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Homebuilders struggle to find workers
CNN Money ^ | June 3, 2013 | Les Christie

Posted on 06/03/2013 1:54:06 PM PDT by posterchild

Sales of new homes are on a tear, but builders can't find enough workers to keep up with the demand.

After the housing bust, many workers left the building trade in droves, said Michael Fink, CEO of Leewood Real Estate Group in Trenton, N.J.

"A lot of our workers are immigrants and they went back to their home countries," he said. "Our subcontractors can't get people; they can't start on time; they can't get things done on time."

The National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) reported in March that 46% of its members say they have fallen behind schedule on finishing projects, 15% turned down jobs and 9% lost or canceled sales because they can't find enough workers.

That could have some big ramifications for the broader housing market. Housing starts fell sharply in April to 853,000 and experts project residential construction will grow by about 25% annually, according to the NAHB. At that pace, it could take more than four years to get back to early 2006 building levels, when housing starts peaked at 2.3 million, according to Census Bureau data.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: immigrants; immigration
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1 posted on 06/03/2013 1:54:06 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: posterchild

This is just anecdotal, but I know a guy who owns a flooring business and he’s working seven days a week. Some of his business is government, which is going great. Some of it was tax refunds, which happens every year; people use the refund to tile the floors. But it has gone on a long time. I still have a difficult time believing there’s any general recovery going on, though. Anybody have an explanation? Is there a recovery?


2 posted on 06/03/2013 1:57:19 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: posterchild

just go to the nearest liberal arts college, and ask for recent graduates. they’re all unemployed.


3 posted on 06/03/2013 1:58:19 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: posterchild
Don't believe this ploy now that we're having another amnesty crammed down our throats!

Around the middle of the country, one will find illegal aliens working at all most all contractors' formerly well paid jobs o American citizens!

4 posted on 06/03/2013 1:58:38 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Gen.Blather

Stealth pro-amnesty piece.


5 posted on 06/03/2013 1:58:47 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: posterchild
"A lot of our workers are immigrants and they went back to their home countries,"

What this article is REALLY about.

6 posted on 06/03/2013 1:59:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: Gen.Blather

My friends who are contractors are all busy. I know, because I ask every couple of weeks. That being said, the surrounding area is not economically-depressed.


7 posted on 06/03/2013 1:59:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Gen.Blather

Here in the midwest, building appears to have gone from essentially zero in 2009/2010 to maybe 40% of the 2006/2007 level currently.

A lot of guys in the building biz had to find something else or starve.

Of course the last peak was fueled by poor credit.


8 posted on 06/03/2013 2:00:36 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: posterchild
"A lot of our workers are immigrants and they went back to their home countries,"

I can refer you to some local replacements. Only good luck getting them sober, and off of Obama disability.


9 posted on 06/03/2013 2:00:38 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: posterchild
"Our subcontractors can't get people

With unemployment in double digits? Apparently many of those on UI have no intention of working.

10 posted on 06/03/2013 2:00:56 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: posterchild
Sales of new homes are on a tear, but builders can't find enough workers to keep up with the demand.

And - of course - because it is impossible for employers to pay higher wages, we must immediately let in twenty or thirty million more illegal aliens to do the work.

11 posted on 06/03/2013 2:01:04 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: posterchild

Close down HHS and I guarantee there will be an ample supply of capable workers willing to perform the duties of home building immediately!


12 posted on 06/03/2013 2:02:33 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I can refer you to some local replacements. Only good luck getting them sober, and off of Obama disability.

Reality Post of the Day.

13 posted on 06/03/2013 2:03:08 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Two contractor friends of mine have more work than they can handle. They end up turning down jobs.

Other tech friends of mine are unemployed, waiting for their cushy jobs to come back.

I have a new appreciation for my job, that’s for sure.


14 posted on 06/03/2013 2:03:15 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yep.


15 posted on 06/03/2013 2:03:15 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: SpaceBar

“Stealth pro-amnesty piece.”

I agree. There are way too many unemployed. Of course, most of the construction workers I knew appeared to be shiftless drunks. If they can make it between the Obama phone and the EBT card and the endless programs to help them, why work? (You can, apparently, buy anything on an EBT from drugs to alcohol to lap dances; or so I’ve read. Down the street from me is the “EBT Motel.”)


16 posted on 06/03/2013 2:04:06 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: andyk

In the Houston area, I’ve noticed more non-Hispanic workers on construction jobs than I’ve seen in years.


17 posted on 06/03/2013 2:05:04 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The man has a problem. He can’t find labor *at the price he’s paying*.

Perhaps the solution is to pay the prevailing market wage?


18 posted on 06/03/2013 2:09:05 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: posterchild

It sounds to me like those 16,500 new IRS workers really put a dent in the construction labor force.


19 posted on 06/03/2013 2:09:19 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
What this article is REALLY about

Yeah. "Now that things are going good, why can't they come? Why can't they stay?"

When the unemployment rate is < 3% and every able bodied person is off welfare, that's when. And only if legally.

20 posted on 06/03/2013 2:11:16 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Actually that’s a “jobs program” for the surplus of attorneys.


21 posted on 06/03/2013 2:12:42 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Yea, and just try to get them to work at a job that requires sweating and steel toe shoes.


22 posted on 06/03/2013 2:13:03 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Regulator

” When the unemployment rate is < 3% and every able bodied person is off welfare, that’s when. And only if legally. “

YES!


23 posted on 06/03/2013 2:14:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: posterchild
Sales of new homes are on a tear, but builders can't find enough workers to keep up with the demand.

Ummm, democrats are sitting on their behinds collecting disability. Well, when they're not getting 'job training' ...

24 posted on 06/03/2013 2:15:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: posterchild

Translation: We must legalize 30 million Mexicans.


25 posted on 06/03/2013 2:16:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: posterchild

Where?


26 posted on 06/03/2013 2:16:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: GOPJ

Indeed, a huge portion of our workforce is now “disabled”.


27 posted on 06/03/2013 2:16:49 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: JCBreckenridge
The man has a problem. He can’t find labor *at the price he’s paying*.

Perhaps the solution is to pay the prevailing market wage?

Free market works both ways. I found that out when I needed to hire an accoustical engineer. You don't need them for long, but you pay, and how, for the time you do.

28 posted on 06/03/2013 2:18:28 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee

Yep, funny thing that free market. ;)


29 posted on 06/03/2013 2:25:17 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: zerosix
*Don’t believe this ploy now that we’re having another amnesty crammed down our throats!
Around the middle of the country, one will find illegal aliens working at all most all contractors’ formerly well paid jobs o American citizens! *

There’s over 7 million people out of work. Many are willing to work for minimun wage or slightly higher.

Something dosen’t smell right here.....

30 posted on 06/03/2013 2:31:15 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: PATRIOT1876

This is a real burner for me. Home builders in my home area gave all contracts to Illegals that did not need a state liscense to operate and that included 3 Plumbers, Electricians, and HVAC. The rest from roofing to concrete were rewarded because the Illegals cut price by 2/3 the actual bid of an American! And ran them all out of business!
I really couldn’t care less if any home builder in our area ever built another home or made another dime!


31 posted on 06/03/2013 2:41:57 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I’m an IT guy and I wear steel toes and have large sections of where I work that are doing good having fans.


32 posted on 06/03/2013 2:43:11 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“just go to the nearest liberal arts college, and ask for recent graduates. they’re all unemployed.”

A good number of them will kill/cripple themselves just MEASURING something.


33 posted on 06/03/2013 2:43:57 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: PATRIOT1876
Of course this doesn't pass the smell test.

You are absolutely right about the millions of unemployed! Many are no longer on the unemployment list as they've either run out of unemployment and thus quit showing up for their "job interview" lists or they quit trying because what they did, no longer exists as a "job!"

I'm certain that roofers, concrete guys, rough-in crews and sheet rock installers would love to find jobs but there are no openings with illegal aliens all working in their fields.

Just as an anecdote, a home near me recently did a total makeover using a major contractor doing the job. Who showed up every day for work, Hispanics!

Now I don't know that they are here legally but for some, the contractor drove every day and dropped them off, no one spoke English, according to the neighbors who complained plenty about workers trashing up their yards with construction debris and garbage left over from their meals and loud music going on all hours.

34 posted on 06/03/2013 2:46:06 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: andyk

I appreciate mine. Up until late last year, I was hearing from tech recruiters fairly regularly. Nowadays almost never.


35 posted on 06/03/2013 2:46:33 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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You aren’t a graduate of a liberal arts program where you majored in “women’s studies” or “the black experience” and hoping for a cushy teaching position at some liberal college or university. You thin THOSE people are going to be satisfied carrying lumber and pushing a framing nailer?


36 posted on 06/03/2013 2:46:34 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: posterchild

“A lot of our workers are immigrants and they went back to their home countries,” he said.

Then he should leave too. What he’s saying is that American workers were driven out of the construction jobs by illegals before the crash.


37 posted on 06/03/2013 2:57:10 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: posterchild

Why Work when you get welfare and food stamps!


38 posted on 06/03/2013 3:02:51 PM PDT by buffyt (Ted Cruz, Allen West, Rand Paul, Tim Scott for president, VP, Sec of State, etc 2016)
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To: posterchild

Translation: Homebuilders are having trouble finding cheap illegal Mexican labor. They have all been assimilated enough into the welfare and entitlement system, they don’t give a crap about working for $10/hour. Oh, what will the builders do?


39 posted on 06/03/2013 3:14:27 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: freedomfiter2

I have no sympathy for a frigging homebuilder whose success depends on having illegal Mexicans working for him to stay afloat. They’re just want to make more profit and not have to work as hard.


40 posted on 06/03/2013 3:15:39 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gen.Blather

You get the same bleating from the agriculture business when crop picking time comes around. There are new homes being built, but the most successful are the high end builders who maintained a competent work force. Jack Leg shysters who THINK they’re builders are crying because they can’t get back in on it soon enough.


41 posted on 06/03/2013 3:17:43 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: PATRIOT1876
There’s over 7 million people out of work. Many are willing to work for minimun wage or slightly higher.

I'd like to see the official documentation on that.......

42 posted on 06/03/2013 3:27:38 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Gaffer
I have no sympathy for a frigging homebuilder whose success depends on having illegal Mexicans working for him to stay afloat.

They even import illegal aliens into Hawaii, apparently for home construction and all the other" jobs Americans won't do." We started seeing gang graffiti all over the place last few trips back there.

43 posted on 06/03/2013 3:28:33 PM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Gaffer

Me neither, and since the engineered crash I’ve gone back to construction.


44 posted on 06/03/2013 4:00:11 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: posterchild

A real problem with Construction jobs is not the steel toed boots, or the wages, but the requirement for a drug test. This tends to weed out most of the Governmentaly supported.


45 posted on 06/03/2013 4:20:19 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: posterchild
Pay the wages the market demands, and every vacant position would be filled. The problem is, the companies don't want to pay Americans to do a hot, sweaty, dirty, dangerous, uncomfortable job, so they look for Mexicans and Central Americans who will do the work for slave wages. Welcome to the "global economy".

Same goes for agriculture. There are no "jobs Americans won't do"...they just expect to be paid better than an illegal scumbag alien.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

46 posted on 06/03/2013 4:25:12 PM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: posterchild

I really do enjoy my job. 25 years in HVAC. Retrofits, residential, commercial and industrial. Though still ‘’out in the field’’, and doing the grunt work...in heat, cold, rain, snow, you name it. I am EPA licensed (what a crock) and can not only size nearly any system and fabricate both sheetmetal and fiberglass ducts. What frosts me is when someone who couldn’t find his arse with both hands, a map, a searchlight, guide dog and three equally moronic helpers tries to tell me that what I am doing isn’t what would ‘’look best’’.
It’s supposed to work best and most efficiently, not ‘’aesthetically pleasing’’.


47 posted on 06/03/2013 5:10:14 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: posterchild

Supply and demand, raise your pay.


48 posted on 06/03/2013 5:20:34 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Thumper1960

Tell me about that EPA licensing. It’s a total crock, no?


49 posted on 06/03/2013 6:21:15 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Just another means for government to siphon money from your pockets.
Besides, the ‘’test’’ is hardly rocket science. Might as well be open book. For dealing with a day of BS, you get the ‘’privilege’’ of legally handling and purchasing CFCs. Wow!


50 posted on 06/03/2013 7:38:36 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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