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Man killed was reportedly about to admit role in Waltham homicides
www.wickedlocal.com/salemm ^ | 5/22/13 | Unstated

Posted on 05/22/2013 10:39:26 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins

A man being questioned in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings who was killed in Florida early Wednesday by the FBI was reportedly going to admit his role in the 2011 Waltham triple homicide, according to news partner WCVB.

Khusen Taramov said he and Ibragim Todashev were being questioned as part of the bombings by the FBI official and law enforcement officers in Orlando.

Taramov said Todashev, 27, knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev because both were MMA fighters, WCVB reports. Taramov said they were interviewed nearly three hours, and at some point, "something went wrong," and Todashev was killed. Sources said Todashev was about to admit his role in a triple homicide that happened in Waltham on Sept. 11, 2011, when he "went crazy."

"There was some sort of aggressive movement that led the FBI agent to believe he was under threat and he opened fire," the law enforcement official told ABC News. It was not clear what role Todashev may have played, but he was "about to sign a statement" admitting to a role with Tsarnaev in the unsolved murders.

The Waltham Police Department, the Middlesex District Attorney’s Office and the Boston division of the FBI did not comment on the case. The State Police referred calls to the FBI.

The Middlesex District Attorney’s Office is looking into the possible tie between now-dead bombing suspect Tsarnaev and the Sept. 11, 2011, murders of three men inside a home on Harding Avenue.

Tsarnaev had been training with one of the 2011 murder victims in an attempt to transition from boxing into a possible career in the sport of mixed martial arts, according to news partner WCVB. One of the murder victims identified by police, Brendan Mess, 25, of Waltham, was a well-known mixed martial arts fighter.

The three men killed had their throats stabbed and their bodies covered with marijuana, according to police. The grisly murder scene had produced no leads made public to date. Cambridge residents Eric Weissman, 31, and Rapheal Teken, 37, were also killed. Teken graduated from Brookline High School and Brandeis University.

The murders are under investigation by the Waltham Police Department and the State Police Middlesex County CPAC Unit.

The FBI confirmed today that a person was shot and killed in Florida, but would not disclose details about the investigation.

"The agent, along with two Massachusetts State Police troopers and other law enforcement personnel, were interviewing an individual in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a violent confrontation was initiated by the individual," the FBI said in a statement.

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1 posted on 05/22/2013 10:39:26 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Obama mo...."I don't want witnesses."

They must have been shocked when they sprayed 200 bullets into that boat and he came out alive.

2 posted on 05/22/2013 10:42:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Don’t worry. Obummer has said that there are no more terrorists in the US and that the Marathon bombers were working alone. Trust him. He only lies to you if he thinks it’s for your own good.


3 posted on 05/22/2013 10:43:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Shot and killed while in custody and being questioned? Really?

/facepalm

There is absolutely nothing the feds can say that will be believable from this point on.


4 posted on 05/22/2013 10:43:53 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can’t solve a problem with brute force, they’ll find a way to fix it with brute forc)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

B-B-But weren’t the Tsarnaev’s just sweet little refugees who came to America for an education and somehow became self-radicalized and did a very naughty, misguided thing all by dem little selfs?/s


5 posted on 05/22/2013 10:44:02 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Even a trained martial artist with a knife would probably know it wasn’t smart to go up against armed FBI agents...


6 posted on 05/22/2013 10:44:19 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

What is dangerous or inconvenient about this fellow admitting to something, and to whom?


7 posted on 05/22/2013 10:44:21 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: Valpal1

Seriously.

He was in a room with 2 State troopers, FBI and other LEOs and they had to shoot him?


8 posted on 05/22/2013 10:48:31 AM PDT by NOVACPA
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

This is brazen.


9 posted on 05/22/2013 10:50:47 AM PDT by marron
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
"There was some sort of aggressive movement that led the FBI agent to believe he was under threat and he opened fire," the law enforcement official told ABC News

Yeah...there's a lot of that going around. Apparently, the FBI agent didn't see a dog to shoot. Oh wait! The terrorist was the dog?

10 posted on 05/22/2013 10:52:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: NOVACPA

This is the new Obama Regime. Shoot first, ask questions later. They did not want this person to be brought in alive.


11 posted on 05/22/2013 10:53:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

How did he smuggle a knife into a secure area?


12 posted on 05/22/2013 10:53:53 AM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: razorback-bert
"How did he smuggle a knife into a secure area?"

It probably didn't smell very good.

13 posted on 05/22/2013 10:56:17 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Sacajaweau

It is a real bitch having to live in a world where the “Obama Narrative” is sacrosanct.


14 posted on 05/22/2013 11:01:07 AM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

This stinks of cover up.

If the FBI is questioning a suspect, they have so little control, they have to shoot?

Idiots. Incompetents. Or, Conspirators.


15 posted on 05/22/2013 11:02:45 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: NOVACPA

Need to preserve the narrative.


16 posted on 05/22/2013 11:03:50 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Major WTF alert!

This is truly not credible.

The FBI is either truly incompetent or just shooting suspects and witnesses to cover up.

Which is it?


17 posted on 05/22/2013 11:04:40 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

“There was some sort of aggressive movement that led the FBI agent to believe he was under threat and he opened fire,”
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Was it FBI agent Lon Horiuchi? He’s been very good at shooting and killing unarmed individuals. Well, the dead guy won’t be saying anything about prior FBI/Justice Department involvement now.


18 posted on 05/22/2013 11:05:54 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Uncle Miltie

The FBI is either truly incompetent or just shooting suspects and witnesses to cover up.

Which is it?
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Well, “cover up” is all the rage with the Obama regime and the Justice Department now, so I’d go with something being covered up.


19 posted on 05/22/2013 11:07:40 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Where is Jack Ruby when you need him?


20 posted on 05/22/2013 11:09:49 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
I get it.

Boxing, MMA.... his hands were LETHAL WEAPONS!

wonder if they were registered

21 posted on 05/22/2013 11:14:00 AM PDT by Roccus (Government.....an extortion racket the mob envys.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Man killed was reportedly about to admit role in Waltham homicides

Luckily for Uncle Scam the man they accused his dead and cannot defend himself in court and the compliant Corporate Media will convict him in the court of public opinion based only on hearsay. Move along, nothing to see here.

22 posted on 05/22/2013 11:15:22 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Whoa!


23 posted on 05/22/2013 11:34:00 AM PDT by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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To: Gaffer

According to wikipedia he grabbed a knife and went at the FBI agent.


24 posted on 05/22/2013 11:35:53 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
When’s the last time a witness was killed in a closed interrogation session that made the news? I can’t remember.

This may break bad or good. If it seems incontrovertible that he’s guilty, it’s over; but more than likely someone on our side screwed up.

25 posted on 05/22/2013 11:38:44 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: NOVACPA

Okay, it seems he was not in custody, but at his apt. preparing to leave the country and they went there to question him.

Still a monumental cock up.


26 posted on 05/22/2013 11:50:26 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can’t solve a problem with brute force, they’ll find a way to fix it with brute forc)
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To: cicero2k

According to wikipedia Waltham murders 2011 two Massachusetts state troopers were there with the FBI agent who was from the Boston Field office while they interviewed Todashev.


27 posted on 05/22/2013 11:56:27 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Thanks...but I really don’t care about either one.


28 posted on 05/22/2013 12:00:03 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Uncle Miltie
The FBI is either truly incompetent or just shooting suspects and witnesses to cover up

If FBI planned to execute him, wouldn't it be done in complete secrecy ? Why would they let a word of this shooting get out ?

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29 posted on 05/22/2013 12:07:37 PM PDT by repentant_pundit (Sammy's your uncle, but he behaves like a spoiled rotten kid.)
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To: Valpal1

“Still a monumental cock up.”

I think so too - the FBI didn’t have full control of the scene and this guy wanted to die as a martyr. But, sadly, with this administration, I can’t completely rule out the cover-up theories.


30 posted on 05/22/2013 12:13:42 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: repentant_pundit

So you’ll go with the “truly incompetent” theory.

Totally possible.


31 posted on 05/22/2013 12:13:44 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: 21twelve
Taramov said they were interviewed nearly three hours, and at some point, "something went wrong," and Todashev was killed.

This was a long interview, not a street standoff.

32 posted on 05/22/2013 12:15:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("The White House can't be trusted." - Ron Fournier, National Journal)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

This decade’s version of Arkancide?

Lot’s of strange things going on.


33 posted on 05/22/2013 12:17:50 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Roccus

They’re saying he pulled a knife, not that he used his hands.


34 posted on 05/22/2013 12:32:06 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: repentant_pundit

You’re being too logical. Ain’t no conspiracy theorists got time fo dat!


35 posted on 05/22/2013 12:33:31 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Uncle Miltie
The FBI is either truly incompetent or just shooting suspects and witnesses to cover up.

Maybe both?

36 posted on 05/22/2013 12:36:41 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Valpal1
There is absolutely nothing the feds can say that will be believable from this point on.

Just wanted to re-post that and add; On any subject.

37 posted on 05/22/2013 12:39:05 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

The FBI agent was probably a woman and the individual was overpowering her. Think diversity.


38 posted on 05/22/2013 12:46:59 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: Boogieman
So there were originally two guys and one was asked to leave...and low and behold the one left behind got dead.

Can one think why the guy wasn't frisked?? And the cops aren't trained to defend themselves against a knife other than by using a gun?

And how many shots did it take to make him really, really dead?

39 posted on 05/22/2013 12:59:42 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Boogieman

I’m reading the FBI and two local troopers were interviewing him...This makes little sense.


40 posted on 05/22/2013 1:01:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Read the FBI agent was from the Boston field office and it was two Massachusetts state troopers with him in the Orlando interview.


41 posted on 05/22/2013 1:07:20 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

What I’m questioning is that there were 3 cops and one perp....and their only choice was a kill shot??


42 posted on 05/22/2013 1:16:23 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

“Can one think why the guy wasn’t frisked??”

I don’t think he was under arrest. They were interviewing him at his house, and we’ve all got knives handy in our homes anyway, so what would the point be?

“And the cops aren’t trained to defend themselves against a knife other than by using a gun?”

Maybe as a last resort. I wouldn’t try to defend myself against a deadly weapon with a taser, pepper spray, or my bare hands, if I had a gun on my hip, that’s for sure.


43 posted on 05/22/2013 1:31:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sacajaweau
I have watched the videos of his fights online and if he came at one with a knife one would probably shoot him any way they could, especially if he had anything to do with the triple murder. A lethal shot stops him from stabbing faster. This guy was no joke as a fighter. Real quick.

Don't blame you for questioning here. Just my view.

44 posted on 05/22/2013 1:45:09 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Mashood

This guy overpowered every martial arts opponent easily in the videos on youtube. One of them was announced as a championship fight. He was a nightmare without a knife.


45 posted on 05/22/2013 1:51:10 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Yea... who knows... maybe it was a good kill.


46 posted on 05/22/2013 3:48:39 PM PDT by Mashood
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Sources said Todashev was about to admit his role in a triple homicide that happened in Waltham on Sept. 11, 2011, when he "went crazy."

Other sources say that the FBI agent murdered Todashev in cold blood to cover up the bureau's connection to Boston...

Albuquerque. See, I can do it too. Snorkel.

47 posted on 05/22/2013 6:54:46 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Mashood; Freedom of Speech Wins
Yea... who knows... maybe it was a good kill.

I'll just remind you here that this is the same Police State that needed 9,000 4th Amendment-violating stormtroopers to not find a shot & bleeding teenager.

As far as I'm concerned, anything that comes out of their pieholes is a lie until I see the videotape.

48 posted on 05/22/2013 7:03:06 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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