Skip to comments.The IRS to "enforce" ObamaCare?
Posted on 05/15/2013 3:10:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Give me a break! Repeal this criminal monstrosity! NOW!!
Obviously, the government is waaaay too big to control. Cut it back. Drastically (per the U.S, Constitution)!!
The Transformation Gate
This is why Obama had to be defeated last year. Now, it's going to be really, really bad.
The House GOP can defund ObamaCare enforcement right now by failing to appropriate the money.
True, they can kill it.
The only way the House can kill Obamacare is if Boehner is replaced by someone with a Warrior mindset.
If you’re getting subsidized insurance there going to want to know if you get a raise,overtime,get married,move to a different state. They’re going to want continuous updates on your activities. They want our freedom.
Indeed. The house GOP could have stopped Obama in 2010 and did not. They did however give him all the money he wanted to do his damage. Why people refuse to hold them accountable I will never know. Instead, like raped and beaten wives, they defend their abusers.
Boehner knows what he’s doing. That’s my opinion.
I was under the impression the Democrats had the funding for ACA written into the law at the time they passed it. They apparently anticipated the potential of a movement to stop the funding, and thus it was funded in an unusual, perhaps sleight-of-hand legislative move at the time it was passed.
I’m going by memory here, and would appreciate correction, or clarification by any FReeper(s) if I’m in error.
They all knew IRS would be in charge of too many critical components to be believed.
It is simply not possible to put what amounts to an armed bill collection agency in charge of any aspect of medical care.
Sure, it's true that in every large corporation the fellow who heads up collections sits right there with the fellows who spend the money when they meet with the board, but that collections unit leider does not tell operating folks how to set prices nor how to build their products. If they did they'd soon be out of business.
The money would come into HHS on one side and they could allocate it to health insurance premiums on the other side!
Then Roberts got a ruling past the Supreme Court that said the whole thing was a tax.
In doing that Roberts forced all the supplemental FEES and PENALTIES to be considred as TAXES and all TAXES go to the general fund ~ leaving nothing for HHS to pass around.
Even now HHS is running out of funds to pay for their state and/or federal insurance exchanges!
Once Boehner (or his successor) stands firm against continuing resolutions (that continue paying prior obligations without debate of the utility of those obligations) the entire ObamaKKKare infrastructure will GO BROKE!
For many of us ~ particularly those of us who understand what a real threat it is to your health care to have Congress standing between you and the doctors ~ the health and wellbeing of every American is in danger when Congress ~ whether run by Republicans or Democrats ~ is in a position to cut off your health care simply by engaging in a legislative funding battle. That 15 minute wait to get taken to a cardiac unit could turn into a 15 month wait, and the whole thing becomes a Death Panel.
It was supposed to be a tax collection agency. It rapidly became a coercive arm of a fascist government.
It has the power to render an individual penniless. It has usurped the power to plow a business into the dirt. It has taken upon itself the power to hound and harass citizens, normally presumed innocent in civilized countries, forcing them to prove what can not be proved.
That’s the problem. What he is doing is working for the Dem/Communists of his free will.
.... Don't worry, they got the two people involved in the so called "IRS Scandal." Once again President Obama saved us from harm .... We're all safe now. There's nothing to worry about any more.
When Obamacares individual mandate takes effect in 2014, all Americans who file income tax returns must complete an additional IRS tax form... The new form will require disclosure of a taxpayers personal identifying health information in order to determine compliance with the Affordable Care Acts individual mandate.
As confirmed by IRS testimony to the tax-writing House Committee on Ways and Means, taxpayers will file their tax returns reporting their health insurance coverage, and/or making a payment.
...Simply put, there is no way for the IRS to enforce Obamacares individual mandate without such an invasive reporting scheme... As a service to the public, Americans for Tax Reform has released a projected version of this tax form to help families and tax specialists prepare for this additional filing requirement. Taxpayers may view the projected IRS form at www.ObamacareTaxForm.com. On the form, lines 3-4 show where taxpayers will disclose their personal health ID information.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Obamacare isn’t about health care. It’s about control over you and I.
Your health care data will be used to punish you. It will be used against you. It will be leaked into the public record if you oppose the government. Government-run health care is tyrannical.
It won’t be repealed. There are too many new employees. The votes for putting all those bureaucrats, even brand new ones who have not seen their desks yet, are not more than half a dozen. Politicians of either party will not put government workers out of work.
And pigs can fly. Obamacare is a huge benefit for REPUBLICANS, for all politicians. Now they have a wonderful new tool for sucking up votes. When obamacare starts really hurting people the pols make hay by tweaking the system for this group or that, by saving someone’s grandpa or child from being cut off, by getting certain individuals or groups jumped in line, etc, The British have shown the way. conservatives and liberals rail and wail about how bad it is but perish the thought that it might be eliminated. It only takes a dozen years before the people clutch it to their bosoms and would storm Washington if they think anyone might reduce their imagined benefits. The last chance to kill it was with the late continuing resolution on which the Republicans, with the willing cooperation of the Tea Party reps, forthrightly PUNTED.
What us rubes out here in the sticks don't realize is that the GOP in DC will not do a damn thing about abolishing the IRS, because they love the cash that agency extorts from citizens just as much as the communist democrats do.
This is the one chance the GOP has to crush the IRS.
It will take a pass.
The current House Weeper can be replaced with someone who isn’t in Congress. He should be kicked to the curb yesterday. Colonel West for Speaker!
Is that a joke?
Doing things in a good day?
Yyour cryptic response is what is expected from GOP-e types.
The simple fact is that if Boehner truly cared about Liberty and our Constitution, he would put up a fight.
Instead, these crybaby enjoys playing golf with the one.
Boehner is contemptible weak man. He does not deserve our respect.
We can’t depend on the GOP to do anything.
Looks like PATRIOTS and TEA PARTIERS will have to take matters into their own hands.
If they want a war, let’s give it to them.
1)How much did you make? $______
2)Send it in.
...and yet, we can't keep track of people entering and leaving our country. Makes you wonder doesn't it.
One of my customers is a young "Occupy" type libtard...
Another customer and I were discussing the IRS scandal and how it will impact everybody...and the fallout of Obamacare IRS "tax" if you don't have insurance
The Libtard immediately said... it didn't affect him...
I laughed out loud.. and asked him if he was an citizen and over 26?...yup !
He said he didn't have to buy medical insurance..
I informed him he will will have his Obamacare "penalty" deducted from his yearly tax refund...that's why he hired 14,000 IRS agents to administer Obamacare..
Needless to say he was incredulous...
The IRS computer is already overtaxed, so to speak. They often claim data mismatches that are easily explained. When they wade into health care the mistakes will be ridiculous - and the burden will be on citizens to prove whey they screw up.
Those lefty morons have no idea what their Messiah has done to them.
...and don't expect to get a cast for a broken arm if you have been smoking...like this guy...
...and they refused to give him disability payments as "you can still clean out toilets with that twisted arm...should be good to get round the bend"
Dear IRS, NO!
Don't they have that now, at least for those of us who file tax returns.
That is your opinion. Mine is that he’s doing just fine .
LOL. thanks for the laugh. Yea, he is indeed doing fine if you agree with his anti-Tea Party positions and his support of big government.
Boehner's actual record is one of being against limited government. That is a fact that cannot be disputed. He only gives lip-service as a Conservative.
Boehner will certainly go down in history as a wimpy, pro-statist speaker.
How exactly is Boehner advancing the cause of Liberty?
Do you support his antagonism towards the Tea Party?
Thanks for the clarification. Appreciate your response.
right! this administration can’t even keep track of the government as it is right now, right? They know nuthink!
READ LESS CRITICALLY ~ have a good laugh at the expense of the nobles.
I respect your opinions.