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Connecticut Senate passes bill writing Wright Brothers out of history
FoxNews.com ^ | 6-5-2013 | Jeremy A. Kaplan

Posted on 06/05/2013 10:11:10 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: Gay State Conservative

Wright Brothers...red state.That other clown...Communist state.Nothing to see here folks.

Wright Brothers....purpleish state. That other clown....Communist state. Nothing to see here folks. There fixed it....lol.


101 posted on 06/05/2013 3:33:36 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: servo1969

I always that it was some Greek God who was the first one to fly. the problem he got to high and close to the sun and the wax melted the feathers fell off and he dropped to the ground. the fall did not kill him it was the sudden impact.


102 posted on 06/05/2013 3:34:45 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Excellence
Powered flight is not controlled flight. The Wright Bros. were the first to achieve controlled flight with “wing warping,” the precursors to ailerons.

Not just controlled flight, but sustained flight. The most historically significant happening in the field of flight was the development of a heavier-than-air craft whose airborne range was for all practical purposes limited only by fuel capacity. The Wright Brothers' first powered flight would not have been historically significant but for the fact that it paved the way for sustained flight. Even if someone else could fly with some degree of control before the Wright Brothers did so, such ability would be historically insignificant if they didn't develop the ability to fly for miles at a stretch.

103 posted on 06/05/2013 3:36:50 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Maine Mariner
I wonder why no one has written about it before or that witnesses came forward at the time who saw the flight.

It was also the first use of stealth technology. Plane had a sheet over it.

104 posted on 06/05/2013 3:39:03 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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To: Clemenza

He “claimed”he did it,but never Backed it up.


105 posted on 06/05/2013 4:26:04 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: servo1969

Keep in mind, this coming from the same constitution-hating communist imbeciles that just outlawed .22 rifles. Constitution State, my azz. Communist State would be more like it. This state is being run by the insane.


106 posted on 06/05/2013 4:26:37 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Edison purchased Fergie Jenkins’ patent to keep film from flapping around in movie projectors”

And Fergie still had time to win 284 games and strike out over 3,000 batters! : )


107 posted on 06/05/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

My bad, Charles FRANCIS. Not sure where I got it in my head his name was Ferguson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Francis_Jenkins


108 posted on 06/05/2013 4:32:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: servo1969

Or Dayton, Ohio for that matter. CT really has their heads up their behinds lately.


109 posted on 06/05/2013 4:48:58 PM PDT by soycd
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To: servo1969

CT is going about this in the wrong way. We all know that if you just tell Susan Rice to say it, it will be accepted as fact. Obama better intervene and straighten this out. (Is a sarcasm tag really required?)


110 posted on 06/05/2013 5:11:13 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: cynwoody

That 2003 entry said the Wrights used catapults for takeoff.


111 posted on 06/05/2013 5:21:57 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: SkyDancer

What are your thoughts on this?


112 posted on 06/05/2013 5:23:42 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: MHalblaub

That’s a glider, it doesn’t have its own propulsion.


113 posted on 06/05/2013 5:32:13 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Nepeta

“If it isn’t documented, it didn’t happen.”

Correct. Just like lawyer friends always tells me, it’s not the truth that counts, it’s what evidence and how many witnesses you can stroll into the court room. It’s a frikkin’ drawing for crying out loud.


114 posted on 06/05/2013 6:26:08 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I just finished reading a Tesla biography, "Prodigal Genius: the Life of Nikola Tesla"; by John J. O'Neill. The author actually knew Tesla, a pretty good book if you are interested in Tesla. "Tesla: Man Out of Time"; was another informative book.
115 posted on 06/05/2013 6:26:36 PM PDT by MRadtke (Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
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To: servo1969

When did the Germans bomb Pearl harbor?


116 posted on 06/05/2013 6:28:24 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: max americana

Evidence in Hartford? With the exception of a few Sens. and Reps. they do what the want. Phone calls, letters and email are just to make you feel like they care.


117 posted on 06/05/2013 6:37:14 PM PDT by matt04
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To: servo1969

Hopefully the good folk in NC will mobilize and take out the trash in Conn and remove the restrictive gun laws after they take over.


118 posted on 06/05/2013 6:39:30 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: servo1969
Here is an excellent article on this: http://www.gustave-whitehead.com/history-of-whitehead-critics/scientific-american-early-flights/ Scientific American, Sept. 19, 1903, p.204 "Stanley Yale Beach, grandson of the founder of Scientific American, son of its Editor and himself Aeronautical Editor, wrote five articles in which he credited Whitehead for having flown a powered aeroplane in 1901. Comment: It's hard to imagine how Orville Wright thought he could strengthen his claim to first flight by citing Beach."
119 posted on 06/05/2013 7:27:28 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: Colonel_Flagg

First powered flight...on video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ8jGqdE2iw


120 posted on 06/05/2013 7:35:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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bump


121 posted on 06/05/2013 7:52:42 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: a fool in paradise
Some technologies, such as television had been in the works since the 1890s (with intentions dating back even further).

The development of television is a long story with lots of people working on bits and pieces of it. People were dabbling with broadcasting prior to WW2 in this country, but it was all experimental--hardly any receivers were out there receiving.

What a lot of Americans don't know is how most of the world broadcasts using a different system than we do (different refresh rate,among other things) which nobody cares about here except for fans of foreign movies who would like to watch DVDs from other countries (or American movies not in print here). (There is a fix--there are DVD players that will play any DVD, but you won't find them on retail shelves but in specialty outlets.
122 posted on 06/05/2013 11:14:30 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: morphing libertarian
Mohammed did the first flight by winged horse.

And the horse's name sounds very familiar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq

123 posted on 06/05/2013 11:53:08 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: a fool in paradise; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks a fool in paradise.

The Smithsonian's onetime director was a rival, and kept the Wright's Flyer out of the museum for years. As has been pointed out, claims of priority were and are undocumented without a photo, and the Wrights had a photo.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


124 posted on 06/06/2013 4:14:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: servo1969

Meanwhile, there are calls for the Neo European state of Connecticut to be purged from the American Republic.


125 posted on 06/06/2013 4:20:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Lerner must be tried and executed..... crime against the Republic)
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To: servo1969

Hmmm??? To restore the Wright Brothers to their right place in history... we only need to “discover” they were gay, transexual, lesbian black Hispanics. Then the Connecticut legislature would reverse this law pronto and Wright Brothers would take flight anew.


126 posted on 06/06/2013 7:29:10 AM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: servo1969

Looks like Whitehead was first. However, from what I’ve heard from aeronautical engineers, Whitehead’s plane could not have been scaled up to a bigger version as the Wrights’ aircraft was. We will see more and more documentation that Whitehead was indeed first. The Wright family’s extortion regarding their permission to show the Flyer at the Smithsonian is shameful.


127 posted on 06/06/2013 7:46:09 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

The smithsonian never believed the wright brothers because they paid someone else to be “the first.”


128 posted on 06/06/2013 7:48:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cynwoody

I think that’s just the back end


129 posted on 06/06/2013 8:37:45 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: EGPWS
Tomorrow "The American Revolution" that we all know the French won.

And don't forget, the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. B-P BTW, The Party invented the helicopter, isn't it "doubleplusgood?"
130 posted on 06/06/2013 8:38:41 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Welcome to "1984" 29 years later.....)
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To: IbJensen
Well, whatever. In the heat of agitated anger I lump both states together.

I consider them a part of the "Three Loser States Pact." Delaware, Connecticut and the third is Rhode Island. BTW, Slinky's are useful for one thing at least (see your tagline), they make good radio antennas. Many amateur radio operators have used them as well as our troops in Vietnam.
131 posted on 06/06/2013 8:43:24 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Welcome to "1984" 29 years later.....)
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To: Jack of all Trades

If it has any scientific basis, someone should be able to repeat the flight of that contraption. On the 100th anniversary of the Kitty Hawk flight, I believe there was attempted flight.


132 posted on 06/06/2013 8:51:47 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: MHalblaub; neverdem; cogitator; SunkenCiv; Nachum

OK. So, let’s assume he DID “fly” before the Wright brothers, but some how, despite hundreds of thousands of photographs and camera being available in the CT and US in general sicne teh mid-1860’s, some how nobody took a picture that day, nor write a newspaper story, nor get on the train and get witmesesse that day, nor send any telegraph message back to their sponsors or mother or sister or brother or partner or wife or friends.

What did he do the next day? Sit on his bottom and do nothing either?

Did NOTHING for the next 20 years and NEVER attempt to fly again? NEVER get in front of anybody else and claim multi-thousand dollar competitions and prizes for the first circular flight or longest distance flight or carry passengers or get airmail contracts or get military contracts?

Sure, other people tried to make light bulbs.

But Edison’s light bulb WORKED for many hours. It WAS the first successful light bulb!


133 posted on 06/06/2013 8:55:01 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: servo1969

Lots of people got contraptions into the air and crashed before the Wright Brothers . The Wright Brothers were from Ohio and just used Kitty Hawk because it has the most constant and consistent winds, which they used when developing the Wright glider. North Carolina was the site of the first flight due to an accident of geography.

The Wright Brothers patent claims did not even cover propulsion, even though their propeller and engine introduced a considerable amount of new art. There is simply no doubt that the Wright Brothers were the first to make a controlled flight, and clearly all subsequent successful airframes trace are descended from the Wright Flyer without exception.


134 posted on 06/06/2013 9:42:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: servo1969

They just want to outdo the Indiana legislature as a laughingstock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill


135 posted on 06/06/2013 9:43:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Clemenza
Sorry, but the first true powered flight was Alberto Santos Dumont.

I notice you didn't use the word "controlled".

136 posted on 06/06/2013 9:46:49 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Excellence

Correct. Lots of people got contraptions into the air, the Wright Brothers were light-years ahead of everyone in controlled flight. The Wright Brothers airfoil wings and wing warping with the rudder control to prevent skidding were the decisive inventions that made aviation practical.


137 posted on 06/06/2013 9:51:24 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
4) An unnamed homosexual rather than Michelangelo painted the Sistine chapel due the Catholic Church opposing gay marriage.

As opposed to a homosexual named Michelangelo?

138 posted on 06/06/2013 10:09:58 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Vendome; IbJensen

He’s a carpetbagger. He moved to Delaware because there was too much competition in Pennsylvania. Fact.


139 posted on 06/06/2013 10:14:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: donmeaker; The Great RJ

You clearly do not need a working model (’reduced to art’) but to patentable an invention cannot violate the known ‘laws of physics’, hence no perpetual motion machines.


140 posted on 06/06/2013 10:17:27 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Elisha Gray filed a patent interference the same day as Bell. Gray was on essentially the same track as Bell. Bell had better backers and reduced his design to art sooner.


141 posted on 06/06/2013 10:31:43 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Thanx


142 posted on 06/06/2013 10:38:11 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: longtermmemmory
The smithsonian never believed the wright brothers because they paid someone else to be “the first.”

The Smithsonian supported Samuel Langley as first in flight. This so infuriated the Wright Brothers that they lent the original Wright Flyer to the British Museum. It was repatriated in the early days of World War II to prevent it from being damaged in the Blitz. The deed of gift to the Smithsonian stipulates that the if the Smithsonian ever recognizes anyone else as the inventor of controlled power flight, the Wright Flyer will revert to the Wright Brothers estate.

143 posted on 06/06/2013 10:40:45 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Nepeta

The Wright Brothers had the documentation and they made the airplane commercially viable.Columbus was probably preceded by any number of “discoverers” but he sold America- made it commercially viable. That is what matters


144 posted on 06/06/2013 3:11:58 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (Khach hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“But do the history books still note that the telephone and light bulb were invented by brilliant Russian scientist?”

Brilliant Russian scientist, Comrade Regus Patoff.


145 posted on 06/07/2013 8:20:31 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Jacob Frederick Brodbeck may actually have invented and flown an airplane about 40 years before the Wright brothers.

“His most cherished project, however, was his “air-ship,” which he worked on for twenty years. In 1863 he built a small model with a rudder, wings, and a propeller powered by coiled springs. That year he also moved to San Antonio, where he became a school inspector. Encouraged by the success of his model at various local fairs, Brodbeck set about raising funds to build a full-sized version of his craft that would be capable of carrying a man. He persuaded a number of local men, including Dr. Ferdinand Herff of San Antonio, H. Guenther of New Braunfels and A. W. Engel of Cranes Mill, to buy shares in his project, promising to repay them within six months of selling the patent rights to his machine.

There are conflicting accounts of what happened next. One says that Brodbeck made his first flight in a field about three miles east of Luckenbach on September 20, 1865. His airship, which featured an enclosed space for the “aeronaut,” a water propeller in case of accidental landings on water, a compass, and a barometer, and for which Brodbeck had predicted speeds between 30 and 100 miles per hour, was said to have risen twelve feet in the air and traveled about 100 feet before the springs unwound completely and the machine crashed to the ground. Another account, however, says that the initial flight took place in San Pedro Park, San Antonio, where a bust of Brodbeck was later placed. Yet another account reports that the flight took place in 1868, not 1865. All the accounts agree, however, that Brodbeck’s airship was destroyed by its abrupt landing, although the inventor escaped serious injury.
(From the Texas State Historical Association)


146 posted on 06/07/2013 8:25:41 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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Thanks Robert A. Cook, PE.
147 posted on 06/07/2013 6:25:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: wildbill; servo1969; ClearCase_guy; N. Theknow; cumbo78; Maine Mariner; a fool in paradise; ...

;’) And it’s getting even worse for the Wright Brothers:

First Flight in America, 1757
http://www.celebrateboston.com/first/human-flight.htm


148 posted on 06/07/2013 6:33:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3028784/posts
149 posted on 06/07/2013 6:40:41 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: SunkenCiv

First powered, sustained flight. I don’t see how a glider fits into powered.


150 posted on 06/07/2013 7:03:21 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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