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Boy Scout Exodus Has Begun
Politcal Outcast ^ | 5/29/13 | Dave Jolly

Posted on 05/29/2013 2:51:38 PM PDT by Nachum

Last week, the executive board of Boy Scouts of America voted to allow openly gay kids into their programs, thus compromising their long standing set of Christian morals and values. When I heard about their vote, it saddened me to see them succumb to the pressures of a debauched society.

In my report last week about their compromise, I predicted that a number of church sponsored Boy Scout programs would be ended the same way it happened in Canada when they allowed the gays to go camping with them. Well, it seems the exodus has begun.

Southeast Christian Church first opened its doors in 1962 with 53 charter members in Louisville, KY. It has an average weekly attendance of 22,000 and a membership of over 30,000. It is the largest church in Kentucky and fifth largest in the United States.

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To: DCBryan1

Not just a homo promoter, he also was in favor of pedaphelia - see his posts on the Kaitlyn Hunt threads.


51 posted on 05/29/2013 4:27:23 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: editor-surveyor

If you knew anything about scouting you would know what you suggest will not happen


52 posted on 05/29/2013 4:29:59 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Obama Denies Role in Government)
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To: Lancey Howard

The numbers will be so trivial as to be inconsequential.

PC will not be in effect.


53 posted on 05/29/2013 4:31:31 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Obama Denies Role in Government)
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To: Lancey Howard

lol! funniest post of the day!


54 posted on 05/29/2013 4:32:26 PM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: posterchild

Some churches have programs like the Royal Rangers.


55 posted on 05/29/2013 4:37:20 PM PDT by formosa
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To: PGR88
You pretty well have it sized up. "Them who has the gold, make the rules." UPS, Merck, and Intel were part of the later snowball effect. There were 3 members of the BSA National Executive Committee, which sets the agenda (not the professionals)who drove this bus over the cliff - the CEOs of AT&T, Ernst & Young, and Exxon-Mobil.

The ~294 local councils have to be self-funding also. They all have to develop their own streams of income. Three of the common streams they all use are (1) United Way, (2) Friends of Scouting (FoS), and (3) Trails End Popcorn sales.

Yes, the counter-revolution has to arise from the grass roots. BSA as we knew it, looks to be finished, but some things may take a wild turn before 1/01/2014. Besides looking at other church-sponsored youth organizations, keep checking in at OnMyHonor.net. That group seems to be the tip of the spear leading the Exodus.

56 posted on 05/29/2013 4:37:35 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: mware

“Living in the rural area of South Jersey 4-H is pretty popular.”

Bad news for rural South Jersey. Apparently the 4-H Clubs of America and National Little League dopted a “sexual orientation” nondiscrimination policy in 2010.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/london-ky/TKAORCI02158S8U4E


57 posted on 05/29/2013 4:37:37 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: Nachum
This isn’t difficult to pick what side that you would want to be on to defend values.

Following the moral code or saying.. okay, I think it’s alight if a young boy wants to have some type of behavior with another boy (that involves a sexual aspect) Can't people see why many are concerned.

58 posted on 05/29/2013 4:37:47 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: mware

hehe

4-H is controlled by state universities. They’ve been around the bend for a long time.


59 posted on 05/29/2013 4:41:10 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Venturer

That vote was even dumber than “New Coke”.

Note to BSA:
There’s probably still time to wake up and reverse your STUPID decision.


60 posted on 05/29/2013 4:41:31 PM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Nachum

ANY PARENT that permits their kids to be at such a level of risk to have them IN A TENT with someone that might be a flamer, should have their kids removed from their custody.


61 posted on 05/29/2013 4:41:55 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Albion Wilde
18 Should have said "secular, not Observant Jews"; but it didn't.

Inaccurate. The National Jewish Committee on Scouting is very religious - principally Reformed and Conservative branches of American Judaism.

62 posted on 05/29/2013 4:42:06 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: bert

Stop huffing and puffing.

I know more about scouting than you for sure. I don’t cover my eyes to the reality like you do. BSA will go the same route that the girls have, and it will happen quickly. Infiltration has nullified what scouting once was.


63 posted on 05/29/2013 4:43:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: presently no screen name
24 The observant Jews can be with their own type, true Christians. We are all in this together.

Not so. American Judaism is split among at least 6 branches. The 2 largest are Reformed and Conservative. They both perform homosexual marriage.

64 posted on 05/29/2013 4:44:26 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Nachum

My H and two boys were Scouts, Eagle and Life. Now I gotta wonder.............


65 posted on 05/29/2013 4:46:34 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: MacNaughton

So you are saying then all American Jews are OK with homosexuality?


66 posted on 05/29/2013 4:46:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: upchuck

This section is poorly written.

I read that SCC was deeply disturbed that the BSA would even CONSIDER allowing gays. This is why they were ending their charter with BSA. To the SCC, there was NO debate - gays & scouts do not mix.

This is the way to deal with perversion - there is NO debate, it is evil. When you agree to debate, you are tacitly agreeing there is something to debate, & place yourself at peril that you may lose that debate, not because you are wrong, but because you are out talked.

Fundamental morality is not debatable & cannot be changed by clever words.


67 posted on 05/29/2013 4:47:07 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Salvavida

Don’t know that it would do any good. Anybody remember what YMCA once stood for?


68 posted on 05/29/2013 4:51:00 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: posterchild
30 What organized alternatives are there to BSA?

Do a search on FR with the keyword: Boy Scouts. Lots of great posts with good recommendations by Freepers. The short list ...

OnMyHonor.net
Royal Ambassadors
Christian Service Brigade
Royal Rangers
Marine Corps League
AWANA
Calvinist Cadet Corps
Pathfinder
Young Minutemen of America

Do not consider the Baden-Powell Scout Association. It is inclusive of open homosexuals.

69 posted on 05/29/2013 4:52:06 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Hootowl

Everything runs its course. When reform is needed, then that is the issue. We do it for our kids, their future and ours.


70 posted on 05/29/2013 4:56:18 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Mister Da
If I am not mistaken, the 2 biggest church sponsors of scouting are the Catholics and the Mormons (and don't start; this is about scouting) (and, no, I am NOT a Mormon).

Based on past experience I can see the former temporizing and ultimately caving in as it has on the issue of proabortion Catholic politicians. The latter, though, may show more backbone, withdraw from the BSA, and start their own male youth program.

Withdrawal of the Mormons will hit the BSA right where it hurts so I hope they do it. Withdrawal of the Catholics would be the right thing to do but so would denying communion to the likes of Pelosi and Biden but all the Catholic Church ever does is huff and puff so I am not hopeful.

71 posted on 05/29/2013 4:57:24 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: cizinec
36 It has been brough to my attention that the BSA has a Congressional Charter making it illegal for other youth groups to have “Scout” in their name or say they engage in “Scouting.” Time to end the Charter. They also get special tax treatment in almost all (if not all) states. Time to end it.

BSA was granted the charter in 1916. And yes, you are right. However, Girl Scouts-USA were granted their charter in 1950. Amid dissatisfaction with the system, the subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee decided to discontinue issuing Congrssional charters in 1992. BSA still honors the terms of its charter, primarily delivering an annual report to members of Congress. The Baden-Powell Scout Association became a registered corporation in the U.S. and was issued federal non-profit organization status, operating the 1st Tarrant Scout Group in TX.

72 posted on 05/29/2013 4:57:38 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Salvavida

Royal Rangers. Look it up!


73 posted on 05/29/2013 4:58:58 PM PDT by vpintheak (We are the chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: presently no screen name
66 So you are saying then all American Jews are OK with homosexuality?

Not at all - just the 2 largest "denomnations." The smaller Orthodox branch does not perform homosexual marriages and seems to be very much at the other end of social spectrum from the Reformed and Conservative (who are not conservative by Freeper understanding).

74 posted on 05/29/2013 5:03:35 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Nachum

Good. What was once a great organization has kissed liberal a$$ and will soon be no more.


75 posted on 05/29/2013 5:03:42 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Nachum

The whole plan is to empty out the organization and replace it with leftists.

Same with our military.


76 posted on 05/29/2013 5:06:45 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Nachum

I think all was lost when they created the Webelos.


77 posted on 05/29/2013 5:08:50 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Nachum

Nearly a decade and a half ago I and the church of which I am a part was part of the first wave of exodus out of the elca. It was clear even then that those who wanted change had already taken into account there would be losses, perhaps significant losses. Those losses were acceptable to them to achieve the change they sought.

It is no different within the BSA.

This may be the last time I capitalize “BSA.” Like the elca, it may prove undeserving of the respect of using capitol letters.


78 posted on 05/29/2013 5:18:02 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: MacNaughton
The National Jewish Committee on Scouting is very religious - principally Reformed and Conservative branches of American Judaism.

Reformed and Conservative branches are the ultraliberals and the liberals. Bible-believing Jews are Orthodox. There is also an ultra-Orthodox sect called Hasidim. But even when I was growing up among Jews in the 50s, Reformed Jews ate pork and many were members of the Communist Party. Conservatives were pretty much assimilated Democrats. And that was then.

I say this with great respect for genuinely religious Jews who are family-supportive and socially conservative; I live near a huge Orthodox community even now, and know the difference. I also might add that most mainstream Protestant churches now are just social clubs, where the gospels or any sort of religious zeal are an embarrassment.

79 posted on 05/29/2013 5:19:29 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: Nachum

Did these delegates not think such exodus would not happen? Who are these men and did they not listen to the churches who sponsor them or was this decision made in a vacuum?


80 posted on 05/29/2013 5:19:48 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (He thwarts the plans of the crafty so that their hands achieve no success...Job 5:12)
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To: Robwin
71 If I am not mistaken, the 2 biggest church sponsors of scouting are the Catholics and the Mormons ...

According to the 2012 BSA National Report to the Nation (which was released in FEB 2013), 63.6% of all registered scouts were in units chartered to religious institutions. The 6 largest were ...

1. LDS 26.2%
2. UMC 22.1%
3. RCC 16.6%
4. Presbyterian (PC-USA, PCA, others) 7.6%
5. Lutheran (ELCA, LC-MS, LC-WS) 7.1%
6. Baptist (SBC and all others) 6.6%

... Based on past experience I can see the former temporizing and ultimately caving in as it has on the issue of proabortion Catholic politicians. The latter, though, may show more backbone, withdraw from the BSA, and start their own male youth program.

Lots of Catholics on FR posting on these threads who strongly disagree with that viewpoint. While the National Catholic Committee on Scouting has essentially accepted it, many within the Church believe it is going to be reversed.

Withdrawal of the Mormons will hit the BSA right where it hurts so I hope they do it.

The LDS church adopted the BSA as its official male youth program in 1913. Informed insiders have said that the LDS leadership is tired of being a punching bag regarding homosexual marriage (Prop 8 in CA, 2008) and is very fearful that continued negative publicity coming from the homosexualist lobby could damage the church's missionary work in converting new members to the faith.

Withdrawal of the Catholics would be the right thing to do.

Agreed. Hope they get around to it sometime during the next 7 months.

81 posted on 05/29/2013 5:19:49 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: RobinOfKingston
78 Nearly a decade and a half ago I and the church of which I am a part was part of the first wave of exodus out of the elca. It was clear even then that those who wanted change had already taken into account there would be losses, perhaps significant losses. Those losses were acceptable to them to achieve the change they sought. It is no different within the BSA. This may be the last time I capitalize “BSA.” Like the elca, it may prove undeserving of the respect of using capitol letters.

Former Episcopalian here who fled the ECUSA sinking ship in 2003. Same story.

82 posted on 05/29/2013 5:23:06 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: Nachum

Since the fruits are so stoked at their victory I’d like to ask them to do something for me. Please step up their Chick Fil A boycott. Was way after lunch hour today and I couldn’t even get near the place as it was so crowded. Drive through traffic was wrapped around the building.


83 posted on 05/29/2013 5:24:32 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: MacNaughton

I am familiar with what you write. In those days, one of my favorite writers was David Virtue, a stalwart of traditional Episcopalian belief.

Anyway, God bles . . . there is abundant life after the ecusa and elca!!!


84 posted on 05/29/2013 5:28:27 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: bert

>> The quantity will be so small they will nt be the nightmaare you dreamed up.

The nightmare is BSA’s endorsement of open homosexuality within the organization. It’s become the Bitch Scouts of America.


85 posted on 05/29/2013 5:37:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MacNaughton
Truth reaches so few.....

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matt 713.14

86 posted on 05/29/2013 5:41:54 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Paisan

Yep...all my best pals were Scouts...we took it very seriously. Our troop Soutmaster and assistant Scoutmaster were old Navy Seabees. Our troop was a para-military outfit and we could march do drills and had unifor inspections at every meeting.

I was selected to be one of the 5 recruit petty officers when I was in Navy boot camp. After graduation I asked the Chief Boatswain’s Mate, company commander how he chose the recruit petty officers and he told me, “easy, I just go through the company records and pick former Boy Scouts. It always works” he said.

Not so sure that will continue.


87 posted on 05/29/2013 5:58:41 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Nachum

Truth is, nobody is happy about this decision. They decided to split the baby and everyone is pissed. The fag progressives want their scout leaders to be able to molest kids. So far, only gay kids allowed as the camel sticks its nose under the tent.
I saw this coming from a mile away. My kids go to Royal Rangers at our Church. Hopefully, more people will join our ranks as an alternative to the queerness of BS.


88 posted on 05/29/2013 6:05:47 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Amen, brother. I’ve been away from ECUSA/TEC for nearly 10 years now. I still check in with Brother David Virtue on at least a weekly basis. Was a member of the LC-MS for several years and liked it very much, but then a move came along. So now I am visiting a local SBC church.


89 posted on 05/29/2013 6:09:59 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: pallis
I think the idea behind the gay assault was to destroy the Boy Scouts, and the plan seems to have worked.

My thoughts exactly. It wasn't to get gays in the Scouts. It was to eliminate the Scouts.

90 posted on 05/29/2013 6:21:25 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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91 posted on 05/29/2013 6:22:51 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: MacNaughton
Ty for bringing me up to date with those stats. I appreciate it but feel there is more to be said.

Lots of Catholics on FR posting on these threads who strongly disagree with that viewpoint. While the National Catholic Committee on Scouting has essentially accepted it, many within the Church believe it is going to be reversed. And? Lots of Catholics on here are angry with the Church for not taking some kind of disciplinary action against the proaborts like Kennedy, Pelosi, et. al. Nothing happens. That doofus Biden was even an honored guest at the installation of Pope Francis. Just stating something called the National Catholic Committee is in accord with this new policy merely proves my point about Catholics.

Informed insiders have said that the LDS leadership is tired of being a punching bag regarding homosexual marriage (Prop 8 in CA, 2008) and are.very fearful that continued negative publicity coming from the homosexualist lobby could damage the church's missionary work in converting new members to the faith. Sorry but I hardly think that is the case. The Mormons have been the subject of slings and arrows since the days of Joseph Smith. Good grief just read the posts of the anti-Mormon cabal here on the Freep. I do not see them backing down if the BSA violates one of their primary moral teachings. The Catholics, yes, and I am deeply saddened to say that but it's true. The Mormons, I don't think so.

92 posted on 05/29/2013 6:26:07 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: llevrok
Game Plan:
Kill the BSA
Kill The Churches That No Longer Sponsor Scout Troops

The perfect storm for liberal mischief.

In keeping with some of the 45 Goals of Communism in 1959 and read into the 1961 Congressional Record:

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

93 posted on 05/29/2013 6:40:26 PM PDT by QT3.14 (In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act -- George Orwell)
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To: MacNaughton

take a look too at faithbasedboys.org. It’s a new group just starting in the last few weeks to develop. The name is a placeholder until they come up with something else. I’ve been peripherally involved and it is made up of good men guiding it.


94 posted on 05/29/2013 6:54:20 PM PDT by cyclotic (In a society of wolves, you do not fight back by creating more sheep-Dan Bongino)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Nachum.


95 posted on 05/29/2013 7:25:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: carriage_hill

I think we will eventually learn that Roberts was also pressured — and it had to do with his adopted children.


96 posted on 05/29/2013 7:32:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Chode

ping


97 posted on 05/29/2013 7:34:05 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
so be it...
98 posted on 05/29/2013 7:42:49 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: cyclotic
94 ... faithbasedboys.org. ...

Thank you. It is encouraging to see all this activity - hope it translates into a viable competitor to the BSA.

99 posted on 05/29/2013 9:31:57 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: DaveyB

“Maybe some people still know what “morally straight” means.”

Morally straight? That’s such a nebulous notion!/s

/s tag done to protect myself from the knives.


100 posted on 05/29/2013 10:04:55 PM PDT by Bshaw (,A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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