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Day #9 (Week 2) George Zimmerman Case – Open Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 20, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 06/20/2013 4:58:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: Uncle Chip

I agree. Great points. They must clear their minds and always remember that Zimmerman is Innocent...until ‘proven’ otherwise.


21 posted on 06/20/2013 6:37:30 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Fawn

O’Mara now dismantling Bernie’s cookie jar analogy yesterday re circumstantial evidence vs direct evidence.

R Hirschorn looking carefully at pjuror faces as Bernie’s analogy is dismantled.


22 posted on 06/20/2013 6:48:23 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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pj asked about meaning of “abiding” doubt versus “vacillating” doubt.

O’Mara should have used the analogy — homeowner/renter versus visitor welcomed or unwelcomed — until Bernie objected.


23 posted on 06/20/2013 7:02:27 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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M75 and B37 have a problem with the 2nd A. Bernie just moved them up on his list.


24 posted on 06/20/2013 7:20:48 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Recess —

Bill Schaeffer says that O’Mara is conducting classic voir dire that should be read in law schools. Has accomplished more in one hour today than Bernie did in five hours yesterday. Has heard from 25 of the 40 jurors and has been able to present elements of his case at the same time.

At one point Bernie objected to O’Mara’s presentation of jury instructions as incorrect. Nelson said that she would read them to the jury — so O’Mara gives her his notes and she reads from them to the jury. Schaeffer noted the significance of that that the jury had to have picked up on.


25 posted on 06/20/2013 7:43:03 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Maybe starting next week, just run 1 thread for the rest of the trial? That way we can go back and look at notes easier?


26 posted on 06/20/2013 8:29:00 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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So, if they prove the photos’ of Georges’s bashed head and broken nose are REAL, then right there, he was justified to use deadly force. Right?


27 posted on 06/20/2013 8:42:12 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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Bernie objects to the jury instruction on the law of self defense. He wants jurors who are confused on it. He doesn’t want the jury to know that it is the duty of the state to disprove of the defendant’s claim of self defense.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 9:03:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Judge Nelson is getting mad at a pj right now as he is asking about the meaning of the law and terms therein and she tells him/them that the court will not provide that other than to give them a reading and copy of the law.


29 posted on 06/20/2013 9:06:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Fawn

11:42

Bill Sheaffer:
by having judge nelson reading this, the jury hears all of the jury instructions on deadly force. had mm read only a portion then that would be what he could question on. now he can ask about all aspects of this instruction. bdlr opened a huge door right there

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/


30 posted on 06/20/2013 9:15:33 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

what’s bdlr?


31 posted on 06/20/2013 9:16:58 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: sheikdetailfeather

11:42

Bill Sheaffer:
this was not a good move by bdlr.


32 posted on 06/20/2013 9:17:29 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: spacejunkie2001

bernie with the state is bdlr


33 posted on 06/20/2013 9:18:01 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: sheikdetailfeather

got it, thank you. finally “something” going our way.


34 posted on 06/20/2013 9:18:51 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

can everyone hear the jurors well? I can’t an am on wesh. Is there a better site?


35 posted on 06/20/2013 9:26:23 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: spacejunkie2001

Yes. O’Mara is brilliant today. Schaeffer (legal analyst at WFTV) said the state was jovial yesterday and today is defensive. I pray for Zimmerman and his family.


36 posted on 06/20/2013 9:26:34 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: spacejunkie2001

Use this link.

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/


37 posted on 06/20/2013 9:27:29 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: spacejunkie2001

B7 not comfortable with the wild wild west of people carrying guns.


38 posted on 06/20/2013 9:28:42 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: spacejunkie2001

WFTV has the live streaming as well as a live blog you can read (just click on the play button) as the people comment on the jury selection. The legal analyst for WFTV (Bill Schaeffer) makes comments off and on to help viewers understand what is happening.


39 posted on 06/20/2013 9:30:38 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Uncle Chip

Bye bye B7.....


40 posted on 06/20/2013 9:31:03 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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