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Navy Scuttles All-Cap Messages
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Posted on 06/06/2013 5:20:20 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Navy Scuttles All-Cap Messages By Michael Hoffman Thursday, June 6th, 2013 5:30 pm Posted in Naval

WE DON’T HAVE TO SEND MESSAGES THIS WAY ANYMORE, the Navy has decided.

Word went out from the Navy’s Fleet Cyber Command on May 8 that the Navy’s internal messaging system now had the ability to transmit in lower case as well as the traditional upper case letters.

“Therefore, it is not necessary to limit Navy messages entirely to upper case,” said the directive, first reported by the Navy Times. Of course, the message saying that upper case was no longer needed went out this way: “THEREFORE, IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO LIMIT NAVY MESSAGES ENTIRELY TO UPPER CASE.”

Alone among the services, the Navy has been using all capitals for internal administrative messages from the routine to the emergency going back more than a century to the days when teletype machines only sent capitals.

The reasoning behind the change was that messages in lower and upper case were easier to read, Navy officials said. Another factor was that younger recipients of all-cap messages might tend to think that the person sending them was SCREAMING AT THEM AND REALLY TICKED OFF.

“The capability has been there for about a year” to send routine messages in lower case, said Lt. Joseph Holstead, a spokesman for the Cyber Command. The next step will be to expand that capability to secret and top secret messages, possibly in August, Holstead said.

“There are still a couple of legacy systems out there that we’ll have to convert,” probably in mid-2014, Holstead said.


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Just think of the millions saved!

We're GREEN!

1 posted on 06/06/2013 5:20:20 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

THE WORLD WONDERS


2 posted on 06/06/2013 5:21:42 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Air raid. Pearl Harbor. This is not a drill.”

Doesn’t have the same...note.


3 posted on 06/06/2013 5:23:13 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh puh-leeze. Is this what constitutes a priority now for the Navy that it warrants a press release on the subject?

Such sad times we find ourselves in.


4 posted on 06/06/2013 5:23:24 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“now hear this”

Yeah, that’ll work


5 posted on 06/06/2013 5:24:44 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Sub-Driver
younger recipients of all-cap messages might tend to think that the person sending them was SCREAMING AT THEM AND REALLY TICKED OFF.

poor babies... bunch of over sensitive hot house flowers

6 posted on 06/06/2013 5:26:29 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Sub-Driver

All caps were obsolete in 1995 (end of electronic scanning), and that format was always a pain in the ass to read, and often confusing. It only took 20 years to move on.


7 posted on 06/06/2013 5:27:01 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SueRae

I’m certain that somewhere in the bowels of the Pentagon, somebody felt the old template was unfair to the lower case letters.


8 posted on 06/06/2013 5:27:15 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I’m certain that somewhere in the bowels of the Pentagon, somebody felt the old template was unfair to the lower case letters.

Now THAT is funny.

9 posted on 06/06/2013 5:29:16 PM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: The KG9 Kid

All caps was the only way to get the attention of guys like Halsey.


10 posted on 06/06/2013 5:32:02 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sub-Driver

NO!


11 posted on 06/06/2013 5:32:35 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: SueRae

Hey at least the press release wasn’t in caps..............so there!


12 posted on 06/06/2013 5:32:57 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver

Actually, CAPS were used originally because teletype machines for crypto work only had caps and later on the early computers were built around six-bit codes that limited the number of characters, numbers, and symbols to 64. Since most coded messages were in blocks of letters, like SDAAW SSNKL QWHHJ, it reduced ambiguities and confusion to use caps. For example, small letters like q, p, g could be easily misread on old typewriters and teletypes when the ribbons dried up.


13 posted on 06/06/2013 5:34:52 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Sub-Driver
Another factor was that younger recipients of all-cap messages might tend to think that the person sending them was SCREAMING AT THEM AND REALLY TICKED OFF.

It's the Navy. It is screaming at them and really ticked off.

14 posted on 06/06/2013 5:35:16 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LMAO.... or perhaps, lmao.


15 posted on 06/06/2013 5:37:17 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Sub-Driver

.SDRAWKCAB DNA SPAC LLA ETAH I


16 posted on 06/06/2013 5:37:43 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: Riley

That one would be in all caps, regardless of the era.


17 posted on 06/06/2013 5:38:34 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Sub-Driver
Capital idea!
18 posted on 06/06/2013 5:41:10 PM PDT by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: bigbob

Yep, but this works better:)

“NOW HEAR THIS”

“ALL SWEEPERS MAN YOUR BROOMS. GIVE HER A GOOD SWEEP DOWN FORE AND AFT. DO NOT THROWN TRASH OVER THE FANTAIL.”

“THAT IS ALL”


19 posted on 06/06/2013 5:52:33 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Drango

It was bound to happen sooner or later. Should have seen it coming when they replaced Mr. Hands in CATCC with a computer screen.


20 posted on 06/06/2013 5:53:14 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Sub-Driver
Now, we just need weather services to follow suit. The use of all-caps goes back to TeleType days, and telegraph messages before that. The technology for using lower-case letters too has been around for decades now. Using all-caps seems to have just become a habit -- or even an actual cultural "meme". Change is overdue.

Some people think all-caps is like SHOUTING! It's also very difficult to read a large amount of ALL-CAPS TEXT. Most adults don't read words letter-by-letter -- they "read" the whole word by its shape. The words in ALL-CAPS are mainly simple rectangles, so the shape of the whole word doesn't help you read it. OTOH, lower-case words can be read by their shape alone -- you don't need to see the individual letters. Reading lower-case is faster and easier than ALL-CAPS. (I know there is some controversy about why this is -- but, people do read mixed-case text faster than ALL-CAPS.)




21 posted on 06/06/2013 5:57:46 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Sub-Driver

RIDICULOUS. TTY MACHINES DON’T USE LOWER CASE FOR THE SAME REASON REAL MEN DON’T ASK FOR DIRECTIONS - BECAUSE THEY DON’T NEED TO. WHAT THE HECK HAS HAPPENED TO MY NAVY INTERROGATIVE. THESE YOUNG PUNKS ARE EVEN TRYING TO FLY AEROPLANES OFF THE DECKS OF PERFECTLY GOOD DREADNOUGHTS. RIDICULOUS. EOT.


22 posted on 06/06/2013 6:00:38 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sub-Driver

After all those messages I typed for 24 years....Yeah! lol.


23 posted on 06/06/2013 6:04:50 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Semaphore to now only use one flag!

Morse Code reduced to only dots!

Aldis Lamp to now operate without any shutter!


24 posted on 06/06/2013 6:06:39 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Sub-Driver

NOW it makes sense:

It’s the OLD SALTS that do the all caps in the forums I visit...


25 posted on 06/06/2013 6:09:12 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: SueRae
Well I think this is very exciting news. Finally, the Navy will adopt lower case letters.

Now if only the NWS (National Weather Service) will follow suit. Not only do they still capitalize all their weather reports, but they have to abbreviate everything - as if they are experiencing a critical shortage of capital letters.

TROPICAL MOISTURE WITH 2" PWATS WILL ADVECT INTO SNE WHICH WILL SET THE STAGE FOR HEAVY RAINFALL LATE FRI INTO FRI NIGHT. PWAT AND LLJ ANOMALY IS +3SD WHICH IS A STRONG SIGNAL FOR HEAVY RAINFALL.

26 posted on 06/06/2013 6:18:03 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Sub-Driver

Gezz, when I was a 70250B in the USAF messages were enough of a pain without having to worry about upper and lower case! Really that was the only up side; everything else was so particular. Ok, then again anything typed in my squadron was really particular now that I think about it!


27 posted on 06/06/2013 6:51:37 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: Sub-Driver

“There are still a couple of legacy systems out there that we’ll have to convert,” probably in mid-2014, Holstead said.


Uh oh. That sounds like the beginning of a B-movie disaster plot to me. Don’t worry, just a few legacy systems, like the launch program for the warheads aboard the nuclear submarines...


28 posted on 06/06/2013 6:52:30 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sub-Driver

Amazing. I retired 20 years ago; hard to believe it took that long.


29 posted on 06/06/2013 7:47:55 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 12 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: EveningStar

I’m thinking all those ship CAPTAINS kept it around for so long.


30 posted on 06/06/2013 7:53:14 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Sub-Driver

31 posted on 06/06/2013 7:54:55 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: JRios1968

JUST SEND THE MESSAGE AND STOP WHINING!


32 posted on 06/06/2013 8:03:40 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Sub-Driver
Navy Scuttles All-Cap Messages

JUST THINK OF ALL THE INK THIS WILL SAVE.

33 posted on 06/06/2013 8:18:37 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: logic101.net

I was a 30671 when I was in the AF. I remember reading msgs. in text, ITA-2, ASCII, and Hollerith.


34 posted on 06/07/2013 1:29:58 AM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
.SDRAWKCAB DNA SPAC LLA ETAH I

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35 posted on 06/07/2013 1:42:28 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

!ffo wohS


36 posted on 06/07/2013 2:15:39 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot.)
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To: WildHighlander57
That one would be in all caps, regardless of the era.

Unless it was a White House press release today.

"There has been an incident at a US military facility in the Pacific. Details are unclear, but it appears to have been an isolated instance of workplace violence based on a misunderstanding with an unspecified foreign government. We believe that the incident has its roots in the policies of the previous administration and we are in talks with the involved parties to determine what can be done to rectify the misunderstanding."

37 posted on 06/07/2013 3:38:30 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: oldbill

I was a tape-ape (72B) in the Army (71-74), and I think we used 5 bit baudet.


38 posted on 06/07/2013 5:43:26 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Sub-Driver

Those who percieve all caps a screaming never used telex.


39 posted on 06/07/2013 5:45:02 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Lerner must be tried and executed..... crime against the Republic)
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To: Sub-Driver

WHAT A BUNCH OF HORSE MANURE.


40 posted on 06/07/2013 5:45:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sub-Driver

WHAT DID YA SAY ?


41 posted on 06/07/2013 5:54:19 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Sub-Driver

OH BOY! NOW NAVY MESSAGES CAN CONTAIN ADDED EMPHASIS!


42 posted on 06/07/2013 7:25:55 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: bert

...Or ever had involvement with engineering or architectural drawings.


43 posted on 06/07/2013 7:38:53 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Bruce Kurtz

You did.
I was referring to those first computerized applications that used the six bit 64 character byte (A B 8 4 2 1) that was also the basis for IBM punched cards and paper tape machines.


44 posted on 06/07/2013 7:44:53 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: Sub-Driver

A FORCE FOR GOOD.


45 posted on 06/07/2013 7:53:07 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: oldbill

Was that EBCIDIC (sp?)


46 posted on 06/07/2013 8:12:40 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Bruce Kurtz

Not quite.
Here’s a summary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC

There was a 5-bit code that all letters had two “1”s and three “0”s. It allowed an accuracy check of each letter because you could verify by checking if it only had two bits. 01010 11000 10001 10100, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-out-of-five_code


47 posted on 06/07/2013 10:25:42 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: oldbill

Thanks for the info


48 posted on 06/07/2013 10:46:57 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Riley
It's the Navy. It is screaming at them and really ticked off.

Yep. At least it was 20 years ago. If someone tried to give me an order without yelling I probably wouldn't have known how to react.

49 posted on 06/07/2013 10:54:11 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The reasoning behind the change was that messages in lower and upper case were easier to read...

I always hear that argument. Maybe they are, but I can't say that I found reading all caps all that difficult. But then look at me-I'm the guy that was so used to all caps I did it to my handle without thinking when I signed up.

50 posted on 06/19/2013 12:07:13 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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