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The IRS to "enforce" ObamaCare?
May 15, 2013 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/15/2013 3:10:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Give me a break! Repeal this criminal monstrosity! NOW!!

Obviously, the government is waaaay too big to control. Cut it back. Drastically (per the U.S, Constitution)!!


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; FReeper Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; corruption; deathpanels; governmentabuse; impeachnow; implausibledenial; irs; obamacare; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; zerocare

1 posted on 05/15/2013 3:10:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Obamacare.

The Transformation Gate


2 posted on 05/15/2013 3:12:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jim Robinson
Oh, we ain't seen nuthin' yet, Jim. It's the IRS that will fine Americans who don't buy the right insurance. (Oh, excuse me Justice Roberts, that fine is really a "tax.") To enforce the law they are building the mother of all databases with our information from all over the government.

This is why Obama had to be defeated last year. Now, it's going to be really, really bad.

3 posted on 05/15/2013 3:13:35 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Jim Robinson

The House GOP can defund ObamaCare enforcement right now by failing to appropriate the money.


4 posted on 05/15/2013 3:16:57 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt
The House GOP can defund ObamaCare enforcement right now by failing to appropriate the money.

True, they can kill it.

The only way the House can kill Obamacare is if Boehner is replaced by someone with a Warrior mindset.

5 posted on 05/15/2013 3:19:28 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Jim Robinson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs


6 posted on 05/15/2013 3:20:47 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Jim Robinson

If you’re getting subsidized insurance there going to want to know if you get a raise,overtime,get married,move to a different state. They’re going to want continuous updates on your activities. They want our freedom.


7 posted on 05/15/2013 3:25:45 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: .45 Long Colt

Indeed. The house GOP could have stopped Obama in 2010 and did not. They did however give him all the money he wanted to do his damage. Why people refuse to hold them accountable I will never know. Instead, like raped and beaten wives, they defend their abusers.


8 posted on 05/15/2013 3:28:19 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: sand88

Boehner knows what he’s doing. That’s my opinion.


9 posted on 05/15/2013 3:29:02 PM PDT by tupac (the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe)
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To: .45 Long Colt

I was under the impression the Democrats had the funding for ACA written into the law at the time they passed it. They apparently anticipated the potential of a movement to stop the funding, and thus it was funded in an unusual, perhaps sleight-of-hand legislative move at the time it was passed.

I’m going by memory here, and would appreciate correction, or clarification by any FReeper(s) if I’m in error.


10 posted on 05/15/2013 3:29:29 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Proud contributer to the Free Republic Q-2 Freepathon.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Remembering all the jokes about using the USPS to manage America's health care, I'd like to say this about that ~ each and every politician who voted for the ObamaKKKare bill is certifiably mentally ill.

They all knew IRS would be in charge of too many critical components to be believed.

It is simply not possible to put what amounts to an armed bill collection agency in charge of any aspect of medical care.

Sure, it's true that in every large corporation the fellow who heads up collections sits right there with the fellows who spend the money when they meet with the board, but that collections unit leider does not tell operating folks how to set prices nor how to build their products. If they did they'd soon be out of business.

11 posted on 05/15/2013 3:32:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jim Robinson
we are truly screwed...
12 posted on 05/15/2013 3:38:11 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: rockinqsranch
Yeah, that's the basic idea, but every new Congress is not bound by the lechery and stupidity of the previous Congress, so a funding mechanism set up in year X is just another source of revenue for the General Accounts in year y or z.The Obamaistas imagined they could deal the deck so the Republicans would never get a chance to vote on funding, but that entailed building an elaborate scaffolding of FEES and PENALTIES.

The money would come into HHS on one side and they could allocate it to health insurance premiums on the other side!

Then Roberts got a ruling past the Supreme Court that said the whole thing was a tax.

In doing that Roberts forced all the supplemental FEES and PENALTIES to be considred as TAXES and all TAXES go to the general fund ~ leaving nothing for HHS to pass around.

Even now HHS is running out of funds to pay for their state and/or federal insurance exchanges!

Once Boehner (or his successor) stands firm against continuing resolutions (that continue paying prior obligations without debate of the utility of those obligations) the entire ObamaKKKare infrastructure will GO BROKE!

For many of us ~ particularly those of us who understand what a real threat it is to your health care to have Congress standing between you and the doctors ~ the health and wellbeing of every American is in danger when Congress ~ whether run by Republicans or Democrats ~ is in a position to cut off your health care simply by engaging in a legislative funding battle. That 15 minute wait to get taken to a cardiac unit could turn into a 15 month wait, and the whole thing becomes a Death Panel.

13 posted on 05/15/2013 3:42:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jim Robinson

It was supposed to be a tax collection agency. It rapidly became a coercive arm of a fascist government.

It has the power to render an individual penniless. It has usurped the power to plow a business into the dirt. It has taken upon itself the power to hound and harass citizens, normally presumed innocent in civilized countries, forcing them to prove what can not be proved.


14 posted on 05/15/2013 3:42:09 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: tupac

That’s the problem. What he is doing is working for the Dem/Communists of his free will.


15 posted on 05/15/2013 3:43:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Jim Robinson
"The IRS to "enforce" ObamaCare?

.... Don't worry, they got the two people involved in the so called "IRS Scandal." Once again President Obama saved us from harm .... We're all safe now. There's nothing to worry about any more.

16 posted on 05/15/2013 3:45:17 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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17 posted on 05/15/2013 3:50:56 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: .45 Long Colt; sand88; tupac; y'all




Trey Gowdy for Speaker!
or another Rock Solid Conservative!

18 posted on 05/15/2013 3:55:53 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Jim Robinson

When Obamacare’s individual mandate takes effect in 2014, all Americans who file income tax returns must complete an additional IRS tax form... The new form will require disclosure of a taxpayer’s personal identifying health information in order to determine compliance with the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate.

As confirmed by IRS testimony to the tax-writing House Committee on Ways and Means, “taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and/or making a payment”.

...Simply put, there is no way for the IRS to enforce Obamacare’s individual mandate without such an invasive reporting scheme... As a service to the public, Americans for Tax Reform has released a projected version of this tax form to help families and tax specialists prepare for this additional filing requirement. Taxpayers may view the projected IRS form at www.ObamacareTaxForm.com. On the form, lines 3-4 show where taxpayers will disclose their personal health ID information.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Obamacare isn’t about health care. It’s about control over you and I.

Your health care data will be used to punish you. It will be used against you. It will be leaked into the public record if you oppose the government. Government-run health care is tyrannical.

Link: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-irs-scandal-and-obamacare-yes-your.html


19 posted on 05/15/2013 3:56:12 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Jim Robinson
Americans for Tax Reform projected IRS form for Obamacare compliance:
20 posted on 05/15/2013 3:57:13 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Jim Robinson

It won’t be repealed. There are too many new employees. The votes for putting all those bureaucrats, even brand new ones who have not seen their desks yet, are not more than half a dozen. Politicians of either party will not put government workers out of work.


21 posted on 05/15/2013 3:57:29 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: .45 Long Colt

And pigs can fly. Obamacare is a huge benefit for REPUBLICANS, for all politicians. Now they have a wonderful new tool for sucking up votes. When obamacare starts really hurting people the pols make hay by tweaking the system for this group or that, by saving someone’s grandpa or child from being cut off, by getting certain individuals or groups jumped in line, etc, The British have shown the way. conservatives and liberals rail and wail about how bad it is but perish the thought that it might be eliminated. It only takes a dozen years before the people clutch it to their bosoms and would storm Washington if they think anyone might reduce their imagined benefits. The last chance to kill it was with the late continuing resolution on which the Republicans, with the willing cooperation of the Tea Party reps, forthrightly PUNTED.


22 posted on 05/15/2013 4:04:09 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost
Clearly the IRS must be abolished

What us rubes out here in the sticks don't realize is that the GOP in DC will not do a damn thing about abolishing the IRS, because they love the cash that agency extorts from citizens just as much as the communist democrats do.

This is the one chance the GOP has to crush the IRS.

It will take a pass.

23 posted on 05/15/2013 4:04:56 PM PDT by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: sand88

The current House Weeper can be replaced with someone who isn’t in Congress. He should be kicked to the curb yesterday. Colonel West for Speaker!


24 posted on 05/15/2013 4:06:46 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: muawiyah
Once Boehner (or his successor) stands firm

Is that a joke?

25 posted on 05/15/2013 4:07:20 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: tupac
Boehner knows what he’s doing. That’s my opinion.

Doing things in a good day?

Yyour cryptic response is what is expected from GOP-e types.

The simple fact is that if Boehner truly cared about Liberty and our Constitution, he would put up a fight.

Instead, these crybaby enjoys playing golf with the one.

Boehner is contemptible weak man. He does not deserve our respect.

26 posted on 05/15/2013 4:09:09 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Rome2000

We can’t depend on the GOP to do anything.

Looks like PATRIOTS and TEA PARTIERS will have to take matters into their own hands.

If they want a war, let’s give it to them.


27 posted on 05/15/2013 4:10:05 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost
the new form...

1)How much did you make? $______

2)Send it in.

28 posted on 05/15/2013 4:10:38 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Rome2000

29 posted on 05/15/2013 4:12:30 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: colorado tanker
To enforce the law they are building the mother of all databases with our information from all over the government.

...and yet, we can't keep track of people entering and leaving our country. Makes you wonder doesn't it.

30 posted on 05/15/2013 4:23:07 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: colorado tanker
It's the IRS that will fine Americans who don't buy the right insurance

One of my customers is a young "Occupy" type libtard...

Another customer and I were discussing the IRS scandal and how it will impact everybody...and the fallout of Obamacare IRS "tax" if you don't have insurance

The Libtard immediately said... it didn't affect him...

I laughed out loud.. and asked him if he was an citizen and over 26?...yup !

He said he didn't have to buy medical insurance..

I informed him he will will have his Obamacare "penalty" deducted from his yearly tax refund...that's why he hired 14,000 IRS agents to administer Obamacare..

Needless to say he was incredulous...

31 posted on 05/15/2013 4:36:56 PM PDT by Popman (Godlessness is always the first step to the concentration camp.)
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To: YankeeReb

The IRS computer is already overtaxed, so to speak. They often claim data mismatches that are easily explained. When they wade into health care the mistakes will be ridiculous - and the burden will be on citizens to prove whey they screw up.


32 posted on 05/15/2013 4:46:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Popman

Those lefty morons have no idea what their Messiah has done to them.


33 posted on 05/15/2013 4:54:45 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
...Just Google "Liverpool Pathway Controversy" to see how it is done in the UK....

...and don't expect to get a cast for a broken arm if you have been smoking...like this guy...

...and they refused to give him disability payments as "you can still clean out toilets with that twisted arm...should be good to get round the bend"

34 posted on 05/15/2013 5:26:14 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Dear IRS, NO!


35 posted on 05/15/2013 5:52:01 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Blackirish
if you get a raise,overtime,get married,move to a different state. They’re going to want continuous updates on your activities

Don't they have that now, at least for those of us who file tax returns.

36 posted on 05/15/2013 5:54:11 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: sand88

That is your opinion. Mine is that he’s doing just fine .


37 posted on 05/15/2013 6:25:52 PM PDT by tupac (the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe)
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To: tupac
That is your opinion. Mine is that he’s doing just fine .

LOL. thanks for the laugh. Yea, he is indeed doing fine if you agree with his anti-Tea Party positions and his support of big government.

Boehner's actual record is one of being against limited government. That is a fact that cannot be disputed. He only gives lip-service as a Conservative.

Boehner will certainly go down in history as a wimpy, pro-statist speaker.

How exactly is Boehner advancing the cause of Liberty?

Do you support his antagonism towards the Tea Party?

38 posted on 05/15/2013 7:18:20 PM PDT by sand88
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To: Jim Robinson
All the more reason why we need to ditch Title 26, the Internal Revenue Code, and replace it with this:


39 posted on 05/15/2013 7:26:31 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate your response.


40 posted on 05/15/2013 7:31:31 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Proud contributer to the Free Republic Q-2 Freepathon.)
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To: Jim Robinson

right! this administration can’t even keep track of the government as it is right now, right? They know nuthink!


41 posted on 05/15/2013 7:36:56 PM PDT by uncitizen (Drip drip drip)
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To: arthurus
Either Boehner does so, or his successor most certainly will do so.

READ LESS CRITICALLY ~ have a good laugh at the expense of the nobles.

42 posted on 05/15/2013 7:38:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sand88

I respect your opinions.


43 posted on 05/16/2013 3:31:45 AM PDT by tupac (the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe)
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