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Germany fears revolution if Europe scraps welfare model
Reuters ^ | May 28, 2013 | by Ingrid Melander

Posted on 05/28/2013 5:20:45 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble warned on Tuesday that failure to win the battle against youth unemployment could tear Europe apart, and dropping the continent's welfare model in favor of tougher U.S. standards would spark a revolution.

If U.S. welfare standards were introduced in Europe, "we would have revolution, not tomorrow, but on the very same day," Schaeuble told a conference in Paris.

In recent weeks Germany, wary of a backlash as many in crisis-hit European countries blame it for austerity, has taken steps to tackle unemployment in the bloc, striking bilateral deals with Spain and Portugal.

"We have to rescue an entire generation of young people who are scared. We have the best-educated generation and we are putting them on hold. This is not acceptable," Italian Labour Minister Enrico Giovannini said.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: euelites; euempire; eurobanking; europeanunion; eussr; failure; germany; schaeuble; socialism; socialmarketeconomy; welfare
Socialism fails every time.
1 posted on 05/28/2013 5:20:45 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You might get one even if you don’t, as the ration of takers overcomes the makers.


2 posted on 05/28/2013 5:22:02 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

US standards are “tough”?


3 posted on 05/28/2013 5:27:39 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If US standards are tough then God help us. The Germans make it sou d like there is a choice. The Welfare State model is collapsing. There is no keeping it.


4 posted on 05/28/2013 5:28:21 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...note to my European friends....buy your personal ammunition now....


5 posted on 05/28/2013 5:30:12 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
As the United States has been rushing off to adopt the European Model for the past 20 years (and some of our Supremes defer to European Court rulings).
Sure, follow a doomed model and end up just like them. The only ones who 'win' are the ruling class - the rest of the people become serfs to feed their betters.

Imposed socialism doesn't work - it never has, and never will.

The only 'Socialism' that worked for a short while was when the early Christians in Acts voluntarily pooled their goods together (Acts 2:44-45 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.). Of course their 'government' was led by Christ and the Holy Spirit... We and Europe, on the other hand, are led by followers of Satan.

6 posted on 05/28/2013 5:30:22 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The two classes of people that benefit most from welfare are the rich and poor.

End all forms of welfare now.


7 posted on 05/28/2013 5:32:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If U.S. welfare standards were introduced in Europe, "we would have revolution, not tomorrow, but on the very same day," Schaeuble told a conference in Paris.

Wow. I knew U.S. standards were pretty liberal, but that seems a little over the top. ;-)

It is the grim end to a decades-long social experiment. How do you wean a dependent class your policies deliberately created? Especially when you don't really have a choice? You can't "provide" jobs unless it's day labor on civic construction projects - the Emperors of the late Western Roman Empire managed to buy a lot of time doing that, but they had the legions to back them up. You can't just cut them off. Cutting the benefits down only serves to lengthen the anger and intensify the inevitable rupture.

There's really only one thing for a Ruling Class to do in this situation: steal everything it can and build a safe haven somewhere out of the free-fire zone. And hope that no one comes a-knocking. I understand that there are some very fine dachas available near the Black Sea. Perhaps the Russians might provide them, and security too...for a price. Think of it as a business opportunity.

8 posted on 05/28/2013 5:39:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

His error is in assuming that it would just happen one day. The truth is that such reform must be gradual.

Since small business combined is the largest employer in most nations, such a move should be initiated with a serious reduction in the bureaucratic and tax obstacles to entrepreneurship.

Europe needs to discard the mindset of “That which is not expressly permitted in the law is forbidden”, and adopt a much more business friendly, Common Law attitude of “That which is not expressly *forbidden* in the law is legal.”

This simple concept could double the German GDP in a decade, and slash employment to five percent or less.

When welfare is slashed by *attrition*, there are far fewer complaints except among those who profit from managing a welfare state.


9 posted on 05/28/2013 5:40:36 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Does “youth” mean here what it usually means?


10 posted on 05/28/2013 5:44:51 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

socialism needs to be swept into the ash-bin of history.


11 posted on 05/28/2013 5:45:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They think the US doesn’t have welfare?

Are they that ignorant?


12 posted on 05/28/2013 5:46:14 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Pay me now, or pay me later, as the transmission commercial says.


13 posted on 05/28/2013 5:53:26 PM PDT by Glenmore
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

German revolution? What could go wrong?


14 posted on 05/28/2013 5:54:31 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

For the record: Europe does not have a capitalist economy. The Treaty of Lisbon officially declares the EU has “social market economy”, or soft fascism.

see for example:
SOCIAL MARKET ECONOMY EXPLAINED IN A SIMPLE WAY
http://www.kas.de/jordanien/en/publications/13321/


16 posted on 05/28/2013 6:02:45 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: El Cid

Voluntary is the key word. Our lefties want us to be more like Europe and whenever some country there fails it’s something other than the welfare state. They use some cherry picked examples to prove the success of socialism, but the cause is always something other than socialism.


17 posted on 05/28/2013 7:01:05 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think if measured in human potential lost, the poor would riot. They don’t understand the collar socialism places on them.

Poor Maya Angelou doesn’t know why the caged bird sings. It sings [votes] for its supper.


18 posted on 05/28/2013 7:04:24 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They raised several generations of helpless and hopeless hot house flowers, who can’t survive outside in the real world.


19 posted on 05/28/2013 7:42:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

In defense of the German — the socialist welfare model has existed in Germany longer than anywhere else in Europe.

It was introduced by Bismarck during the 1870s.

Germans have been spoiled for five generations.


20 posted on 05/28/2013 7:50:26 PM PDT by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
They're going to have a revolution if they don't scrap their immigration model.
21 posted on 05/28/2013 9:30:19 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: El Cid
The WESTERN European model worked when the US was protecting France etc. from the Soviets and the French opted out of NATO -- to spend that money saved on freebies for the population

Just as the US over the past 20 years has taken a turn left, former left countries like China, India etc. are turning right....

22 posted on 05/28/2013 10:02:57 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“We have to rescue an entire generation of young people who are scared.”

You have to rescue an entire generation of young people who think that the State owes them a living.


23 posted on 05/28/2013 10:14:09 PM PDT by RonF
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To: El Cid
It grates on my nerves to see socialism espoused in the scripture you cited. The LDS church also has a concept of the "united order" that feeds on the same socialist concepts. Socialism always fails when it runs out of resources to steal from those who work vs those who consume. Is "heaven" a place of inexhaustible resources that requires no work? If so, it might work.
24 posted on 05/28/2013 10:37:38 PM PDT by Myrddin
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