Snowden is a sounding board for established political bias.
Andrew or Edward?
Then enemy of my enemy is my friend.
This one is splintering the right isn’t it. Bolton sees it just the opposite.
This person is an Obama supporter. A liberal.
The most dangerous threat to this country is not the CIA monitoring telephone numbers (though it IS a threat)
The greatest danger to this republic is pervasive liberalism and the accompanying socialist and Marxist underpinnings. Those underpinnings will destroy this country more thoroughly and completely than any monitoring program possibly could.
Monitoring programs and invasion of privacy can be stopped via oversight if there is the political will on the part of the citizenry and the government to do so.
Advocating and supporting liberal left policies that have as a goal the destruction of property rights and the ability to keep the fruits of your own labor will demolish the political will on the part of the citizenry and the government because destroying our wealth is the equivalent (with respect to freedom) to a farmer destroying the seed for next years crops.
Once that is gone, liberty and freedom go with it.
Because this person Snowden is like a blind squirrel that finds a nut by accident isnt going to make me support or admire him. I think it is a fine circumstance that he did see fit to spill his guts, but I wouldnt trust him or admire him.
I view him the same way I view an enemy traitor in a time of war who provides my side with information. The traitor may have all kinds of reasons for his actions (I felt I wasnt getting the appropriate recognition or promotion, I didnt agree with the direction of the war, etc) but he still supports the basic beliefs of the side he betrays.
In this case, the guy may be a disenchanted Obama supporter, but by all accounts, he still believes in everything a radical Obama believes in, and that makes him my enemy.
Such a time we live in, where I have to admit to myself that I can view some Americans as enemies, but it is true that I do, as in Enemies Foreign and Domestic.
The dude is our conscience He really is people.
Brett Baier's panel continually referred to calls coming into or going out of the US. Nobody seems to realize that terrorists don't sign a contract with Verizon or AT$t. They use disposable phones. This program isn't going to touch them.
Now we have to listen to all of these talking heads and the Bush Patriot Act supporters defend the (un)constitutional basis of gathering our personal information without our knowledge. Oh, doesnt it make their loyalty of this program to Bush validated. The people on Fox (The Five) really proves their loyalty to the government. Very alarming to hear most of the panel except Beckel think the leaker was being so bad to defame their precious government.. The law was not intended for snooping on all of the citizens. They want to see who is opposed to their government, I assume. I think it will come down to those who support liberty and those who think government will protect them. This government is out of control and have the permission from most talking heads to keep it up. Bolton is making a fool of himself which from time to time, he does. I agree with the Judge here.
I say bull shit to that... this guy is a traitor...And if the majority of FRpers are seeing that way, then I’m out of here.
Advocates of strong government on right and left think he is a demon.
Those who are more considered realize that: (1) if what he says is exactly accurate in all respects, then it was important for the American people to know about it, and (2) if he were a hero, he would have stayed in the US and demanded justice.
When Snowden praises Manning, one needs to reflect a bit.
I don’t think this is a right/left issue. It appears this guy, unlike Bradly Manning was careful not to release info that would put people in danger. The only people that are endangered are the ones whose heads may roll for running such a overbearing dragnet. I have mixed views on him. Manning I felt was a traitor. This guy I’m taking a wait and see attitude on. It doesn’t look good him going to Hong Cong though. The government is definitely pushing the boundaries of legitimacy. Someone needed to speak out.
Can we really say we know all of the facts about this? I trust nothing presented by the MSM. Yet an other distraction from obama criminal actions in Benghazi.
Absolutely watch Snowden’s interview. It is a powerful 12 and a half minutes.
apparently this fella doesn't agree with the Judge
I lived in the DC/Baltimore are for 10 years and worked among many high-tech government employees. The joke I heard about 25 years ago goes like this:
Q: How do tell if a NSA employee is an extrovert?
A: They look at your shoes, not theirs.
Seriously, the SigInt people run a meritocracy in the technical ranks. The fact he does not have a traditional college degree ADDS to his credibility. I knew of several “savants” who had Asperger’s or autism and had wonderful careers in the IC.
When someone tries to stop unlawful behavior, especially if it’s being done by the highest office, he is doing what he should do. He has more guts than congress. He sees the destruction in action and knows it’s wrong. Congress has had every chance to stop this mess and they have not. I don’t know what happens to them when they get to Washington, but I have given up on congress having the guts to do anything. Scared of the media and by now, do not know what illegal is.
I hope the guy is ok... for he has risked life and limb to expose this crap.
You know Snowden is a hero when Barry’s toads at the WaPo publish a “poll” saying that 56% of the jugheads living in this country does not mind if the government is invading their privacy and snooping on them.
"But none of the means of information are more sacred, or have been cherished with more tenderness and care by the settlers of America, than the press. Care has been taken that the art of printing should be encouraged, and that it should be easy and cheap and safe for any person to communicate his thoughts to the public. And you, Messieurs printers, whatever the tyrants of the earth may say of your paper, have done important service to your country by your readiness and freedom in publishing the speculations of the curious. The stale, impudent insinuations of slander and sedition with which the gormandizers of power have endeavored to discredit your paper are so much the more to your honor; for the jaws of power are always opened to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing." - A Dissertation on the Canon and Feudal Law, 1765
HereNote: underlining added for emphasis.
Words from an ancient wisdom book: "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
Will we, in the 21st Century allow the "jaws of power" to invade the "rights of conscience," of "thinking, speaking, and writing" which the U. S. Constitution's Framers set outside the purview of such "gormandizers of power" in government?
Liberalism is a narcissistic mental disorder. Had this taken place under a Republican the JonStewart media would be demanding that Republican frog marched up the capitol steps.
The NSA had to have been ‘ordered’ and funded to collect our data. Who ordered it, when was it ordered and WHY? It surely cannot be claimed this is to protect US else that Boston Marathon would not have ended in carnage.