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Edward Snowden: Hero? Or Traitor?
American Thinker ^ | 06/10/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 06/10/2013 7:25:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

How does a high-school dropout get a contract job with the federal government? You have to have a college degree just to sweep floors there!


21 posted on 06/10/2013 7:58:52 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SeekAndFind
this is a key tool for preserving protecting the nation's safety and security."

A tool so key that it failed to assist in stopping the underwear bomber and the Boston bombers despite outside human intel sources giving them probably cause to get a FISA warrant and plug their names into the database.

22 posted on 06/10/2013 8:01:20 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect there is a component of every intelligence service that’s involved in criminal activities, such as collecting financial information for insider trading. Follow the money. Sometimes $200,000 a year isn’t enough.


23 posted on 06/10/2013 8:01:51 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: SeekAndFind

Will the Justice Department launch a criminal investigation into the leaks NSA?.
Oh wait some are above the law.


24 posted on 06/10/2013 8:05:37 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Get a GED.

Jeez, this isn’t something that is unknown in the armed forces. I’ve met officers who started in the US military as high school drop-outs.


25 posted on 06/10/2013 8:09:27 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting. With all the access to information the Ubama administration has, it’s weird they don’t know who James Rosen’s “co”-conspirator is.


26 posted on 06/10/2013 8:10:52 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: montag813

Yes, and the Supreme Court is staffed by nearly all Ivy League graduates, as is the White House.

Ivy League graduates are plenty happy to give us a reaming for their own benefit. The motto of the Ivy League (especially Harvard) is “Hooray for us! Screw the rest of you little people!”

If we wanted to increase the competency of governance in the US in one day, all we’d have to do is run a few strategic bomber missions over the Ivies. By the end of the day, the increase in competence in government and business would be assured for at least a generation.


27 posted on 06/10/2013 8:12:11 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: montag813
WAY too early to call him a hero.

Far too many unanswered questions about his "military career", qualifications, who hired him and why?

28 posted on 06/10/2013 8:12:13 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sadly, in a story of massive treason, unconstitutional acts, tyranny and epic malfeasance he’s the only person likely to go to jail. Even the worst offenders will “retire quietly.”


29 posted on 06/10/2013 8:15:54 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: jeffc

There are plenty of illegal aliens working for the military and US government. There have been dozens and dozens of illegals found working in military contracting or on military bases where you need a clearance, never mind a college degree.

And you’re wondering how a high school dropout works for the feds? C’mon. Engage in some critical thinking here.


30 posted on 06/10/2013 8:16:37 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
Yes, and the Supreme Court is staffed by nearly all Ivy League graduates, as is the White House.

Not my point to endorse Ivy Leaguers. The point is that his entry into Booz was VERY unusual. The Russians used to be able to get recruits into top shelf firms where they had access to secret info. There is every reason to believe the Chinese may have done the same with Snowden.

31 posted on 06/10/2013 8:18:53 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SeekAndFind

I haven’t made up my mind. However, it is clear to me this guy could have done this by pointing reporter in the right direction.


32 posted on 06/10/2013 8:20:24 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 2banana

HERO! BETTER THAN THE CURRENT GOP.


33 posted on 06/10/2013 8:22:18 AM PDT by angcat
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To: 11th Commandment

Traitor.

Where is he hiding? Hong Kong. The ChiComns have turned him.


34 posted on 06/10/2013 8:24:23 AM PDT by whitedog57
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The guy is on the move! or being moved?

Snowden has checked out of Hotel

Edward J. Snowden, was apparently still in Hong Kong at 12:30 p.m. Monday at the Mira Hotel on the Kowloon side of Victoria Harbor, said Monday evening that he had stayed at the hotel but checked out at that time.

Hong Kong journalists identified the room where the video was recorded as being in the W hotel in Kowloon, near a station of the city’s airport express train. They found journalists for The Guardian checking out of that hotel at lunchtime on Monday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/hong-kong-hotel-says-edward-snowden-was-there-but-checked-out-monday/2013/06/10/44baa0fa-d1af-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html


35 posted on 06/10/2013 8:28:35 AM PDT by caww
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To: jeffc

Gates quite school....most geeks move on instead of spending years in college...and they get snatched up quickly if par excellent...this guy was one of them...

The gov. contracts with these contractors and also farms them the security checks...therefore anybody could slide in or be placed.


36 posted on 06/10/2013 8:31:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: montag813

The Chinese might very well have.

But... I’d also like to point out in the 20th century history of human espionage, the intel agencies have always found the pickings to be very ripe amongst the most highly educated, not among the low-level people. Russians especially had far better success at recruiting “educational elites” than low-level people. Just look at the operations they ran in the US in the 60’s: The college campuses were positively riddled with KGB-funded operations.

The Chinese have all the intel penetration they want of the US via our unsecured IT systems, as well as employees/contractors in Silly Valley and the sheer amount of unvetted IT stuff we buy in the US manufactured in China. Why put effort into a low-level employee at a contractor? The fallout could be huge, the upside limited.

Snowden might be running for asylum with the PRC, but I seriously doubt that he was recruited by the PRC before his coming out. Baer is simply one more government employee that is as full of shit as God is of mercy.


37 posted on 06/10/2013 8:32:48 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m more concerned if Republicans in both the Senate & House were made aware and approved of the scope of spying on all US citizens, not just US citizens’ communications with people overseas.


38 posted on 06/10/2013 8:33:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SeekAndFind

Traitor.

Open and shut.

Do I believe the system is being used by politicians to win elections, and that those politicians are liberal?

Yes. Anyone looking on over the IRS mess can only come to that conclusion. EPA’s just as bad as the IRS, and those are the two most intrusive agencies we have with respect to individual rights.

This is the unintended problem. We damn sure can’t trust the government with our financial information or our medical information. What makes us believe such a system isn’t being abused as much, if not more, than the IRS abuses its systems?

Mitrohnkin left the USSR with steamer trunks full of historical information about the secrets of the USSR, and in that we found that Harry Hopkins, FDR’s most trusted guy, basically spied for the Germans and the Soviets.

Somebody in Truman’s admin leaked information to the Chinese saying we wouldn’t nuke the Chinese if they invaded North Korea.

We need to start executing spies again.

John Deutch emailed an unbelievable amount of information back to his home computer so he could ‘write a book’. Nothing happened to him.

The Espionage Act is a joke.


39 posted on 06/10/2013 8:33:58 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s strange that people keep speaking of a “wiretap” as if in the classic sense.

The NSA is vacuuming up any and all data they can access by hook or by crook.

So what’s a “wiretap”? It’s just a query of stored data.

People are getting way to distracted by the cloak and dagger drama.

He’s a hero. (When he’s smart about what he’s doing remains to be seen.)


40 posted on 06/10/2013 8:34:58 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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