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Mayor Bloomberg: Skip College and Become Plumbers
Townhall ^ | 05/18/2013 | Heather Ginsberg

Posted on 05/19/2013 6:23:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Conserev1

Oh and one more year as a Journeyman Before you can become a Master Plumber to Be able to hang a shingle out.


41 posted on 05/19/2013 7:46:30 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: MamaTexan
BTW - how much would someone have to pay you to lie down in 6" of raw sewage for 9 straight hours in order to repair a ruptured sewer line under a dialysis clinic?

If the goal of some of you on this thread was to convince people how great it is to be a plumber, you just defeated it.
42 posted on 05/19/2013 7:49:03 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: BobL


43 posted on 05/19/2013 7:51:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, pick a career where you won’t ever need to use a bloomberg terminal.


44 posted on 05/19/2013 7:51:09 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: catnipman

45 posted on 05/19/2013 7:52:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Conserev1
I am a plumber and ahoy there Bloomy! I do not know about NY but in AR it take 4years OJT with 4years VO Tech to become a Plumber.

[grin] I'll have to take your word for the calculations. Like I said, I'm not the plumber.

I do know it took hubby about 8 years to get his Masters....and he STILL complains how the guys who are taking their Master's now only have to pass a 'dumbed down' version of what he had to deal with.

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(sigh) I'll take a guy who can WORK on something over one who can only draw a picture of it any day....but maybe I'm just prejudiced! LOL!

46 posted on 05/19/2013 7:55:43 AM PDT by MamaTexan (A government that will not defend it's military will also not bother to protect its People.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“It’s a simple fact that some people are smarter than others and that more physical jobs in general require far less education than others.”

So you’re implying education and smart are synonymous ?


47 posted on 05/19/2013 7:56:32 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (President Obma; The Slumlord of the Rentseekers)
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To: SeekAndFind
“The only schools that cost $40,000 or $50,000 like the mayor said are elite schools”.

This is BS. The college I went to doesn't have anywhere near the cache of Harvard and they want $58K per year. There are lots of 2nd tier schools trying to charge that much. They are not even remotely worth the money.

48 posted on 05/19/2013 7:59:23 AM PDT by Poison Pill (Take your silver lining and SHOVE IT!)
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To: newguy357
If the goal of some of you on this thread was to convince people how great it is to be a plumber, you just defeated it.

Anyone thinking about being a plumber (or even getting married to one), they need to get over the 'ewww!' factor pretty quick!

We hadn't been married for six months yet when I flatly FORBADE my husband to talk about work at the dinner table....

and I'm not normally even the insistent type!

LOL!

49 posted on 05/19/2013 7:59:50 AM PDT by MamaTexan (A government that will not defend it's military will also not bother to protect its People.)
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To: MamaTexan

“Hubby’s a plumber Mr. Bloombutt, and I’ve seen him calculate fall and do volume/mass calculations without even using so much as piece of paper! Can YOU do calculus equations in YOUR head, Mr. Mayor?”

I’m with you. Try laying out drain line for an underslab application (here in Texas) that has to make bends, slope at a minimum of 1/4” per foot and then tie into an existing line connection. All with 4” PVC. Also trying cutting rafters with bird-mouth cuts. Done both and it’s MUCH, MUCH, easier for me mentally to spend to a day at my office job than doing the above work - I was literally drained after doing that. I have nothing but respect for plumbers and framers who have to do much harder jobs than me (like trying to run drain line between floors in a house and figuring out how to make rafter cuts on some really whacked out roof designs).


50 posted on 05/19/2013 8:02:30 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: cripplecreek
Thanks for that link; what a thoughtful and respectful perspective he presents.

But even though I was on the fence about it before, I'm definitely not going to castrating lambs any time soon....:-)

51 posted on 05/19/2013 8:05:18 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge

I think Rowe started out as a fairly liberal guy but saw too much destruction at the hands of regulatory agencies to ignore.


52 posted on 05/19/2013 8:08:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Well, my opinion of him just rose another few notches.

A liberal smart and willing enough to escape the echo chamber is a rare bird indeed.

53 posted on 05/19/2013 8:13:33 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: MamaTexan

True. The below average should go to college and major in Sociology and Womyn’s Studies. Average and above should learn a trade before they graduate from high school.


54 posted on 05/19/2013 8:18:50 AM PDT by stop_fascism (Free Nakoula)
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To: ViLaLuz

“The world needs ditch diggers too.” Judge Smails


55 posted on 05/19/2013 8:22:24 AM PDT by freefdny
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To: Savage Beast

Why waste four years. You can drink beer and have hook-up sex without wasting $40,000 a year.

One of the worst idea’s American’s have ever had is that everyone should go to college.


56 posted on 05/19/2013 8:23:33 AM PDT by stop_fascism (Free Nakoula)
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To: BobL
I have nothing but respect for plumbers and framers who have to do much harder jobs than me (like trying to run drain line between floors in a house and figuring out how to make rafter cuts on some really whacked out roof designs).

LOL! Hubby just LOVES the add ons that get slapped on to a house....big /S

He calls them 'brother-in-law' additions, as in "Well, my brother-in-law said he knew a guy who could build it, so they came over one weekend......"

Or the commercial properties that have a maintenance man work on the plumbing all day, but HE couldn't fix it so he calls hubby....at midnight!

Hubby always yanks them around about it too, asking if their builder was on crack or telling property management companies he charges MORE to fix their 'fixes', but since he is so very good at what he does and never charges more than a reasonable price, they still love him anyway.

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A big Texas SALUTE! to all proud tradesmen.....everywhere!

57 posted on 05/19/2013 8:28:49 AM PDT by MamaTexan (A government that will not defend it's military will also not bother to protect its People.)
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To: MamaTexan

Yea it used to be 5 years I had to go 5 years.


58 posted on 05/19/2013 8:34:53 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: stop_fascism
Average and above should learn a trade before they graduate from high school.

Which is the way it was done before the government started regulating us all to death.

Many of hubby's fellow plumbers started out as summertime ditch diggers when they were in school. They weren't formal 'employees', they were just day laborers.

As far as I know, you now have to be 18 just to be on the job site!

59 posted on 05/19/2013 8:36:03 AM PDT by MamaTexan (A government that will not defend it's military will also not bother to protect its People.)
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To: MamaTexan

Thats just it Most Plumbers are not just plumbers.
We are!
Business owners.
Sales staff.
Quality control.
Human resource person.
Coustomer satisfaction person.
Educator of employees.
Hvac Tech.
Purchasing agent.
Delivery driver.
Heavy equiptment operator& mechanic.
Liason to the IRS.
Bookkeeper Accountant and payroll master.
Emergency Job site DR ready with the duct tape.
Just to name a few hats we wear every day>


60 posted on 05/19/2013 8:48:48 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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