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Obama: ‘We Owe' Young Illegals a Path to Citizenship
CNS News ^ | June 11, 2013 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 06/12/2013 12:13:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Barack Obama said Tuesday that America “owes” it to certain illegal aliens to pass legislation providing a “pathway to citizenship.”

“We owe it to America to do better,” Obama said in the East Room of the White House. “We owe it to the Dreamers to do better.”

Obama then went on to cite several young people in the audience. Obama and supporters of the immigration reform legislation have called people who were taken into the United States illegally by their parents “dreamers.” Democrats previously supported the DREAM Act that would allow illegals who attend college or enlist in the military to get on the pathway to citizenship.

During the speech, Obama said the pathway in the proposal before the Senate is “arduous.”

“You've got to pass background checks,” Obama said. “You've got to learn English. You've got to pay taxes and a penalty, and then you've got to go to the back of the line behind everybody who’s done things the right way and have tried to come here legally. So this won’t be a quick process. It will take at least 13 years before the vast majority of these individuals are able to even apply for citizenship. So this is no cakewalk.”

However, he said the pathway is needed for enforcement to work....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; immigration; obama
How many lies did he tell there?
1 posted on 06/12/2013 12:13:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dismantling America 4.83.

When the Hopey-Changey crowd wakes up (a small part) it will be way too late.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 12:20:05 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i’m trying to remember why i paid so much for out of state tuition when i went to college... when all i had to do was declare myself a citizen of mexico and collect free money from the state along with lower tuition rates

and after it’s all done... pick my citizenship back up, all on the taxpayer’s dime... which wouldn’t have been me, as i would have been an illegal.

on second thought 0failure, how about screw you and your idiotic concepts.

i’m still waiting for someone to slap this tard with a tax evasion charge for filing tax returns using someone else’s ssno. yea... not holding my breath.


3 posted on 06/12/2013 12:20:44 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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4 posted on 06/12/2013 12:24:01 AM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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5 posted on 06/12/2013 12:24:33 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What do we “owe” illegals who broke the law coming into this country? But I would not expect a man who believes that quality healthcare is a “right” to satisfactorily answer that question.


6 posted on 06/12/2013 12:24:57 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"... who were taken into the United States illegally by their parents ..."

If you're not prosecuting the parents, it's hard to make the case that the children are victims. Seems the only debt "owed" to the dreamers is owed to them by their parents.

7 posted on 06/12/2013 12:32:56 AM PDT by PressurePoint
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wrong odumber. They are illegals. We don't owe them a {Diety}-damn thing but a fair apprehension and a trip back across the border. Personally, I'd charge them the $ for the processing and the bus ticket.

odumber - I do not want, as in ever, fellow citizens who's first action on entering my Country was to break our laws. They don't get citizenship - ever!

8 posted on 06/12/2013 12:35:03 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I posted this on another thread earlier. It is an email I sent to my two (RINO) senators and my congresswoman, Marsha Blackburn.

Dear Senator:

Before we let the Democrats shove another trillion-dollar boondoggle into law the debate on immigration should be expanded. Republicans in Congress are being given a false choice—amnesty or no amnesty.

The engine that drives most illegal immigration is the poor economic and social conditions for many in Mexico.

An oligarchy of billionaires run Mexico. These people control the monopolies that dominate the Mexican economy. Traditionally they have been able to repress competition leading to slower economic growth, a stunted entrepreneurial class, a lack of foreign investment, limited choices for consumers, and fewer jobs. These conditions help keep almost half the Mexican population in poverty and only semi-employed.

This is not an indictment of capitalism but of the forces that restrict free market equity in Mexico.

Mexico is rich. Last year they passed Brazil in economic growth. But where the U.S. is over regulated, Mexico is under regulated. In the U.S. the government is the main obstacle to economic growth. In Mexico it is the ruling class. And Mexico has a judicial system that favors the powerful.

An example: Billionaire Carlos Slim controls 80 percent of telecommunications—landlines and mobile phones—in Mexico. The absence of competition means fewer jobs, less innovation, slower growth for the industry, and little choice in rates or services for consumers. Slim is not a robber baron but a shrewd industrialist operating in the environment he was born into.

The key to solving the illegal immigration crisis may be forceful diplomacy aimed at helping Mexico design a new regulatory model that encourages competition, foreign investment and a new generation of entrepreneurs and small business owners.

A task force of thinkers and builders drawn from across the spectrum of the U.S. economy could serve as an economic Peace Corps.

This will not be easy but it will be far easier than attempting to assimilate tens of millions of Mexican nationals into our system.

Brad ________

9 posted on 06/12/2013 12:35:14 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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So the Mexican Government owes the young Central American illegals a path to Mexican citizenship ?

The US government should owe all naturally born American citizens the opportunity for gainful employment.

10 posted on 06/12/2013 12:43:09 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I understand where Barry is coming from. After all, he was a young illegal once.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 12:44:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: PressurePoint
If they are college age now, that must mean they were brought into the US illegally at least 10 years after I started screaming to tighten up the borders.

Seems a bit counterintuitive to now say I owe a debt to the very fruits of the crimes I tried to stop.

12 posted on 06/12/2013 12:46:40 AM PDT by PressurePoint
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To: justa-hairyape

We should agree that our immigration laws should be as “generous” as Mexico’s.


13 posted on 06/12/2013 12:49:15 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
America owes nothing to anybody. We have Freedom, freedom to work, freedom from Government
getting in our way to our God given rights of Freedom.

Not to be pissed away to people who didn't earn it, or people who don't understand
what actual freedom stands for. And especially not to be given to people for VOTES!

Send them back to the Governments their parents accept without a fight, back to the
cesspool they came from so they don't turn our America into what they ran away from.

No Obama, we don't want their poor and illiterate! We want their best and brightest.
Let their poor make the food and sweep the floors in their own country.
And dig their own graves, not ours.

14 posted on 06/12/2013 12:51:07 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

http://youtu.be/z3E4s4JTzsY


15 posted on 06/12/2013 1:04:56 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

screw Obama and screw illegal spick punks , we do not owe they anything . They belong in camps ; camps dedicated to building The Wall ( the border wall along our entire southern border )


16 posted on 06/12/2013 1:35:49 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We owe burglars easier access to our homes and businesses.
17 posted on 06/12/2013 2:28:15 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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How about a path back to the border?


18 posted on 06/12/2013 2:54:14 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This piece of shit decides we “owe” illegals? We owe them nothing. Why do I owe them anything? They should be treated as invaders and either imprisoned or immediately deported.


19 posted on 06/12/2013 3:08:35 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Seems the easiest way to have more citizens in the US is to ban abortions except in cases of rape, incest, and the mother's health, or if the child was to become a politician.

Our Southern border is more porous than a Chicago teen- minority's cervix.

20 posted on 06/12/2013 3:18:15 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama: ‘We Owe' Young Illegals a Path to Citizenship, so they can become good little Registered Democrats.

You forgot part of the headline.

21 posted on 06/12/2013 3:20:50 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This entire notion of owing anyone outside of our citizens; at least that argument can be made for healthcare in general although not the way its being implemented; is insanity of the highest order. So we owe people who entered our borders illegally then how about the people just over the border? They look from the barren wasteland that is Mexico (why else do they keep coming?) at our gleaming skyscrapers and say why not me too? How about them? They only need walk over the border after all and be exactly like their illegal brethren. Where does this end?


22 posted on 06/12/2013 3:24:50 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We owe illegal Aliens bumpkus.
They are Citizens and the responsibility, of some OTHER Country!

We owe that other Country the respect of viewing these vistor’s are their Citizens


23 posted on 06/12/2013 3:42:05 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dreamers and SCHEMERS.....”How do we get free housing, education, food, medical care PAID FOR BY SOMEONE ELSE?”


24 posted on 06/12/2013 3:51:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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We owe you retirement via impeachment kenyan.

LLS


25 posted on 06/12/2013 4:22:55 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> Obama: ‘We Owe’ Young Illegals a Path to Citizenship
Me, “No we don’t.”


26 posted on 06/12/2013 4:28:46 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry Barry. I’m not an America-hating, Kenyan Marxist. I don’t “owe” them ****. Where do you get this “we” crap?


27 posted on 06/12/2013 5:12:43 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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Close the borders today. Start deporting 1 million illegals a month until they’re gone. Begin talks about immigration.


28 posted on 06/12/2013 5:15:19 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What if they refuse a background check, refuse to learn English, and/or don’t get a job? What happens then? Do they get deported? And once deported, what’s to stop them from ending up back here within a week, since “legalization comes before security?”


29 posted on 06/12/2013 5:18:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here we go with the 'we owe' crap. Entire generations of whites and blacks had the 'we owe' mantra drummed into their skulls over slavery and look at the racism and sense of entitlement that has derived from it.

We must LOUDLY reject the 'we owe' message and refuse to be guilted into providing lifetimes of entitlements to people whose familial ties to the U.S. began with a violation of our Federal laws.

30 posted on 06/12/2013 5:25:50 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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Obama: ‘We Owe' Young Illegals a Path to Citizenship
Who is 'we' blac.. uh .. Kenyan? You got a mouse in your pocket?
'I' don't own them a goddarn thing, ya stinkin' commie.
31 posted on 06/12/2013 5:59:27 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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If that’s the case then we should reward children of bank robbers also. Didn’t they break the law and were’nt the children paying a price for their father going to prison?


32 posted on 06/12/2013 6:46:58 AM PDT by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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Anyone who has not spent a couple days on the border (or a Home Depot at 7am) has no standing. NObama and other losers live tucked away in their protective circles. They need to walk the streets of El Paso, Eagle Pass, or Laredo without secret service protection and see how they like it. Send his daughters down there for a shopping spree without guards.

Never happen.


33 posted on 06/12/2013 7:00:24 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter
Seems the easiest way to have more citizens in the US is to ban abortions except in cases of rape, incest...

Killing innocents for the crimes of others is barbaric.

...and the mother's health

De facto abortion on demand.

34 posted on 06/12/2013 7:07:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Our rights come from God, not men, and they are therefore UNALIENABLE, and NON-NEGOTIABLE.)
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We do not “OWE” anything to them. I could be persuaded to allow some of them to EARN it.


35 posted on 06/12/2013 8:34:05 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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Rubio has made this argument, that what else can we do for those people already here.

The problem with this argument, even if you accept the premise, is that the exact same argument would hold true in 10 years.

Meaning they pass this bill, and over the next 10 years, millions more people come into the country illegally. Now THEY are the ones “in the shadows”. And the argument remains — it is unfair to keep them in the shadows.

I actually agree with the concept that, all other things being taken care of, we should accept the children who grew up in this country for immigration. They didn’t break the law, their parents did. And they don’t have a home to go back to, they never lived in that country, they might not know the language, they were educated here, and should be part of our culture.

And in fact, many times their parents WERE here legally, and only later stopped getting their visa renewed, or otherwise lost their legal status. Or the kid turned 18, and now is no longer covered under their parent’s legal visa, and so they need there own, but the broken system didn’t provide a way for them to get their own legal immigration papers (in part because of all the illegals clogging up the system).

If that was ALL that was being proposed, in exchange for securing the borders and going after the adults that came here illegally, I’d support it.


36 posted on 06/12/2013 10:15:14 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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