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Connecticut Senate passes bill writing Wright Brothers out of history
FoxNews.com ^ | 6-5-2013 | Jeremy A. Kaplan

Posted on 06/05/2013 10:11:10 AM PDT by servo1969

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To: Jeff Head

Interesting that politicians can change history by legislation.

We aren’t talking about “recognizing the equality of races” or even “equality of all sexual preferences”. We are talking about the time/date/origins of an event.

What about leaving it to “consensus”?


51 posted on 06/05/2013 10:43:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: servo1969
No man's life, liberty or property are safe when the Legislature is in session. Now add to that list sanity.

There were many early flight pioneers, but the Wright's documented their flight and quickly developed controlled powered flight. Whitehead may or may not have flown before the Wright brothers, but one photo, now apparently lost, and no other good documentation of the feat doesn't give him much credibility.

52 posted on 06/05/2013 10:45:09 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Forty-Niner; IbJensen

Bide was born in Scranton, PA and lives in Delaware ....


53 posted on 06/05/2013 10:45:11 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Well, whatever. He’s an imbecile regardless of whatever state claims him.


54 posted on 06/05/2013 10:45:56 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Tesla did understand American humor. He knew Mark Twain.


55 posted on 06/05/2013 10:45:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: IbJensen

My mistake....


56 posted on 06/05/2013 10:47:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: servo1969

Wright Brothers...red state.That other clown...Communist state.Nothing to see here folks.


57 posted on 06/05/2013 10:48:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: The Great RJ
Heard some pair on NPR trying to shake down podcasters for money for having podcasts. They claim that they invented it in the 1990s. Except they didn't have a working protype device (at least from what I heard in the interview). It was pre-ipod then. They fell back to using cassette tapes.

I thought you can't patent an idea, that the patent goes to the first WORKING prototype.

58 posted on 06/05/2013 10:48:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: servo1969
This pi$$ing match has been going on for eon's and I have been @ aviation get-togethers in CT where this was discussed.

But think controlled flight, if my memory was correct, Whitehead's aircraft was a kludge, no control, end of story.

The problem is now the CT legislator has confirmed the know as little about aviation as they do about firearms...

59 posted on 06/05/2013 10:52:07 AM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: taildragger

All of New England sucks so bad I am not sure how any aircraft gets airborne.


60 posted on 06/05/2013 10:54:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: servo1969

Liberals, always leading their actions through emotions. They want to believe this so it must be true, facts be damned.


61 posted on 06/05/2013 10:54:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: servo1969

Nonsense. I don’t buy any of this.


62 posted on 06/05/2013 10:56:16 AM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: servo1969

According to the new PC NASA, it was a muslim who pioneered powered flight.


63 posted on 06/05/2013 10:58:17 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: servo1969
Whitehead's Wikipedia entry in 2003 vs now.
64 posted on 06/05/2013 11:00:19 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: servo1969
In March, aviation historian John Brown unveiled what he calls photographic proof that Whitehead flew over Connecticut in 1901, “two years, four months, and three days before the Wright brothers.”

Was somebody holding up a newspaper?

65 posted on 06/05/2013 11:01:15 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: ClearCase_guy

No no no, you’ve got it all wrong: the telephone and light bulb were invented by the closet Muslim (Al-)Thomas Edisonri,way way back at his scientific complex/mosque in
Mahmood Park, NJ. The most irritating part of all this type of stuff, which occurs weekly if not daily in Congress is that these exercises in “stolen valor” are accepted as part of what a State Senator does, and proudly.I remember a black Congressman from the South Side of Chicago,Gus Savage, back in the 70s when I lived there, whose SOLE focus of his career year after year, was submitting bill after bill based on honoring the boxing champ Joe Louis (libraries, parks,etc.)


66 posted on 06/05/2013 11:02:44 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: ssaftler

Not that long. Westinghouse aquired Tesla’s patents. Tesla was compensated for them.


67 posted on 06/05/2013 11:03:07 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Reisling, of Gelhhausen Germany.


68 posted on 06/05/2013 11:03:52 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Hardraade

Mohammed had a horse and it jumped clear from Medina to Jerusalem one night.

Didn’t you know that Al Asqua mosque is where the horse landed (and dropped some road apples)?


69 posted on 06/05/2013 11:05:45 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: supremedoctrine

Thomas Edison’s “last breath” has been preserved in Dearbornistan, Michigan so perhaps he really was a muslim!

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2118


70 posted on 06/05/2013 11:06:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: a fool in paradise

The patent office hasn’t required a working prototype for about 100 years.

I never had a prototype of my patent, nor was there interest in the patent office in seeing one.


71 posted on 06/05/2013 11:07:36 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: servo1969

I figured they were going to tell us...that first powered flight was done by Islamists


72 posted on 06/05/2013 11:12:54 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Life is a bitch. If it was easy, we would call it a slut)
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To: Pollster1

That thing would never fly unless the airfoils on the paddle wheel had some kind of cyclic pitch control. Even with that, it doesn’t look like it would fly. No way could those propellers generate enough thrust (IMHO) and the thing looks like it would stall instantly.


73 posted on 06/05/2013 11:13:52 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: N. Theknow

It was a black from Kenya


74 posted on 06/05/2013 11:14:28 AM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: servo1969

So the CT legislature bends over backwards to promote a dubious claim of minor historical interest, yet they wouldn’t dream of celebrating the state’s PIVOTAL role in the firearms industry.


75 posted on 06/05/2013 11:16:15 AM PDT by montag813
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To: The Great RJ

The Wrights did a lot more than be the first. It took a number of years to convince the world they could do what they had actually done. Convincing a skeptical world was in many ways one of the most amazing stories in history. First in America then in Europe. Even if they weren’t the first they blazed the trail for aviation and essentially laid the foundation. There is no disputing that part.


76 posted on 06/05/2013 11:16:40 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Pollster1
My bad, this looks like a photograph of the thing on the ground.

In the drawing, it looked like it had steam boat style paddle wheels. It has propellers. Still, those wings would tear right off.

77 posted on 06/05/2013 11:29:22 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: donmeaker

thanx


78 posted on 06/05/2013 11:45:19 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: servo1969

I once read it was some guy in Australia.


79 posted on 06/05/2013 11:46:16 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Jack of all Trades
That thing would never fly unless the airfoils on the paddle wheel had some kind of cyclic pitch control. Even with that, it doesn’t look like it would fly. No way could those propellers generate enough thrust (IMHO) and the thing looks like it would stall instantly.

Supposedly, it had 3-axis control, and replicas have been built and flown.

Also, there is evidence of a government cover-up. It turns out the Smithsonian attempted to hide a contract with the Wright family dating from 1948, as documented in the 1978 book History by Contract, by William J. O'Dwyer and Stella Randolph. From a review:

This book accurately reveals that there is a real legal contract between the heirs to the Orville Wright estate and the Smithsonian Institution, which forbids Smithsonian from recognizing anyone else as flying first. This contract has paralyzed early aviation history research in the USA. The book is a must read, and well done, with loads of original documents and information confirming that Gustave Whitehead of Bridgeport and Fairfield, CT, actually flew before the Wright Bros, by two years. The book explains in detail how Smithsonian has fought the evidence, due to the contract. To view the Contract and other proof of Whitehead flying first, go to www.gustave-whitehead.com. I rate this book an A+ and wish a reprint would occur. For more info on this book go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_by_Contract. I am reviewing this book on 4/8/13.

80 posted on 06/05/2013 11:46:24 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Osage Orange

Mohammed did the first flight by winged horse. Peace be upon him and the Hero of Benghazi

Can’t wait for the movie.


81 posted on 06/05/2013 11:47:05 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: servo1969

There were lots of contenders for the title of first powered flight, including the Ezekiel Airship which was alleged to fly in East Texas back in 1902. A full-sized replica has been displayed in a museum for years to convince the sceptics.

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11610

Regardless of claimants, the Wrights stood out from the dreamers and crackpots and took flying from dreams to actual practicality.


82 posted on 06/05/2013 11:55:24 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: morphing libertarian

In 1860 Johann Philipp Reis was the first who produced a functioning electromagnetic device that could transmit musical notes, indistinct speech, and occasionally distinct speech by means of electric signals. Reis also introduced the term “telephon” for his device. The first sentence spoken on it was “Das Pferd frisst keinen Gurkensalat” (the horse doesn’t eat cucumber salad). In the Reis transmitter, a diaphragm was attached to a needle that pressed against a metal contact. This resembled the make-or-break design of Bourseul, although Reis used the term “molecular motion” (molekulare Bewegung) to describe the contact points of his transmitter.[3] The Reis transmitter was very difficult to operate, since the relative position of the needle and the contact were critical to the device’s operation. This can be called a “telephone”, since it did transmit voice sounds electrically over distance, but was hardly a commercially practical telephone in the modern sense, as it failed to reliably transmit a good copy of any supplied sound.


83 posted on 06/05/2013 12:03:30 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: TexasRepublic
There were lots of contenders for the title of first powered flight, including the Ezekiel Airship which was alleged to fly in East Texas back in 1902.

The history of powered flight in Texas dates back to 1865.

The Brodbeck Airship. First flight 40 years before Wright Brothers

84 posted on 06/05/2013 12:10:34 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Le Chien Rouge
Coming soon: 1) A jew named Albert Einstein stole everything from Islam. 2) Blacks in Africa invented the printing press but it was stolen by a white supremacist named Gutenberg. 3) Mexicans built the Hoover Dam but it was stolen by Yankee Imperialists. 4) An unnamed homosexual rather than Michelangelo painted the Sistine chapel due the Catholic Church opposing gay marriage.

And you know all that stuff supposedly written by Shakespeare? It was actually written by another man with the same name.

85 posted on 06/05/2013 12:14:54 PM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: servo1969

“Research work conducted on Whitehead has included that of Stella Randolph, a journalist–educator inspired and informed by aviation buff Harvey Phillips in the 1930s and supported by Professor John B. Crane’s articles from 1936–1949. Researchers from 1963 and forward have included: Major William O’Dwyer (ret.) of the U.S. Air Force Reserve in cooperation with the Connecticut Aeronautical Historical Association (CAHA); Harold Dolan, a Sikorsky Aircraft engineer and vice president–secretary of the CAHA.”

courtesy “Legacy” section at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Whitehead#References

Sikorsky Aircraft (part of United Technologies today, is located in Stratford Connecticut.

Connecticut is “bringing it home” me thinks.

In addition to Whitehead, Igor Sikorsky, the founder of Sikorsky Aircraft in 1923, had a number of his own aviation firsts.

Sikorsky designed and flew the world’s first multi-engine fixed-wing aircraft, the Russky Vityaz in 1913, and the first airliner, Ilya Muromets, in 1914. (he was Russian, lived in Russia at the time and immigrated to the U.S. in 1919). And later developed and developed the first of Pan American Airways’ ocean-conquering flying boats in the 1930s. In 1939 Sikorsky designed and flew the Vought-Sikorsky VS-300,[3] the first viable American helicopter, which pioneered the rotor configuration used by most helicopters today. Sikorsky would modify the design into the Sikorsky R-4, which became the world’s first mass-produced helicopter in 1942.

courtesy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky


86 posted on 06/05/2013 12:18:42 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Jack of all Trades
Still, those wings would tear right off.

Just because some contraption looks like it would never fly, doesn't mean it won't.

Yves Rossy, the Jetman. Reportedly, the wings and engines weight 120 lbs. The four engines are JetCat P200's, delivering 50 lbs of thrust each. Fuel economy good enough for eight minutes over the Grand Canyon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSgrzMQv2Mc

87 posted on 06/05/2013 12:22:32 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: servo1969

Wright Bros. were white. So, I assume it is in vogue to write out of history the Wright Bros. and other whites. Perhaps they could re-write history and declare that the first in flight was, say “Tyrone Jackson Washington — a freed slave from North Carolina.


88 posted on 06/05/2013 12:36:43 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: servo1969

God said that they would rewrite history towards the end times.


89 posted on 06/05/2013 12:41:50 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: Drawsing
And you know all that stuff supposedly written by Shakespeare? It was actually written by another man with the same name.

Whaddaya mean "man?"


90 posted on 06/05/2013 12:46:00 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein)
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To: servo1969
In the name of political correctness, it is only a matter of time before the images below are modified to properly reflect America's multi-cultural diversity, the same way New York City modified the statue of the three white firefighters who planted the flag at Ground Zero in 2001.

The nation has been surrendered to hordes of invading locusts with scarcely a fight.
America is dead and gone. The Democrats won. Congratulations to them.


91 posted on 06/05/2013 12:53:08 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: cynwoody

Hmmm, interesting...


92 posted on 06/05/2013 1:00:22 PM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: cynwoody

That’s the coolest flying machine ever built IMHO


93 posted on 06/05/2013 1:01:11 PM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: donmeaker

Thanx. I’m a lazy researcher researcher. So, this is the German guy?

I mentioned that someone got to the patent office before Bell. I thought it was an American. They way some author explained it on C-SPAN BookTv was that Bell had an in at the office and they gave him the patent.

Don’t remember the other guys name.


94 posted on 06/05/2013 2:48:55 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

That would be Elisha Gray.


95 posted on 06/05/2013 2:49:30 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

Thanks again. That’s why I love this site.


96 posted on 06/05/2013 2:52:57 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: TexasRepublic

Zeppelin did a good job with powered flight too. He used lift bags rather than wings, and pattented his approach in the US by 1899.

Zeppelin’s approach led to organized transatlantic flights. By mid-1914, DELAG had carried over 34,000 passengers on over 1,500 flights. In the 1930s airships regularly serviced North America and Brazil.


97 posted on 06/05/2013 3:14:39 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
Yes, they liked to fly...


98 posted on 06/05/2013 3:23:29 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: IbJensen

I don’t know why you are upset. I would rather have the truth of who flew first. Why do you insist on wrong information?


99 posted on 06/05/2013 3:26:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Jack of all Trades
Still, those wings would tear right off.

Just try this link and look at the glider there: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Lilienthal

100 posted on 06/05/2013 3:27:47 PM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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