Posted on 06/04/2013 3:36:42 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
Benghazi proves that our intelligence isn’t any better than the people making decisions. 9/11 proves just how bad our decision makers are.
McCain has been a disaster as a Senator. McCain was a disaster as a presidential candidate. Republicans need to get this incompetent man to STFU.
I’m enjoying seeing Cruz and Paul slapping McCain around publicly for his stupid antics. However, McCain being McCain, this will not chasten him. Since he is fueled almost entirely by resentment of slights, real and imagined, this will only harden him into his ‘maverick’ positions.
“I keep asking myself what is in it for McCain if the U.S. gets involved in Syria.
Does he think his wife will get the exclusive rights to a Budweiser Distributorship, or something?”
I keep asking myself why I frequently see photos of McLame and Lindsey Baby together and seldom see a photo of him and his rather attractive wife except during campaigns...
Is there photos?
Haha...
I think he's trying to stay relevant...in his own mind.
I don’t believe McCain has any idea who would replace Assad....I don’t believe McCain has any idea. I took all those extraneous keystrokes out for you. Don’t thank me, it’s not necessary.
McStain belongs in a home not the Senate.
“...McCain is a democrat suicide bomber inside the GOP....”
That has got to be the post of the week...LOL.
McCain’s “Jane Fonda” moment needs to be duly noted by the people of Arizona. How they keep re-elected this POS is way beyound me. In the pic I saw, I love the guy with the assault weapon in the background in the picture. How’s that “common sense” gun control workin’ out for ya over there, Juan? Whadda frickin’ idiot that clown is.
We are between a rock and a very hard spot on Syria. But I think Rand is correct, we should not get involved.
Please expand on that, I have having difficulty understanding what bad decisions our decision makers made re 911.
Its about foreign policy doctrine.
You need to understand that there is not a Republican Foreign Policy Doctrine nor is there a Democrat Foreign Policy Doctrine. Instead, there are competing doctrines, or groups, or schools in both parties.
In the republican party there are Realists, NeoCons, and Isolationists.
In the Democrat Party there are Realists, Liberal Interventionists, and Anti-War Pacifists.
So, McCain is a NeoCon and Rand Paul is a Isolationist.
And it is not just McCain and Paul, how did the Senate Foreign Relations Committee vote on May 22?
It was 15 to 3. 15(republican and democrat) voting to get more involved and 3(republican and democrat) voting to not get involved.
So, on the committee, the NeoCons(R), the Liberal Interventionists(D) and the Realists(R & D) voted yes while the two dem antiwar pacifists and the one GOP Isolationist(Rand Paul) voted no.
Keep in mind that not all Realists support intervening in Syria. Older Realists like Zbig Brezenski(D) and Richard Lugar(R) are opposed. Younger Realists like Corker were previously opposed but eventually shifted to yes.
MestaMachine points out McCains position on Libya, so lets look at that.
There in the late winter early spring 2011, when events in Libya began to unfold, the NeoCon republicans immediately began agitating for Obama to intervene in Libya. This was followed by the very prominent Realist, Bob Gates who was SecDef saying no, Obama will not intervene. But it didn't take very long before the Liberal Interventionist democrats had built the multilateral coalition involving the UN, NATO, and the Arab League so based on that coalition between the NeoCons and the Liberal Interventionists, Obama went into Libya. Then, two very prominent Realists, Henry Kissinger and James Baker warned that Libya could blow up, which it eventually did(Benghazi).
After Obama intervened in Libya, the NeoCons began praising him. Bill Kristol even proclaimed Obama to be a "Born Again NeoCon". They still criticized him saying he should have gone in immediately and by going in multilaterally, he was "leading from behind". Some of the extremist NeoCons like John Bolton said Obama didn't go far enough and he should have put boots on the ground in Libya.
The antiwar pacifist democrats don't have a lot of influence on US foreign policy and the GOP isolationists don't have a lot of influence on US foreign policy.
Policy is determined by NeoCons(R), Liberal Interventionists(D) and Realists(R & D)
Republican presidents' foreign policy team is always made up of Realists and NeoCons while Democrat presidents' foreign policy team is always made up of Realists and Liberal Interventionists.
Republican presidents usually give the job of SecState and NSA to Realists and the SecDef job to a NeoCon while Democrat presidents usually give the job of SecDef and NSA to Realists and the SecState job to a Liberal Interventionist.
We’ve been at war with Islam since before Reagan put troops in Lebanon. Our pols, for one reason or another, have been in denial. 9/11 was the culmination of a series of intelligence failures.
Go read the history starting with Carter’s Iran debacle or Nixon’s oil shocks or the attack against the Marine Barracks in Lebanon under Reagan. Reagan cut and ran. It was dumb to send them in there. The oil shocks rightly should have been seen as an act of war.
Saudi Arabia and the ME oil producers aren’t our friends and it isn’t because America has supported Israel. Islam is diametrically opposed to American liberty and a republican form of government.
Remember the military is a big bureaucracy. It’s politicized and political and militaries always have been. It does the will of the politicians in charge and the CIC.
Did the author of the following quote personally know McCain??
A distant enemy is always preferable to one at the gate.
You’re right, of course. Islam is at war with the world - modernity and liberty, American liberty, are Islam’s enemies.
sigh...Would love to see him bounced out but the stupid AZ voters have consistently voted him back in. He has name recognition which is why he gets back in. Well, that and probably some arm twisting, dirty politics (is there any other kind?). When we moved back here in 2000, there was a recall effort in 2001. Then 9-11 happened and the recall was dropped.
That's the big downside. Islam is a cancer that will grow and kill - first Christians and Jews, then all non-muslims, then all muslims not like the ones in power.
McLame is an idiot.
Assad is a Syrian bastard. The rebels are Muslim bastards. They are even worse.
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