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Texas high school silences Valedictorian's microphone during speech on Constitution, report says
Fox ^ | 06/08/13

Posted on 06/08/2013 7:45:18 AM PDT by AtlasStalled

A Texas high school silenced its Valedictorian’s microphone during his speech when he diverted from his pre-approved remarks and instead spoke about the Constitution.

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To: NohSpinZone
For his sake, I hope he learns to abide by rules more closely at Annapolis.

Indeed.

In fact, he may pay heavily for this "exercise of a free right". He willfully disregarded the rules for his own aggrandizement, and Annapolis and the Navy are all about rules.

One could wonder after this indiscretion (there were more efficient ways to achieve his goals) whether the Navy will trust him enough to make him an officer.

51 posted on 06/08/2013 8:36:00 AM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
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To: Sequoyah101
All animals are equal except some are more equal
52 posted on 06/08/2013 8:38:46 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Lerner must be tried and executed..... crime against the Republic)
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To: AtlasStalled

So why should the speeches of the smartest people in their high school classes need to be reviewed and pro-approved? Don’t want the other students to get any independent thoughts in their heads, I suppose.


53 posted on 06/08/2013 8:43:18 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: longfellowsmuse

While our laws are quite uniform in Texas since we don’t have “home rule” (thank God)- the conservative nature of the state varies from county to county.

For the most part this IS indeed a conservative state. The problem (regarding schos) is that nanny state “conservatives” are on the school boards (a few exceptions).

I live in a county that went about 70% against Ozero both times, but the school board here won’t even entertain arming teachers or faculty members (even though state law already gives them authority to do so).

This past school year I worked very hard to have our kids’ private school set reasonable policies and procedures to allow faculty and parents with CHLs to carry at school and they ended up approving just a few non teacher faculty members and NO parents.

This despite the fact that I was on a 6 person security committe and it took me three months to get a couple of people on it to secure a unanimous recommendation to the Board.

Not to mention that we directly pay for their salaries and building, etc.
I worked numerous hours on this providing legal counsel with no charge. All I wanted was a safe place for my kids and a school to refect in its policies the values we cherish at home.

The Board shot down our recommendation in a single meeting (closed off to the committee)/”.

I promptly j formed them my kids would be home schooled next year.


54 posted on 06/08/2013 8:51:49 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: AtlasStalled

Texas? THIS HAPPENED IN TEXAS? What happened to whiskey for my men and beer for my horses? Did those Tennesseans die for Texas at the Alamo for nothing? Are you going to let these mealy-mouthed liberals destroy your values without a fight? Texas was my hope, my “city on the hill”. If Texas doesn’t stand up our whole country is in the crapper.


55 posted on 06/08/2013 8:55:02 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: wny
My daughter is Valedictorian....she won’t let me write her speech....

Congrats to you! Seeing as how you follow and post on FR and your daughter seems to have smarts and a conservative upbringing, I'm sure she's capable of producing a speech that would make us all proud. Fear not.

56 posted on 06/08/2013 8:59:29 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: AtlasStalled
Have you heard this:

To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.
--Voltaire

Or what you are not allowed to talk about.

Killing this speech of freedom is yet another example of what seeps and flows down hill from those who ran a successful coup against our Republic. How do you like it so far?

I guess we didn't like freedom as much as our ancestors did and traded it for new ownership and some free stuff. I wonder if the rest of us will miss it.

We haven't been formally introduced. What is the name of the GuvCo oligarchy Beast that now owns US and pulls our fashionably new chains?

57 posted on 06/08/2013 9:02:34 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: txrefugee

No, the rule was to not deviate from the approved speech. He knew the rule but did anyway. The mic was turned off. In another article his friend agreed this had nothing to do with the Constitution but that he broke the rule. If his original speech had been about the Constitution, everything might have been fine. Schools can’t have kids go off on whatever in front of thousands in the audience. If I was the speech approval honcho, I wouldn’t care what the kid wanted to speak about as long as it is within the bounds of decency but let him go off and I’m pulling the plug pronto.


58 posted on 06/08/2013 9:03:37 AM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: AtlasStalled

The school’s microphone, the school’s forum, the school’s approval. If the kid didn’t like what he agreed to then he should let someone else do the speech.


59 posted on 06/08/2013 9:04:15 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: bandleader

It doesn’t surprise me at all. Texans are so proud of their state and their ‘freedom’ that they won’t allow criticism or comments that point out that they’re loosing them. They didn’t protect what they had, assuming that it’ll always be there, and it’s going up in smoke.

I’ve never met such a large group of hard-heads in my life.


60 posted on 06/08/2013 9:06:21 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: AtlasStalled

Did the speech police censor the speech before he gave it? As in, did he give them a copy of his US Constitution speech and they nixed it? Has he published his approved and his unapproved speeches anywhere online?


61 posted on 06/08/2013 9:09:26 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: lonevoice

United Socialist States of America


62 posted on 06/08/2013 9:26:30 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: NohSpinZone

Rules are rules.

63 posted on 06/08/2013 9:28:05 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: NohSpinZone

Calling FR a blog—and a case can certainly be made that at least part of FR functions as a blog—really brings out serious animosity in some folks. It’s kind of the FR version of PC.


64 posted on 06/08/2013 9:29:20 AM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: stanne

Texas has been blue, and it will be blue again as soon as amnesty passes.


65 posted on 06/08/2013 9:30:58 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: AtlasStalled

When the mike goes off, just speak louder.

Make them drag you off/.


66 posted on 06/08/2013 9:32:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: NohSpinZone
You mean like McRhino obeyed the rules? Or the elite football players obey the rules? Or officers children obey the rules? Or do you mean like the people without influence obey the rules?
67 posted on 06/08/2013 9:41:50 AM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: frog in a pot

‘One could wonder after this indiscretion (there were more efficient ways to achieve his goals) whether the Navy will trust him enough to make him an officer.’

If the Navy doesn’t want this young man, then to hell with the Navy. They’ll do just fine with fags and rejects.


68 posted on 06/08/2013 9:42:22 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: NohSpinZone
I probably support the young man’s views on the Constitution wholeheartedly; however, he was fully aware of the school’s rules and decided to shirk them. For his sake, I hope he learns to abide by rules more closely at Annapolis.

Wake up. It's time for all good patriots to begin breaking rules that run counter to our guaranteed freedoms and liberties.

The civil order is a mirage. The left is at war with us, and fully intends to eradicate us and our way of life from the face of the earth. Break a few ridiculous rules now, or fight for your very life later. Your choice.

69 posted on 06/08/2013 9:45:43 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

#17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

http://rense.com/general32/americ.htm


70 posted on 06/08/2013 9:46:04 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: NohSpinZone

Breaking ridiculous and unjust rules is what freedom is about.


71 posted on 06/08/2013 9:49:25 AM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: trubolotta
I wouldn’t be so hasty to condemn the school officials since there are too many unknowns and too much speculation about motives.

Bless your heart...

72 posted on 06/08/2013 9:52:58 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Flick Lives

Exactly right.

We are closer to Germany circa 1936 than we are to America circa 1957.


73 posted on 06/08/2013 9:57:13 AM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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To: frog in a pot
...he may pay heavily for this "exercise of a free right". He willfully disregarded the rules for his own aggrandizement, and Annapolis and the Navy are all about rules.

I suppose you haven't noticed that every one of our government institutions has turned full blown Commie in the last five years.

What is the point of obeying rules and regulations that strangle and prohibit the foundational freedoms and liberties that our ancestors fought, died, and suffered to win for us?

74 posted on 06/08/2013 9:57:35 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
So why should the speeches of the smartest people in their high school classes need to be reviewed and pro-approved?

Would you be so supportive if the valdictorian's speech was pro-homosexuality and called for support of same sex marriages?

75 posted on 06/08/2013 9:57:45 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Would you be so supportive if the valdictorian's speech was pro-homosexuality and called for support of same sex marriages?

I would, even though I strongly disagree. I believe in a free exchange of ideas. Ideas either stand or fall on their own merit in such an environment.

That is what freedom is about. Censorship is a tool of totalitarian states.

76 posted on 06/08/2013 10:03:48 AM PDT by EricT. (Another Muslim terrorist. Who saw that coming?)
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77 posted on 06/08/2013 10:04:25 AM PDT by narses
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To: bandleader

Yep...figured it would be Austin.


78 posted on 06/08/2013 10:06:46 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: count-your-change
The school’s microphone, the school’s forum, the school’s approval.

Wrong. We the taxpaying public pay for all of that, and it's there to serve our interests, not some cabal of Commie bureaucrats.

This is exactly what's wrong with the people's relationship with their government. We've become their servants, and they, our masters.

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

79 posted on 06/08/2013 10:06:50 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: formosa

“The person who silenced the mic. should be fired. I do not care what the rules are. If we lack the courage to break stupid rules like these, it will be absolutely be the end of this country. We will get what we deserve and our children will spit on our grave for it.”

But what if this was some kid that got up to proclaim their support for gay marriage and how proud they are to be bisexual?


80 posted on 06/08/2013 10:08:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
But what if this was some kid that got up to proclaim their support for gay marriage and how proud they are to be bisexual?

Do you have some fundamental disagreement with the 1st Amendment?

81 posted on 06/08/2013 10:11:32 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Of course they would!

Because “unjust” rules that “violate the constitution” need to be broken*!!!

*Like lying to the school officials that may have just let him make the speech. We have no idea if they ever saw it. But we do know they require a copy of it beforehand, and he decided that that was crap because he has a constitutional right to use the valedictorian’s speech for whatever he wants...because that’s in the constitution somewhere.


82 posted on 06/08/2013 10:17:26 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: AtlasStalled

Communist School District Alert!!!!!!

What is their contact info?


83 posted on 06/08/2013 10:18:56 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: Windflier

No.

Do you have some issue with this kid not being honest from the start?

He wasn’t. So I need to applaud him for being a liar because I like the subject he decided to go off on?

No one “censored” this speech. They cut the mike when he decided to not do the speech that was agreed upon. If he disliked the setup then he could have just said “I’m not doing the speech”.


84 posted on 06/08/2013 10:20:27 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: austinaero

Here’s some info...

310 E. 18th Street • Joshua, TX 76058

Phone: 817-202-2500 or 817-426-7500 • Fax: 817-641-2738


85 posted on 06/08/2013 10:21:41 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: AtlasStalled

It’s hard even for us, to admit that we are already in a totalitarian state. We were taught as kids that this was the land of the free and that freedoms were guaranteed by the constitution.
I no longer have that illusion.


86 posted on 06/08/2013 10:23:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: VanDeKoik

No one “censored” this speech. They cut the mike when he decided to not do the speech that was agreed upon. If he disliked the setup then he could have just said “I’m not doing the speech”.

Depends on what he said
how far off his remarks did he go?
seriously,,to be edited that closely does not bother you? You believe in not allowing an extemporaneous thought or remark? I’m sure he didn’t have the phrase “they threatened to cut my mic if I go off my speech” in his speech,,so,,he was not supposed to expose that...you are all about confirming and behaving? Wow,,you must have gone to public school


87 posted on 06/08/2013 10:25:12 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: frog in a pot

He willfully disregarded the rules for his own aggrandizement

What aggrandizement? He exposed the threat the district made to him and then they cut his mic.....

you call that aggrandizement.

Obama must love you!


88 posted on 06/08/2013 10:26:07 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: AtlasStalled; All
... he was fully aware of the school’s rules and decided to shirk them.

I agree. In fact, regardless that the student started talking about the Constitution, Fx's title for this article is misleading, imo. This is because this wasn't really an attack on the Constitution as evidenced by the fair warning about deviating from approved speech regardless of material.

89 posted on 06/08/2013 10:28:38 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Hot Tabasco

“Would you be so supportive if the valdictorian’s speech was pro-homosexuality and called for support of same sex marriages? “

YESSSSSS!!! Unequivocally yes I would support his right to give that speech and let him deal with the responsibility and consequences of it. Millions have DIED supporting that right.

What is WRONG with you?!!!!!


90 posted on 06/08/2013 10:28:56 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: austinaero

“They cut the mike when he decided to not do the speech that was agreed upon”

Talking about the Constitution. Oooooh!!! Cut the mic, cut the mic!!!!! :-)


91 posted on 06/08/2013 10:29:28 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cableguymn
I told ya, Texas has an issue. Austin can not be contained.

Yeah, we got a problem ... too many immigrants - from south of the border and from within our own country.

92 posted on 06/08/2013 10:30:42 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Amendment10

“This is because this wasn’t really an attack on the Constitution as evidenced by the fair warning about deviating from approved speech regardless of material. “

Are you insane??? YOu must be.. So,, if I WARN you that you will not abllowed to exercise your constitutional right to free speech,,and you DO exercise it and I PUNISH you,,,then you are going to say your constitutional right was not violated? Really?

Wow. Just wow.


93 posted on 06/08/2013 10:31:13 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: austinaero

Really?

Are some people here this off that they are reduced to making it seem like a student that could not follow pre-agreed rules is now like Sam Adams?

No it “does not bother me”. He was aware of the setup. He decided to go off of it after he agreed to it. He therefore got cut off.

“you are all about confirming and behaving”

Yeah, expecting the same students 99% of FR bitches about being so wild and disrespectful, to actually be just that (regardless of their political views)is REALLY all about being some PS drone?

So when some kid gets on stage to go off on some speech WE DONT AGREE WITH, I completely expect the same people applauding this to keep their mouths firmly shut.


94 posted on 06/08/2013 10:34:25 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
So I need to applaud him for being a liar because I like the subject he decided to go off on?

What do you think the reaction would have been if the kid deviated from his planned remarks with some leftist-approved drivel? Do you really think this was about 'rules'?

Guarantee you, this was about the subject matter, and the fact that the government drones consider it the worst sort of hate speech.

95 posted on 06/08/2013 10:36:36 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Fzob
Go head, make the argument we are not on a precipice of a totalitarian state.

Young people are starting to understand what's happening... they're moving to our side.

96 posted on 06/08/2013 10:38:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSNBC is to news channels as Ringling Bros' Clown College is to Harvard University. - - Greenfield)
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To: AtlasStalled

i would really like to see a video of the event


97 posted on 06/08/2013 10:43:00 AM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: bgill

****No, the rule was to not deviate from the approved speech.****

If the school has the ability to monitor the speech and shut off the microphone, then of what use is the approval of speeches?


98 posted on 06/08/2013 11:05:49 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: count-your-change

****The school’s microphone, the school’s forum, the school’s approval.****

If the school has the ability to monitor the speech and shut off the microphone, then of what use is the approval of speeches?


99 posted on 06/08/2013 11:08:11 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: Windflier
I suppose you haven't noticed…

There is nothing in my post that would reasonably lead you to suppose that.

I have watched our government turn 1917 Red since the middle 60's. You and I no doubt agree the trend continues apace.

In fact, let’s start using the “term 1917 Red” in order to reverse the Red-Blue political description that was foisted on us by a PC, agenda-driven MSM. Do you think it adopted that scheme by accident, or by design?

I read your About Page and do not disagree with anything you wrote. Suggest you read mine and see if you would continue to "suppose".

If you re-read my most recent post, you will note I did not disparage his behavior in the slightest. My point was that he picked a potentially self-defeating and inefficient time to launch an attack, while at the same time demonstrating a serious disregard of rules.

Quite different if he had been accepted into one of the Ivy League institutions. Not very smart or discrete behavior, however, for an applicant to the USNA where one is required and expected to stringently conform to the rules 24/7 for several years.

As you may know, while military officers are graded on their initiative, they are usually downgraded on their reckless disregard of established rules and procedures.

I hope we have a chance to follow this saga. If they indeed let him in (perhaps only to avoid negative PR), he may well receive extra “scrutiny” to assure he is capable of following rules…such that induce him to give it up after the first few weeks

100 posted on 06/08/2013 11:10:12 AM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
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