off duty cops killed a man with Down Syndrome. After public outrage, they couldn't even get the grand jury to charge them. If they were "ham sandwiches" they'd be on trial for murder!

38 posted on 05/11/2013 10:05:05 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: eddie willers

YOU sound ike the guy who begs for an extensive cavity search from every cop, metermaid, TSAtwit or jackbooted thug you encounter.


39 posted on 05/11/2013 10:05:46 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

What has gone wrong with this country? I was not raised or taught to treat people in that fashion. So the guy was drunk, pick him up, take him to jail to sober up and release him the following morning.

Our country is developing an all-pervasive anger management problem at the very least.


40 posted on 05/11/2013 10:08:18 AM PDT by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Rusty0604

I don’t either but the first batch of them that gets wasted by a trained individual and the jack booted cowards will back down.


41 posted on 05/11/2013 10:14:51 AM PDT by GotGlock?
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To: txnativegop

Yea, maybe the police should have to watch Andy Griffin as part of their training. Even Barney Fife didn’t kill the town drunk.


42 posted on 05/11/2013 10:17:24 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

The country has changed and not in a good way. It is truly sad to witness.


43 posted on 05/11/2013 10:21:27 AM PDT by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: eddie willers
Do you suppose attitudes have changed over the past few years because law-abiding conservatives are finding that in their encounters with police, the things we'd heard about them from those who aren't law-abiding are starting to ring true?

My encounters with them have been when reporting a hit-and-run on a motorcyclist I witnessed while I was walking to vote, reporting another hit-and-run on my own parked car and while riding my bike home from a fast food restaurant. Each time there was nothing they could do about the crimes, but for some reason I was the one being questioned like I was the perp. Even when stopped on my bicycle they were demanding my social security number "to make sure you don't have any warrants" and making sure I "had no weapons for our safety". Hey, got nothing to hide, why worry, right?

Police don't prevent crime and it doesn't seem like they care to solve them either. Small towns might be different where people know each other and they are still Peace Officers, but in any big city in America, I'll steer clear, thanks. Well, they did at least notify me when my two stolen cars were found, I guess I can give them credit for that.

But it was made crystal clear when those two young cops were questioning me about my bike that they were fishing for anything they could find to charge me with. See, I was just a criminal that had yet to be discovered.

44 posted on 05/11/2013 10:23:16 AM PDT by Squeako (The radicals are the wolves. The moderates are the wolves in sheep's clothing.)
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To: redreno
An autopsy was slated for Thursday, but no results have been released.

Let me guess...suicide? Sudden aneurysm? "Inconclusive"?

When I was a kid, I was told I could trust the police and I did. Now, I am more than wary of them. Their expressions, even standing directing traffic or at a work site, emanate hostility. The "us vs. them" attitude is so apparent. And then there are the stories gathered here, which are too many to ignore.
45 posted on 05/11/2013 10:24:57 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: Venturer

” Sorry folks—pack syndrome in full action here./”

For sure.


46 posted on 05/11/2013 10:26:27 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: txnativegop
What has gone wrong with this country? I was not raised or taught to treat people in that fashion.

I usually trace it to Roe vs Wade. But, it might go further back than that.

Tomorrow, we are going to be treated to countless stories of "heroic" mothers making the "sacrifice" of spending Mother's Day @ war while their infant children grow up motherless. And we accept this.

So, I think we're seeing the fruits of 100 years of the state's war on the family and faith.

47 posted on 05/11/2013 10:31:20 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

You make an excellent point.
I have argued that in the years to come, the Roe decision will be viewed as one of the worst, if not the single worst, decision ever delivered by the US Supreme Court.


48 posted on 05/11/2013 10:33:45 AM PDT by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Squeako

Did you give them your SS# to avoid being beaten and arrested?


49 posted on 05/11/2013 10:34:26 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Safetgiver

Can’t do that today, Lawyers would lose too much money on drunk driving cases and Madd Mothers would crap all over themselves.


50 posted on 05/11/2013 10:37:50 AM PDT by Venturer
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