Skip to comments.Judge Napolitano: NSA Leaker Andrew Snowden "An American Hero" (Video at URL
Posted on 06/10/2013 4:36:24 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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Just yanking your chain, DO...
We need to see his personnel jacket to determine if any of that is true.
Well, the leftists have their Bradley "We Steal Secrets" Manning.
Or, his tax returns. I am sure they will be on the net soon.
Actually, if he was in the position to have access to that information, it would be a rare exception if his salary claims are not true.
I have be in this market since 1978, starting with IBM, and I have hired quite a few top IT people over my career.
No doubt. But they all tried to hire on at the post office to be letter carriers in the ghetto because the medical insurance is better ~ AND ~ best of all, fewer people want to shoot you for ‘not sharing’ ~
I figured you were, but I couldn’t pass up on the fun response. :^)
I noticed that at a couple of places I visited to see the source material for articles posted here.
It was interesting. About the defensive comments I could find were (1) The Patriot Act was signed by Bush and (2) both sides do it.
Other than that, there is no defense for Obama to be found.
I more or less see a moral point to both your positions. I do think the leaker wins out here, but I understand where Willk is coming from.
FEMA got a lot of emergency police state powers after Katrina. They also have internment facilities intended to be used in emergencies for displaced populations.
As you know, the patriot act was to only be used to catch Islamic terrorists and they expanded it to strip Americans of their rights and threaten and harass people. With Obama, Holder and Jan the Man and all the commie Czars targeting Obama’s enemies as “terrorists”, FEMA can not be trusted with police state power and interment facilities.
I agree he is a hero. For the first time, I realized that every call I make is tracked. That isn’t right.
We do not live in a free country if every call I make is reported to the government, showing the number I called, the unique ID of the phone I used and the cell tower I placed the call on, which locates me as I made the call.
The government can track my movements and calls in real time. I have no freedom or privacy.
I would rather die a free man than live as a serf.
Oh, yes! The watermelons have to go.
“Using Metadata to Find Paul Revere”
muawiyah has been deluging the threads with his rabid anti-snowden/pro-NSA opinions with quite a fury. I am pretty sure he wouldn’t have liked our Founding Fathers (rebels) very much either. It is pretty clear on which side he would have fought because RED is his favorite color.
You pegged him perfectly.
I remember the first story ~ way back in 1969 ~ it was all about the POSTAL CONCENTRATION CENTERS ~ or PCCs.
Those were facilities serving major metropolitan areas where mail of various kinds would be 'concentrated' to dispatch to other cities.
America's then vigorous leftwingtard press wrote hundreds of articles about how Richard Nixon would soon be rounding them up and sending them to the hitherto secret PCCs.
I"m here to tell you that if Nixon didn't send you to a PCC you're probably not going to get sent to a FCC by Obama!
You’re right... need to give the traitor-bastard NSA time to frame him in the sauce they want to cook him in.... China spy.... sure that will work for you.
Are they after him yet? Any APBs out there?
His girlfriend looks like one of the pole dancers over at the 13 21 club.
You choose to shoot the messenger instead of heeding the message.... I don’t. His revelation of NSA spying on American Citizens is only verification of what many of us have suspected for quite some time. Only difference is it shows that it does not matter whether Dem or RINO regime.... New World Order. Sorry I won’t play.
The idea that NSA was analyzing telephone records is not particularly new ~ that started the first day the first boss found out that the telephone service bill could be examined to see which employees were cheating by calling people from work!
Do you imagine that NSA wasn't examining phone records, or if they weren't that somebody else wasn't? Good grief, there are a dozen countries on this planet with the technological capaciy to tap data streams to pick up all the billing data ~ which is what is meant by 'telephone records'. Do you think they don't do that?
It’s false patriotism to allow the existence of treasonous activity to hide under the umbrella of classified information.
I may not—and it’s required—that I agree in every respect with what Snowden may have done. He has precious and unique characteristics to what he has xone and points us toward, such that we and our descendants should be forever grateful.
Hey, hey; red is my favorite color — despite the connotations some seem to push on the color Red always comes first in "the red, white, and blue".
No pegging involved, just thought he would find the article interesting, because he is often a thoughtful poster. He replied with a similar article at #101.
(Courtesy to ping anyone you refer to in a post. I sometimes forget, too)
What if he has been kidnapped by Isalamists, who will torture him for information.
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Actually, Snowden was a Ron Paul voter.
Yes, I am well aware of that. However, as I said in a previous post, any guy like Ron Paul who corrals support from Code Pink has followers that are liberal, demented, or both.
The ‘messenger’ didn’t have a message ~ you are making things up in your mind you’d like to think he’d said ~ guy’s a Chicom spy. Live with it.
Again, misuse of the term ‘government’ to mean ‘current ruling clique’ ~ no, my government isn’t at war with me, or you. Are you Brits all that po’d about what NSA was doing in the UK? Remember, we ended up needing to put our forces there for more than half a century due to the inability of Europeans to self-govern.
He said he had hope in Obama ~ whether he pulled the lever or not, that right there targets him as being mentally unbalanced.
So why do you do that?
And, what about the Chicom and other efforts in the same game ~ doesn't it bother you that someone who claims to be an important 'expert' in this matter has flown the coop and ended up with the Chicoms? Does that have no meaning for you?
I still think the Detroit problem was more costly than HIss. There you had the Young family directly on the payroll of the USSR's politboro ~ and Andrew and his friends were running that city in the ground. The personnel director at the post office was in a curious position as well. A Young relate (Andy's brother I believe) he knew all the used up defectors sent there. Detroit was where the gub'mnt employed them! A number of them were engineers so they fit right in the postal lab maintained at that site.
When 'mail covers' were run, the letters were routed to Detroit ~ Paul Carlin can tell you about that practice ~ so whoever we were interested in was immediately revealed, through Young and double agent defectors, to the KGB.
Interestingly enough one of the revelations made during this news cycle was that all letter mail which requires sortation is actually photographed ~ and I can imagine all sorts of reasons why that would be done ~ stopping anthrax and other chemical attacks from spreading is a good one ~ but those 'covers' create metadata of use to...... who?
The lab is in the DC area these days, but do we still send defectors over there to work? The same old same old could be underway in that quarter and yet no one cares but me?
you should see democraticunderground and huffingtonpsot in the comments , they are bash in edward snowden and callimg him a traitor(because he hurt the mighty obama)
Ok, fair enough. But, I can also tell you that I "believed in Bush's promises too", and look what he gave us.
All of your points will still apply, however, you can't win any of those points without first winning the stated battle, or at least reversing its trend. For if you don't win, or begin to make a dent in this new battle, you will lose all of those points you mention.
So, we first need to accept allies in our fight to win this battle, for if we do not win this battle, we will surely lose everything else.
When and if the REAL story on Benghazi comes out, it will take down the whole lot of them. Unfortunately, we are dealing with a vastly uneducated populace, but if you prove to people this administration was knowingly and covertly arming AL QAEDA, it all comes tumbling down......and its a lot more complicated than that.
What!? — He's been sounding the alarm on government overreach for years now; this PRISM incident isn't lawful, in fact it's proof that the 4th, 5th, and possibly 6th Amendments are dead, dead, dead. It's certainly proof that the government is utterly unbound by the constraints of the Constitution and the Tree of Liberty is thirsty.
It’s pretty obvious you live under a Parliamentary system, and not the US federal republic with division of powers, states, etc. Seriously. Use American terminology.
I do that every time somebody decides to turn from God and worship a felon. Just my nature I guess. Now, read about his pole dancing girlfriend at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3029928/posts Also covers his salary ~ it wasn’t $200,000 per year.
“No pegging involved, just thought he would find the article interesting, because he is often a thoughtful poster. He replied with a similar article at #101.”
Oh my, I overestimated your post. I thought you were being insightful....my bad!!
You may need your friends someday. Best not to lose them over a simple difference of opinion. FR used to be a site for reasoned discussion, but seems to have become a site for mutual destruction of allies, splintering of efforts, and quite discourteous to boot. The founders had differences of opinion far greater than what this site contains, but found ways to work together.
Sorry I can’t be insightful enough to meet your criteria. But please keep in mind we’re on the same side.
Yeah real hero. Takes national secrets and divulges them in a communist country.