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Sources Say IRS Scandal “About to Explode” – Paper Trail Leads “All The Way To Top Levels In DC
Getaway Pundit ^ | June 3, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/04/2013 3:11:48 AM PDT by grundle

Uh Oh….. The IRS scandal is “about to explode.” There’s a paper trail that leads “all the way to top levels” in D.C.

Hat Tip Joseph Curl


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; alinskygovernment; corruption; criminalpresident; democrats; govtabuse; highcrimes; irs; irsbrownshirts; irsscandals; obama; search; tyranny
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51 posted on 06/04/2013 5:45:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: bert

“There is no IRS scandal. There is IRS crime.”

+1


52 posted on 06/04/2013 5:46:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: grundle

It would be easier to find those that were NOT involved. I’m thinking maybe 2 or 3 in the entire corrupt criminal organization.

It’s time to bulldoze every IRS office and throw every IRS employee out in the streets. SCREW THESE PEOPLE!


53 posted on 06/04/2013 5:54:15 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: grundle

Come on folks......what sane person in America believes that POTUS Obama did not directly spearhead this criminal effort to steal the 2012 election??? Obama and all hi cromies, are dirty & guilty from head to toe!!!


54 posted on 06/04/2013 5:54:28 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: jocon307

I think they need to start indicting some of the lower level people who were involved in these applications, then they’ll start to sing.
+++++++++++
Under a rational system you would be correct. But in this case we would be counting on Eric Holder’s organization to actually do its job.

No chance.


55 posted on 06/04/2013 6:01:13 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: Venturer

We already know that Chuck the Schmuck Schumer and Franken were in on it., that’s pretty high up. Both should be removed from office, for using their office against their opponents. We truly need to get rid of those two a-holes.


Those schmucks are under the Legislative Branch, the IRS is under the Executive (Obama) Branch.


56 posted on 06/04/2013 6:06:27 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: grundle

Earlier versions and plenty of scoffing here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3026949/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3026948/posts


57 posted on 06/04/2013 6:35:05 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: randita; sickoflibs; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; ken5050; thouworm; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS
The IRS targeting of conservatives starts here.

Rahm Emanuel Tightens Grip On Treasury Department / Reported by WSJ / 05/31/09

On Jan. 20, 2009 Timothy Geithner took over as Obama's Secy of the Treasury. Within three weeks, the obama White House tightened its grip by putting Obama's COS--Rahm Emanuel in charge of Treasury---an unusual move.

Since then, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has been so involved in the workings of the Treasury that the phrase "Rahm wants it" has become an unofficial mantra among some govt staff employed at the Treasury, according to government officials.

58 posted on 06/04/2013 6:36:02 AM PDT by Liz
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To: randita
The lower level employees are seething about being blamed.

"Seething" is not enough. Fearing extended incarceration will work much better. Too bad Judge Sirica has passed on.

59 posted on 06/04/2013 6:41:20 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: jocon307
We have yet to hear anyone name a single federal law that was broken in the IRS case ~ no doubt someone will come up with something, but a case being delayed is, in and of itself, not a crime. Happens all the time in fact.

However, you clearly don't understand the government. Unlike the private sector where your boss might have some hiring and firing authority, in the federal government the boss shares only part of that authority with several other layers of management, and with an independent agency called OPM (office of personnel management).

Also, for all the talk of rapid growth of government, they're really talking about state and local governments ~ the federales haven't increased substantially since the 1960s. They have computerized and hired on smarter folks by raising standards, but there's limited growth.

Worse from the standpoint of the employees has been the institution of a flat hierarchical structure ~ you have a boss, a bunch of college grads, and a computer system (with no secretaries or clerks). There may be two more layers of management above them before you get to the top.

One surefire route to promotional success in the federal government is for management ranks to have a higher than average death rate, or earlier than normal retirements!

If you can nail a higher level boss in a crime, that's even better since that'll usually take her out, and several of her cronies.

The only boss to not sandbag is your immediate supervisor.

If you assume you have to threaten the rank and file to get them to talk you are in serious error. Promise them immunity. Promise then a chance for a 1 grade promotion They'll tell you what you need about anybody.

60 posted on 06/04/2013 6:49:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Are you kidding me? The whole equal protection thing was Sh4t on.


61 posted on 06/04/2013 6:56:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: muawiyah
a case being delayed is, in and of itself, not a crime. Happens all the time in fact.

That it "happens all the time", and for the reasons this was done should be a crime.

I look forward to the day a federal bureaucrat sets out to make an example of someone, and gets made an example of in return.

62 posted on 06/04/2013 6:56:38 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: grundle

Someone better be looking for those secret email accounts so popular with this regime.


63 posted on 06/04/2013 6:59:51 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: jocon307
Regarding audits, 30% of the returns audited as recently as 2011 (for 2010 taxes) targeted those claiming EITC.

That's the bottom of the income ladder for people who make enough to pay income taxes.

Congress has dictated that the system run by targeting broad categories of taxpayers. The folks working inside the system know that's how it works, so why would they be surprised to find IRS targeting some other group?

BTW, I"ve been bringing this up for years ~ that IRS is required by Congress to target people and most of the targeting is uproductive. Seriously, how much more money you going to get out of the working poor by auditing them at a rate 30 times normal? Why doesn't Congress devote those resources to the rich who are only audited at a rate 9 times normal?

IRS is a pretty expensive place ~ by design. People must be crazy to work there.

64 posted on 06/04/2013 6:59:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Roccus

Sirica worked for the Establishment. So far no one has come up with a crime and a perp that he’d be interested in anyway.


65 posted on 06/04/2013 7:01:13 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: central_va
How? You do know that once you get your exemption you refile your taxes, and these 501(c)4 operations are only talking about exposure on 10% of the funds they receive that they might not spend in the same tax year.

Those who got approved eventually didn't get hurt in terms of taxation.

Remember, these guys were asking for exemption from federal income taxes ~ I'd like that myself. How long you think my application will take to get approved?

66 posted on 06/04/2013 7:07:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Working Man

A lot of people do that. I always kept what I called a ‘red file’. When I left the company it went with me.


67 posted on 06/04/2013 7:13:30 AM PDT by sheana
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To: tacticalogic
Hmm ~ I see you've never worked in an organization that gets hundreds of thousands of requests for special treatment every year ~ and with limited staff.

You do know taxpayer money goes into dealing with those inquiries. Who should get answered first ~ the guy who sent his application first, or the guy who needs an answer first? ~ ha, ha ~ it's not that simple is it.

We are dealing with something called ADMINISTRATIVE DUE PROCESS which is different than JUDICIAL PROCESS. Sometimes answers are never given ~ but you are free to take it to court. The first thing the judge will decide is how long is long enough. Good luck.

68 posted on 06/04/2013 7:13:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

You’re on my idiot list.


69 posted on 06/04/2013 7:27:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: muawiyah
Hmm ~ I see you've never worked in an organization that gets hundreds of thousands of requests for special treatment every year ~ and with limited staff.

No, I haven't. And I challenge the notion that making people live under a system that makes them dependent on any such organization qualifies as "civilaztion".

70 posted on 06/04/2013 7:34:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: grundle

71 posted on 06/04/2013 7:34:49 AM PDT by BAW (We are the Resistance.)
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To: grundle

The question is does the other side even really care?

Are they Americans or are they ...something else?


72 posted on 06/04/2013 7:36:51 AM PDT by EBH (The government that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: grundle
Emails of top Obama appointees remain a mystery

The scope of using the secret accounts across government remains a mystery: Most U.S. agencies have failed to turn over lists of political appointees' email addresses, which the AP sought under the Freedom of Information Act more than three months ago. The Labor Department initially asked the AP to pay more than $1 million for its email addresses.

They're using secret e-mail addresses to do their dirty work. If they can find those secret e-mails, they can find it all.

73 posted on 06/04/2013 7:43:25 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Travis McGee

74 posted on 06/04/2013 7:51:35 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Liz

Emanuel was appointed as director of the finance committee for Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign. In 1993, he joined the Clinton administration, where he served as the Assistant to the President for Political Affairs and as the Senior Advisor to the President for Policy and Strategy before resigning in 1998. wikepedia

Rahm Emanuel Tightens Grip On Treasury Department / Reported by WSJ / 05/31/09

On Jan. 20, 2009 Timothy Geithner took over as Obama's Secy of the Treasury. Within three weeks, the obama White House tightened its grip by putting Obama's COS--Rahm Emanuel in charge of Treasury---an unusual move.

Since then, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has been so involved in the workings of the Treasury that the phrase "Rahm wants it" has become an unofficial mantra among some govt staff employed at the Treasury, according to government officials..

Liz - you've found the connection. The vast right wing conspiracy and the IRS thing have the same well spring... always seemed there was a Clinton connection. Great find.

75 posted on 06/04/2013 8:53:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (Swedes bring their cars..savages their flames..burning cars a metaphor. D. Greenfield)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Those schmucks are the ones who wrote to the IRS using the power of their office to start these investigations against their opponents.

They abused their office and should be removed from those offices.

Just as Harry Reid is abusing his office.


76 posted on 06/04/2013 9:02:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: grundle

Drudge is due for another red siren. Way too long since the last one.


77 posted on 06/04/2013 9:12:37 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: savedbygrace

From what I can tell, Joseph Curl’s big ‘source’ is JosephCurl@Twitter.com


78 posted on 06/04/2013 10:23:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: muawiyah
That way no one person has so much knowledge or control of the system that he can 'divert' resources or 'custom design' answers of benefit to people who would pay for that to happen.

However, that is exactly what happened, is it not ?

79 posted on 06/04/2013 10:27:14 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Liz; sickoflibs; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; ken5050; thouworm; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS

” (b) Obama placed his COS Rahm Emanuel in control of the US Dept of the Treasury (the IRS).


MEMORIES ARE MADE OF THIS:

Obama said “Tea Parties were a threat to democracy.”

Valerie Jarrett said they “would not forget” which Americans did not worship Obama. “

Thanks for the connection, Liz. Now I see it.


80 posted on 06/04/2013 10:40:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Dont forget late 2009 when Obama declared war on FNC, then 3+ years later we find out that Holder justice department told judges that some FNC reporters were suspected of committing Treason and Espionage


81 posted on 06/04/2013 10:48:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

I didn’t know this. Well, we know from whence the treason emanates.


82 posted on 06/04/2013 11:08:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: UCANSEE2

It is entirely possible Lois Lerner’s husband, or a very close friend of his paid “attention’ to her ~ maybe that’s possible. You be the judge. She has a track record suggesting she’d do this stuff for free ~ but notice please, SHE GOT CAUGHT!


83 posted on 06/04/2013 11:10:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tacticalogic

You do understand I favor recission of the 16th amendment


84 posted on 06/04/2013 11:16:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I'm in favor of that, too.

I'm also in favor of "original intent" interpretation of the Constitution.

Wickard v. Filburn was a constitutional atrocity that has turned the beltway into a regulatory industry that sucks the life out of ordinary people like an army of leeches. The excesses committed under the guise of "regulating commerce" have taught me to hate bureaucrats and bureaucracies.

85 posted on 06/04/2013 11:24:38 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Venturer

The republicans need to attack these two and other politicians who demanded this fiasco and tar and feather them as people who want to disenfranchise voters and oppressors of free speech. No need to play nice, hit’em in the teeth and if the press defends their lackeys they have teeth too! Get the press on camera and ask “journalists” point blank are you journalists or partisans?

Attack! Attack! Attack!

I know, whistling in the wind with the Grand Old Puss Party...


86 posted on 06/04/2013 11:25:17 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: GOPJ; Liz
I believe it was my first post on this particular scandal ~ here's one on May 16, 2013 at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3020140/posts Not a whole lot of Freeper interest then ~ handful of posts. But on May 13, 2013 I had already named Geitner as the big target at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3019062/posts?page=19 and again here on May 13 ~ with my best post yet "but what if they were unaware and it was actually Tim Geithner siccing his goons on the TEAParty ~ he's already got a public record as a tax cheat, and a guy who'd do that would mess around misusing public agencies.
87 posted on 06/04/2013 11:31:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tacticalogic

You should actually hate the judges ~ I, myself, can hardly walk by one of their graves without stopping to relieve myself.


88 posted on 06/04/2013 11:32:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You should actually hate the judges ~ I, myself, can hardly walk by one of their graves without stopping to relieve myself.

I have some for them too, but ultimately every man must be held to acount for his own actions regardless of whether someone else gave him permission or not. They don't get a pass just because some judge or group of judges said it was OK.

89 posted on 06/04/2013 11:36:54 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Yes, they do get a pass because they wouldn’t have thought it up on their own. Judges have become the bane of our existence.


90 posted on 06/04/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Yes, they do get a pass because they wouldn’t have thought it up on their own.

My Mom wouldn't let me get away with that when I was 4, and a neighbor's older son talked me into doing something wrong.

91 posted on 06/04/2013 11:46:06 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Liz; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker

Excellent Liz!

Live link for your WSJ article
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124113406528875137.html

This date may become more significant:

“President Obama announced Friday [Oct 1, 2010] that his brash and hard-charging chief of staff Rahm Emanuel would resign effective immediately, marking the most significant departure to date from the president’s inner circle.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/01/rahm-expected-leave-white-house-chicago-mayor-run/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Other dates for my own recollection but of possible interest to others:

As Liz documented with WSJ article above, Rahm was in control of Treasury by late Jan 2009.

Feb 19, 2009 -— CNBC’s Rick Santelli rant heard round the world
Called for a “Chicago Tea Party” Thursday, leading the charge for calls to revolt against the Obama Administration’s mortgage bailout plan....even the White House mentioned him directly in response to questions about the bailout — not once, not twice, but NINE times
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29283701

Feb 27, 2009 -— Tea Party organizers claim that the first nationwide Tea Party protest took place on February 27, 2009, with coordinated events occurring in more than 40 cities.

April 15, 2009 -— These protests were merely dress rehearsal for the Tea Party events planned for April 15, 2009: tax day. Few can agree on the number of events held throughout the country; the number ranges from 200 to 750, with total attendance ranging from about 250,000 to more than a half-million
http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/tea-party-history.html

Spring/summer 2009 -— Town-hall meetings
Protests against the stimulus package, the bank bailouts, and health-care legislation continued throughout 2009.... During the summer, Tea Party protesters were criticized for their disruptive outbursts during meetings held by members of Congress in their home districts to discuss health-care reform.
http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/tea-party-history.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/908cxoqy.asp

June 2009 -— James Rosen NK article

Fall 2009 -— WH attacks on Fox News escalates
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/12/white-house-escalates-war-words-fox-news/

Jan 19, 2010 -—The movement’s first major victory of the year occurred in January in Massachusetts—perhaps the bluest of the blue states—when Republican Scott Brown defeated Democrat Martha Coakley in the Senate race to fill the seat vacated after the death of Sen. Ted Kennedy.

The ranks of Tea Party members grew in Congress throughout 2010.
http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/tea-party-history.html

Jan. 21, 2010: Citizens United -— The Supreme Court ruled that the government cannot limit corporation or union spending for or against political candidates in this Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission

February 6, 2010: Some say that Sarah Palin assumed the role as #1 Tea Partier when she delivered the keynote address at the first Tea Party Convention in February 2010 in Nashville. Some 600 people attended the full convention, and another 500 sat in on Palin’s speech only.
http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/tea-party-history.html

In fact, Gallup poll in late March 2010 revealed that 28% of Americans have a positive perception of the Tea Party movement.
http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/tea-party-history.html

March 1, 2010: An IRS manager in Cincinnati, Ohio asks employees to begin searching for 501(c) tax exemption applications using the terms Tea Party, Patriots and 9/12 as their criteria.
http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/dean-clancy/irs-targeting-scandal-timeline

May 2010 -— DOJ-—affidavit detailed the effort to get e-mails from the account of Fox News reporter James Rosen. He was not charged in the leak investigation although the document referred to him as a possible co-conspirator.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/03/doj-defends-holders-statement-on-leak-investigation/

Oct 1, 2010 -—”President Obama announced Friday that his brash and hard-charging chief of staff Rahm Emanuel would resign effective immediately, marking the most significant departure to date from the president’s inner circle.”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/01/rahm-expected-leave-white-house-chicago-mayor-run/

October 26, 2010: Determinations Unit personnel emailed concerns about the additional review process for tea party applications to the Technical Unit. This individual follows up in November when response to concern about consistency yields no change.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57584497/the-irs-targeting-controversy-a-timeline/


92 posted on 06/04/2013 12:32:23 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: sarge83

The Republicans could attack them, but the fact is their constituents think they are doing what is right by keeping Republicans out of office.

The Politicians are no worse than the voters hat put them there.


93 posted on 06/04/2013 12:35:59 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: grundle

Soooooo.....when are we going to find out what it is?


94 posted on 06/04/2013 12:39:30 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: thouworm; Liz

Thanks for the ping, and info.


95 posted on 06/04/2013 12:41:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: UCANSEE2

LOL.


96 posted on 06/04/2013 2:25:11 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: June2
When I first started working...way back in the 80’s, the old timers called that the “Pearl Harbor File”.

PS If the auditors can't find it, it never happened! Always keep a copy!

We used to call that "CYA", same idea...

Regards,
GtG

97 posted on 06/04/2013 4:22:26 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Venturer
The entire; embedded; treasonous Left needs to be removed. There can be no significant change; as long as those 'who believe' - not in America; but only in 'changing America by any/all means possible' - remain at their Government stations.

An ideological narcissism at work; whereby these people live to 'recast' our nation; in their inferior image.

98 posted on 06/05/2013 1:51:22 AM PDT by cricket (Push Back Lib Agenda's; Lib propaganda; Lib/Marxist PC; Lib Leaderhship)
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To: Beagle8U
Change the to...”Internal Revenge Service.”

The first thing is to get the word "service" out of there; IRS is anything BUT a service.

99 posted on 06/05/2013 7:14:51 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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