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The Bogus Obama Administration "Low-Level" Employees Argument
Townhall.com ^ | May 15, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 05/15/2013 4:10:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

Throughout Barack Obama's tenure as President of the United States and throughout every major scandal during that time period, nobody important has known anything important about anything...important. Every time a new scandal breaks, the White House comment is "we found out about this through news reports," "we need to wait for all the facts," and of course, "this was just a few low-level employees in X-state or X-city, nobody in Washington was involved."

 Operation Fast and Furious

After it was discovered in early 2011 the Department of Justice [DOJ] had knowingly and willingly trafficked 2500 semi-automatic Ak-47 style rifles, or what President Obama would call "military grade assault rifles," to Mexican drug cartels, DOJ officials in Washington D.C. immediately blamed a "few low-level, rogue ATF agents working in Phoenix." It turned out, not only did senior DOJ officials know about Fast and Furious from the beginning, which started in September 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder received regular memos about the operation. 

Benghazi

In the aftermath of the 9/11 Benghazi terror attack, the entire Obama administration, including former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, President Obama, Press Secretary Jay Carney and UN Ambassador Susan Rice, all blamed a rogue and irrelevant YouTube video for the violence. After investigation by the House Oversight Committee, a handful of investigative press reports and whistleblower testimony from acting Libyan Ambassador Greg Hicks last week, we now know Clinton knew the 9/11 attack was in fact a terrorist attack on the day it happened.

"At 2 a.m. Secretary of State Clinton called me along with her senior staff were all on the phone and she asked me what was going on and I briefed her on developments. Most of the conversation was about the search for Ambassador Stevens. It was also about what we were going to do with our personnel in Benghazi and I told her that we would need to evacuate," Hicks said. "The only report that our mission made through every channel was that there had been an attack."

Now that the White House and Clinton have been caught in their lie about a YouTube video, they're blaming the "intelligence community" for bad information.

In addition, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton claimed not to know anything about requests for more security at the consulate in Benghazi. Those requests, of course, were handled by the people below her.

“The specific security requests pertaining to Benghazi, you know were handled by the security professionals in the department,” Clinton told Congress in January. “I didn’t see those requests, they didn’t come to me, I didn’t approve them, I didn’t deny them.”

It turns out, Clinton did in fact receive at least one cable requesting more security.

The House report suggests that Clinton received and signed a request for more security from Gene Cretz, who preceded Christopher Stevens as ambassador to Libya.

“On April 19, 2012, the response cable from the Department of State to Embassy Tripoli, bearing Secretary Clinton’s signature, acknowledges Ambassador Cretz’s request for additional security but instead articulates a plan to scale back security assets for the U.S. Mission in Libya, including the Benghazi Mission,” the House report says.


IRS Targeting Tea Party Groups

As the IRS scandal continues to unfold, so does the story of IRS officials. Initially when this story broke, senior IRS officials denied Washington D.C. had anything to do with the specific and inappropriate targeting of tea party and conservative groups. We were told this was the work a few "low-level" IRS agents working in Cincinnati. Turns out, that isn't true. Senior IRS officials in Washington D.C. knew about, and participated in, the targeting of conservative groups as early as 2011. So much for those "low-level" employees.

We Get Our Information From the News

Another argument repeatedly used by senior Obama administration officials when taking cover in the wake of scandal is, "We only found out about this through news reports."Operation Fast and Furious

President Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano all claimed they found out about Operation Fast and Furious through "news reports."

IRS Targeting Tea Party Groups

Yesterday during a joint press conference with Prime Minister David Cameron, President Obama said, "I first learned about it from the same news reports I think most people learned about this. I think it was on Friday."

Department of Justice Secretly Monitoring the Personal Phones of AP Reporters and Editors

Asked about when exactly the White House knew of the Department of Justice secretly monitoring the personal phones of Associated Press reporters and editors, Press Secretary Jay Carney said the administration found out through "press reports."

“Other than press reports, we have no knowledge of any attempt by the Justice Department to seek phone records of the AP,” he said. “We are not involved in decisions made in connection with criminal investigations, as those matters are handled independently by the Justice Department. Any questions about an ongoing criminal investigation should be directed to the Department of Justice.”

President Obama and his administration have claimed not to know anything about Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal or DOJ targeting the private phones of reporters and editors, but they sure know a whole lot about about openly gay NBA player Jason Collins, feminist activist Sandra Fluke, March Madness, Golf, Whitney Houston, Justin Timberlake, Rush Limbaugh and others.

This is the typical Obama administration scandal playbook: question the "facts," blame those at the bottom, cite press reports for information and repeatedly deny any responsibility.

 


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beghazi; bhofascism; criminalpresident; democrats; fastandfurious; gettherope; govtabuse; impeachnow; irs; loislerner; obama; teapartygroups; tyranny

1 posted on 05/15/2013 4:10:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

i twas low level employees at enron too, but we held the CEO responsible....


2 posted on 05/15/2013 4:24:36 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Kaslin

The buck never got here.


3 posted on 05/15/2013 4:31:42 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Kaslin
Linky Thing: Jon Stewart Mocks Bambi

The wheels are falling off, libs have started ridiculing Barry

4 posted on 05/15/2013 4:33:31 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: Kaslin

The LowLevel excuse cannot be valid. Top manager always knew or should have known. The military will not allow the defense that the senior officer did not know....knew or should have known! GUILTY


5 posted on 05/15/2013 4:35:45 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama abandoned the defenders in Benghazi - They died; he lied.)
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To: Kaslin

Guess this means that the Executive branch is run by low level employees and not elected/appointed officials.


6 posted on 05/15/2013 4:36:51 AM PDT by CreviceTool ("Washington gridlock is pretty much Rush Limbaugh's fault")
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To: Kaslin
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Clearly this administration is nowhere near advanced enough to pull of a scandal of this magnitude. Its obvious they had outside help and it could have only been aliens.

Can there be any other answer?

I think not.
7 posted on 05/15/2013 4:38:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Rapscallion

Same conclusion applies to Obama... knew or should have known. Conclusion: GUILTY


8 posted on 05/15/2013 4:38:55 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama abandoned the defenders in Benghazi - They died; he lied.)
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To: Kaslin

Printed from: Boston Herald (http://bostonherald.com)

Obama knee-deep in Nixon-esque scandal

Tuesday, May 14, 2013
Author(s):
Joe Battenfeld

President Obama’s second-term campaign slogan was “Forward,” but instead we’ve got cover-ups, congressional investigations and the government persecution of political opponents and reporters.

That sounds like “backward” to me. All the way to, say, 1972.

Who would have guessed that just a few months into his second term, President Obama would be compared to Tricky Dick. And by a liberal Massachusetts Democrat — U.S. Rep. Michael Capuano.

Republicans could not even have scripted this one. The agency most hated by voters, the Internal Revenue Service, admits to going on a Nixonian witch hunt against Tea Party and conservative groups during the re-election campaign.

This is a story even the most partisan Massachusetts liberal cannot defend. It’s so bad that even Ed Markey is calling for heads to roll.

http://bostonherald.com/print/news_opinion/columnists/joe_battenfeld/2013/05/obama_knee_deep_in_nixon_esque_scandal


9 posted on 05/15/2013 4:40:31 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Kaslin

“O” outsourced this administration to the MSM - RIGHT FROM THE START.

The MSM GOT him into office, so let THEM run the administration.

It’s the undeniable impression we’ve had from the start. It’s the place the MSM has had a crying need to occupy for donkey’s years. It’s what the DNC wanted for their puppet prince and at last accomplished.

THIS is what the Liberal program always was and the abject folly and insanity of such an arrangement is staring the whole world in the face.

THIS is why vetting matters and why the MSM must NEVER be familiar with ANY President!

Not a Democratic President or a Republican President. Not EVER!!

Government and leadership ARE necessary and cannot be handed off to amateurs or dilatants.

Rabble and mobs CANNOT and MUST NOT EVER be permitted to take the helm. PERIOD. The founding fathers knew this instinctively

Of course –if it’s NOT asking TOO much, it would be immensely preferable if these ‘leaders’ could be patriotic to America and demonstrate SOME basic regard for American traditions and American citizens.


10 posted on 05/15/2013 4:42:36 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: cripplecreek

Maybe they saw a video. Yes, that is it. It was a video. That got them started.


11 posted on 05/15/2013 4:43:50 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: Rapscallion

It is nothing but a lame excuse, which is typical of the left


12 posted on 05/15/2013 4:44:48 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
Low level employees do stupid things like photo their buns on the Xerox machine.

Designated IRS agents are ORDERED to "select" certain groups for audits. There isn't any other way to do it.

Why is Holder, Obama's minion, the investigator??

13 posted on 05/15/2013 5:03:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
Oh yeah, the word is now out that senators including Chuckie Schumer sent letters to the IRS saying "you better" investigate the Tea Party groups. Matter of fact one letter sent out by him was signed by 6 other senators.

The solution to this problem, GET CONTROL OF THE SENATE in the next election cycle. If it keeps up like this we just might.

14 posted on 05/15/2013 5:11:59 AM PDT by mware
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To: Kaslin

Why doesn’t someone ask the most obvious question:

Mr President/Director/AG, you have the highest security clearance in the land. Are you actually claiming that you don’t have access to and/or haven’t received information on this topic through official channels, usually long before the press gets a fraction of that information?


15 posted on 05/15/2013 5:12:40 AM PDT by relictele (A place dedicated to economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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To: mware
If so....I'd say that's sweet....

The elections now go back to demographics and/or that 47%. Obama actually beat the intention of the Electoral College by targeting certain high population regions within a state.

I think the results in Pennsylvania is a good example. It was Philly, Philly, Philly...and a little bit more.

16 posted on 05/15/2013 5:22:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

Obama’s excuse that the job is over his head and he has no idea what is going on is whole lot better than the truth - that we have an out of control petty tyrant.


17 posted on 05/15/2013 5:24:34 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Kaslin

This is exactly what the Vietnamese claimed about Uncle Ho. It was the cadre who murdered people. Uncle Ho didn’t know a thing about it.


18 posted on 05/15/2013 5:38:52 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: tx_eggman
The wheels are falling off, libs have started ridiculing Barry

Naw, they are just trying to wipe Obama's dung from their tongue. Once the taste is gone, they'll be back for more.

19 posted on 05/15/2013 5:39:34 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Kaslin

It is not clear in the headline whether the administration is bogus or the argument is bogus, but I will assume both.


20 posted on 05/15/2013 5:39:57 AM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: Kaslin


"I know nothing, I am not here - I did not even get up this morning!"

21 posted on 05/15/2013 5:40:23 AM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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To: cripplecreek

Can there be any other answer?

I think not.
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Morlocks, yeah, that’s the ticket.


22 posted on 05/15/2013 7:57:58 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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