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Lindsey Graham Isnít Sure If Bloggers Are Protected by First Amendment
American Prowler ^ | 6.5.13 | KAYLIN BUGOS

Posted on 06/05/2013 3:36:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway

At a press conference today, he wasn’t sure if bloggers deserved First Amendment protections:

“Who is a journalist is a question we need to ask ourselves,” he said. “Is any blogger out there saying anything—do they deserve First Amendment protection? These are the issues of our times.”

SNIP

A few candidates’ names have been brought up repeatedly, the most notable of which is Rep. Trey Gowdy, from South Carolina’s 4th district. Gowdy is well-known for being a conservative bulldog in the House and has highlighted his political skills recently during his grilling of Lois Lerner. In a fight between Gowdy and Graham, Gowdy might be a good bet.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: lindseygraham; nancymace; randsconcerntrolls; rinokeywordcowards; southcarolina
If the First Amendment doesn't apply to bloggers, ot doesn't apply to any of us?
1 posted on 06/05/2013 3:36:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Well.. Bloggers.. really?


2 posted on 06/05/2013 3:38:42 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: nickcarraway

I`m not sure if Lindsey is heterosexual .


3 posted on 06/05/2013 3:38:54 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (t ask the BIG question,)
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To: nickcarraway

in other words he hasn’t been paid enough yet


4 posted on 06/05/2013 3:39:20 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: nickcarraway

Wow. These guys are running our country.


5 posted on 06/05/2013 3:39:29 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: nickcarraway

If it doesn’t apply to bloggers, then it doesn’t apply to elected officials or special interest groups, or professional organizations, or to any Government entity or agency.

Either everyone has 1st Amendment protection or no one does. The whittling away of our Rights is going to stop one way or another. My sincere recommendation is that our Government stop on their own before the Citizens stop it for them.


6 posted on 06/05/2013 3:40:04 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: nickcarraway
I think this will be the new line of Constitutional reading:

The Second Amendment only applies to the militia, and by analogy, the First Amendment only applies to a comparable group. (In this case the media).
It's brilliant for them, because not only do they get away with suppressing speech they don't like, it makes their Second Amendment stronger.
"Those civil rights were only intended for a select group, i.e. the militia and the media.

7 posted on 06/05/2013 3:40:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Only if you swam or snuck across the border.
8 posted on 06/05/2013 3:40:39 PM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: nickcarraway

First amendment doesn’t apply to anyone who isn’t a journalist.

Yet abortion is protected as a privacy right.

What bullcrap.


9 posted on 06/05/2013 3:40:44 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: BCR #226

No, the new theory is the media has it, but not anyone else.


10 posted on 06/05/2013 3:40:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Para-Ord.45

I’m not sure if Graham is human. Like any establishment animal.


11 posted on 06/05/2013 3:41:48 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama equals Osama))
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To: a fool in paradise

Why is this man representing South Carolina? Isn’t this an impeachable offense? In the past, even the left has agreed with the First Amendment. If Graham is declaring war on it, can’t he be removed?


12 posted on 06/05/2013 3:42:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
That's similar to this comment from last year. Commentary delivered by Ann Barnhardt.
13 posted on 06/05/2013 3:42:35 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: nickcarraway

So Graham has now proved himself to be as much of a complete ignoramus as Dick Durban.

There is no such thing as THE PRESS in the sense that term is used by elitist Progressives today — some sort of elite group whose members are allowed preferential treatment under law. In the Constitutional sense, “the press” is a technological device for disseminating information.

One cannot be a “member” of the press. One can only have access to a press.

Any device which enables one to state and publicize one’s views is a “press,” whether it be moveable type, offset, TV, radio, or the Internet. We all have free access to “the press,” meaning we have the right to pay any provider who wishes to sell us access to publicize our ideas.

In this regard, no CBS anchor has anymore claim to special treatment for being part of “the press” than does any blogger.


14 posted on 06/05/2013 3:45:23 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: nickcarraway

Psssst! Linda! We all have first amendment rights. Second amendment too. Keep pushing; you’ll get a demonstration.


15 posted on 06/05/2013 3:45:39 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: nickcarraway

Graham is a growing disgrace.


16 posted on 06/05/2013 3:46:11 PM PDT by Amagi (Obama is never so animated as when he is assaulting the Constitution.)
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To: nickcarraway

Poor Lindsay. He’s just not very bright, is he?

You don’t have to be an “official journalist” to be protected by the First Amendment. Any speech by an American citizen (and usually, as a somewhat dubious extension, by a non-citizen) is protected by it.


17 posted on 06/05/2013 3:47:13 PM PDT by livius
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To: nickcarraway
What kind of name is Lindsey Graham?

Is that like some kinds rich bratty name?

Did his folks really want a girl?

Lindsey Graham at 12 years old.

18 posted on 06/05/2013 3:50:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nickcarraway

Nuts to you, Linseed.


19 posted on 06/05/2013 3:51:40 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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Come and get me lindsay graham. Am tired of the games!


20 posted on 06/05/2013 3:56:20 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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Dear lindsay,

All I have left is the wind-walkers and the code talkers. You and your ilk would not understand being you hate Freedom. Being in the same camp as the zer0 crowd, I speak not to you and yours.

21 posted on 06/05/2013 3:59:53 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Maceman
There is no such thing as THE PRESS in the sense that term is used by elitist Progressives today — some sort of elite group whose members are allowed preferential treatment under law. In the Constitutional sense, “the press” is a technological device for disseminating information.

One cannot be a “member” of the press. One can only have access to a press.

Any device which enables one to state and publicize one’s views is a “press,” whether it be moveable type, offset, TV, radio, or the Internet. We all have free access to “the press,” meaning we have the right to pay any provider who wishes to sell us access to publicize our ideas.

Brilliant -- and well-expressed -- insight.

In other words, the pamphleteer Thomas Paine was the equivalent of a blogger.

22 posted on 06/05/2013 4:02:05 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: Para-Ord.45
I`m not sure if Lindsey is heterosexual .

According to this database, it's a matter of dispute.

23 posted on 06/05/2013 4:05:09 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: okie01

Ah ooh ...


24 posted on 06/05/2013 4:06:14 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: nickcarraway

Graham is so beatable. Anyone running against him already has the anti-illegal alien groups running ads against him in SC. We still have too many folks making excuses to keep Graham


25 posted on 06/05/2013 4:08:00 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: nickcarraway
Damn.... Is there a week goes bye that does not have Swishy Lindsay Graham or John McNasty taking a full-fledged swipe at the fiber of the American culture?

I really have nothing but disgust for these two characters....

26 posted on 06/05/2013 4:10:37 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: nickcarraway

Hmmm. A First Amendment for only those with high incomes and social credentials (political correctness). Fathers divorced by their wives used web sites to criticize courts during the ‘90s and were threatened with jail (contempt).

Then the political/regulator class saturated the world with the word, blog, to violate the First Amendment right of every small-time news and opinion writer. The word sounds nasty, and it is used as a linguistic activism tactic.


27 posted on 06/05/2013 4:11:04 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: okie01

Thank you. By the way, the most famous pamphleteer of the American Revolution was Thomas Paine, who never made a living as a professional journalist.


28 posted on 06/05/2013 4:19:33 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: nickcarraway

I guess the Senator isn’t as smart as a fifth grader.


29 posted on 06/05/2013 4:19:45 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: nickcarraway
he wasn’t sure if bloggers deserved First Amendment protections:

DESERVE?

Free speech is a right, not an earned reward from the White House, Group of 8, or the government.

What is behind this is a White House goal to get "real journalists" licensed, and thus allow legal restraints on bloggers the politicians do not like. It will be the end of a free press with the freedom to write and publish what they please.

30 posted on 06/05/2013 4:26:21 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Get a special prosecutor right now!!!)
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To: nickcarraway
he wasn’t sure if bloggers deserved First Amendment protections:

DESERVE?

Free speech is a right, not an earned reward from the White House, Group of 8, or the government.

What is behind this is a White House goal to get "real journalists" licensed, and thus allow legal restraints on bloggers the politicians do not like. It will be the end of a free press with the freedom to write and publish what they please.

31 posted on 06/05/2013 4:31:29 PM PDT by Rapscallion (Get a special prosecutor right now!!!)
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To: nickcarraway; alarm rider; Alex1977; at bay; Babsig; BILL_C; bnelson44; ColdOne; DesScorp; ...
Linda proves once again... she a complete doofus in clown's clothing.

Uber RINO Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."


Want on or off this ping list?
Just FReepmail me.

h/t to martin_fierro for the graphic

32 posted on 06/05/2013 4:31:36 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: nickcarraway
I don't recall the 1st Amendment using the the word “journalist” either, so maybe it doesn't include them.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, OR of the press, or the right of the people to peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

If nothing else, blogs ought to be considered petitions of grievance.

33 posted on 06/05/2013 4:34:42 PM PDT by PsyOp (Put government in charge of tire pressure, and we'll soon have a shortage of air. - PsyOp.)
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To: nickcarraway

This egghead Graham needs a 20 year vacation at his own expense


34 posted on 06/05/2013 4:37:22 PM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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To: Maceman
Any device which enables one to state and publicize one’s views is a “press,” whether it be moveable type, offset, TV, radio, or the Internet. We all have free access to “the press,” meaning we have the right to pay any provider who wishes to sell us access to publicize our ideas.

Right. The First Amendment has "or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press". Would one argue that speaking freely is only for members of a "speech" organization?

35 posted on 06/05/2013 4:37:31 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: nickcarraway

If Graham is declaring war on it, can’t he be removed?

YES! By the voters, if they have the will to do it.


36 posted on 06/05/2013 4:40:24 PM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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To: nickcarraway

Republicans like Lindsey were put here by the Devil to make it easier for leftists.


37 posted on 06/05/2013 4:40:58 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: PapaBear3625
Would one argue that speaking freely is only for members of a "speech" organization?

Excellent observation.

This kind of thinking falls in line with those who claim the 2nd amendment applies only to an "organized" group (militia).


38 posted on 06/05/2013 4:45:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: nickcarraway

Miz Lindsey Graham-McCain is an idiot.


39 posted on 06/05/2013 4:52:43 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: nickcarraway

Bloggers don’t have freedom of speech?

What brand of idiot thinks that way?


40 posted on 06/05/2013 5:10:01 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: nickcarraway
Hmmm... think that he got together with Durbin on this nonsense?

Durbin Not Sure if Bloggers Deserve Constitutional Protection

41 posted on 06/05/2013 5:13:06 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: dragnet2

LOL


42 posted on 06/05/2013 5:22:22 PM PDT by funfan
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To: nickcarraway

What an asshat.


43 posted on 06/05/2013 5:22:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: nickcarraway
I think this will be the new line of Constitutional reading:

The Second Amendment only applies to the militia, and by analogy, the First Amendment only applies to a comparable group. (In this case the media).

The first amendment only applies to single sheet, hand operated single color printing presses, not the high speed, fully automatic assault presses on which newspapers and magazines are printed today. That is if you went by the same logic as those who say that the second applies only to muskets.

44 posted on 06/05/2013 5:43:24 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: nickcarraway

Trey Gowdy, please primary this asshat for the good of the entire country.


45 posted on 06/05/2013 6:01:49 PM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: PsyOp
abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press....

It is or should be obvious that the founders were referring to the freedom of expression whether by spoken or written word. Both methods were given equal protection. The Courts have confirmed the freedom of expression idea in cases involving art (or so called art) such as the infamous Piss Christ and in demonstrations involving flag burning and other acts of non verbal or non written expression. The efforts to enact a shield law for members of a given profession or employees of certain business is not very wise and actually has nothing to do with the first amendment.

46 posted on 06/05/2013 6:33:40 PM PDT by etcb
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To: humblegunner

Proving Graham is a mirror of any Marxist Democrat

with a sex change.


47 posted on 06/05/2013 7:55:19 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: nickcarraway

I’m sure they would like it to be that way. Too bad it isn’t. When politicians decree to deprive Americans of their Civil Rights, those politicians should immediately lose their position and they should lose their Rights.

I don’t know why politicians have been pushing to restrict our Rights as much as they have recently but I’m not complying with their crap any more. Our Government is out of control and our elected officials need to be knocked down a few pegs to reality.

What is happening now is untenable.


48 posted on 06/05/2013 9:44:28 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: nickcarraway

Graham is a techno illiterate.

200+ years ago a blogger was just the person who stood on a soap box in the town square.

graham just does not like talk of being primaried.


49 posted on 06/06/2013 8:19:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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