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Left Loses Big in Citizenship-Verification Supreme Court Case
PJ Media ^ | June 17, 2013 | J. Christian Adams

Posted on 06/17/2013 8:03:34 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: bluecat6

and how many states are going to do that?


21 posted on 06/17/2013 8:24:35 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: jazusamo
"After the decision today, states have a green light to do double- and triple-checking even if a registrant uses the federal form."

This is a hint to the red states and purple states where election integrity is a front burner issue. It is not a Left or Right issue, but an issue of those who (still) have faith in the election process and those who want to subvert it for purposes of maintaining power--and both parties have their minions and hangers on who want to suppress the vote.

22 posted on 06/17/2013 8:25:14 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: jazusamo
I am not a lawyer but I am an administrator, i.e. bureaucrat, and I saw this as a no brainer. States cannot alter or change how a Federal form is used or change instructions for filling them out. What I did not understand is why the state create it's own forms and rules to do what the federal form does not. Thanks for the explanation it really helped me understand what the issue really was.
23 posted on 06/17/2013 8:27:12 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: jazusamo

Good, now if that immigration reform bill fails to pass then we can have a double celebration.


24 posted on 06/17/2013 8:27:23 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: jazusamo
This article is epic. I was thinking the SCOTUS shot an arrow through the heart of State's Voter ID laws. Turns out all it did was tell Arizona they can't use Federal forms to require ID, but can use State forms to do it. I think.

Thanks for the post!

25 posted on 06/17/2013 8:27:30 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: jazusamo

I still wonder what what caused Thomas and Alito to be the two dissenting votes.

Maybe they wanted to be batting 1.000 instead of .800


26 posted on 06/17/2013 8:28:37 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: God luvs America

Yes, Adams is one of the DOJ attorneys who was involved in the New Black Panther fiasco and quit over it when Holder and thugs dropped the case after it had been won.


27 posted on 06/17/2013 8:28:52 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Mike Darancette

Yes, that’s how I interpret it.


28 posted on 06/17/2013 8:30:22 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: American Constitutionalist

True. The Amnesty Bill passage would make requiring ID practically irrelevant. Not to mention, why would we even bother having elections at that point?


29 posted on 06/17/2013 8:31:44 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: max americana

I completely did not get it this way at all.

What I find disturbing about this is that , due to the complexity of the bureaucracy, this may be a win, but I fully expect that liberals will, knowing that even plugged in and well informed voters may not grasp it, obfuscate, break the law, then obfuscate some more when called on it.

It is like trying to explain Whitewater to someone. Their eyes begin to glaze.


30 posted on 06/17/2013 8:33:22 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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To: smoothsailing

I hear you and don’t have the slightest idea, maybe more will come out later.


31 posted on 06/17/2013 8:34:54 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: GeronL

If the one that puts prisoners in tents in the desert with pink jump suits does not do it probably not many.

But it would be an interesting thing - and legal thing - if they did do it.


32 posted on 06/17/2013 8:35:21 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: jazusamo

You know, this is something like the third or fourth SCOTUS case in the last couple years with a “strange bedfellows” alignment of the Liberal bloc and some of the Conservatives where the initial reaction has been that of a huge victory for the Left but upon reflection looks like sly victory for Conservatives.

I’m wondering if the Conservatives on the Court have figured out a way of manipulating the Liberals into Conservative-favoring majority opinions. Give up on some minor point to win several major points and walk away with a solid 6-3 or even more solid 7-2 majority that dispels the notion of partisan bias.

Even though I strenuously disagree with the decision (”strenuously” isn’t actually a strong enough word for my feeling on this - the damn thing should have been struck down immediately and in it’s entirety), I have wondered if that’s what Roberts was trying for with the ObamaCare opinion. While the opinion left the piece of garbage standing under the auspices of the Gvt’s ability to tax, Roberts pulled all four Liberal Justices into supporting a majority opinion that defined - for the first real time since the New Deal iirc - good limits on what the Federal Gvt can do in the face of the 10th Amendment.


33 posted on 06/17/2013 8:37:17 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: bluecat6

Let’s hope the overseer of the pink prisoners reads this thread, if this is accurate.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 8:38:20 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: jazusamo

35 posted on 06/17/2013 8:38:30 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: God luvs America
but this guy seems to know what he’s talking about and has been fighting this fight for a while

AZ uses an AZ form in all state places of registration such as DMV, welfare office and such which requires ID. How many truly federal office would a citizen visit?

36 posted on 06/17/2013 8:39:26 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama Leadership: Present)
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To: smoothsailing
I still wonder what what caused Thomas and Alito to be the two dissenting votes.

Maybe they wanted to be batting 1.000 instead of .800


There's that. Or ...

They may have been playing the "bad cop" role to allow the "good cop" (Scalia) to craft a majority opinion that traded one point for getting the Liberal Bloc to sign onto a 80% Conservative majority opinion.

Just a thought, anyways ...
37 posted on 06/17/2013 8:41:35 PM PDT by tanknetter
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sfl


38 posted on 06/17/2013 8:42:48 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: tanknetter

Nice theory.


39 posted on 06/17/2013 8:44:42 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont
Nice theory.

Like I said, just a thought I had ...
40 posted on 06/17/2013 8:47:51 PM PDT by tanknetter
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