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Spat between Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin over German treasure
The Telegraph ^ | 6-21-13

Posted on 06/21/2013 1:21:10 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

A dispute over ancient German treasure looted by Soviet troops at the end of the Second World War has overshadowed a visit by Angela Merkel to Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: germany; godsgravesglyphs; gold; hermitage; merkl; putin; reparations; russia; stalinthethief; treasure; trojanwar; war
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To: JCBreckenridge

Killing Germans was wrong....forcing them back to Germany was not.


61 posted on 06/21/2013 3:22:14 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Gay State Conservative

Internal Revenue Security.

The way this administration is, all capitalist
enterprises ARE under under their jurisdiction.

Always remember, you cannot have organs of internal
security without an internal threat to the state.
If there isn’t one, they will find one if only to
justify their existance.

That is the problem with ALL Obama’s Stateorgs.


62 posted on 06/21/2013 3:25:12 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: dfwgator

Koenigsberg was part of Germany.


63 posted on 06/21/2013 3:30:01 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Feh.
Really...had not the victors of WWI been so vindictive towards Germany, Germany might not have been seduced by the vile songs of the NAZI’s and silently nodded as the NAZI’s wreaked havoc all over Europe.
Europe ‘’asked’’ for WWII and got it.
In spades.


64 posted on 06/21/2013 3:30:27 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

And Kiev was once part of Poland, so what’s your point....lands change hands over time due to war, WWII was no different.


65 posted on 06/21/2013 3:31:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

You said ‘forcing Germans’ back to Germany was fine.

But Koenigsberg was German. So it wasn’t for Stalin about ‘forcing Germans to Germany’, it was about gobbling up more land for himself, taking over parts of Germany and Poland and all of Eastern Europe.

That was the legacy of FDR.


66 posted on 06/21/2013 3:33:53 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Navy Patriot

We just stole the scientists (and the flying saucers.)


67 posted on 06/21/2013 3:36:31 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Thumper1960

Which is why we had The Marshall Plan after WWII.


68 posted on 06/21/2013 3:39:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Never, never, say never. My grandfather was from Lwow, I KNOW it will be Polish again.


69 posted on 06/21/2013 3:50:42 PM PDT by fogofbobegabay
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To: fogofbobegabay

If I had my way, I would restore the former Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.


70 posted on 06/21/2013 3:56:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Who knows. History has taken some weird turns before.


71 posted on 06/21/2013 3:57:54 PM PDT by fogofbobegabay
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Trade it for Königsberg.


72 posted on 06/21/2013 3:59:06 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
British, maybe, but one can say they’re not really Europe

Past Calais, it's all wogs....

73 posted on 06/21/2013 4:01:31 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Berliners call the Russian Tomb of the Unknown Soldier there, the “Tomb of the Unknown Looter”....


74 posted on 06/21/2013 5:20:28 PM PDT by ALASKA
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks afraidfortherepublic. The USSR stole priceless ancient artifacts, and lied about it for decades, which isn't surprising at all, because the Soviet regime was entirely criminal. Obviously the Trojan War artifacts should go back to Berlin, period. And no more shilly-shallying because of the Amber Room.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


75 posted on 06/21/2013 9:48:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: JCBreckenridge; dfwgator

Konigsberg and it’s area was a center of Junker aristocracy aka Prussia. In short, it was a core of notorious German militarism for centuries.
Russians were fully aware of this fact and for that very reason they ethnically cleansed it.
It seems like worked. There is no German militarism anymore, at least they weren’t in state of aggressive war with someone since 1945, which might be the the longest peaceful period for Germans’ neighbors in 500 years.
I think it is correct to call them eurowennies now.


76 posted on 06/21/2013 10:08:45 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Yes, ethnic cleansing is just so awesome isn’t it. It’s a good thing Hitler was Prussian too!


77 posted on 06/22/2013 2:06:32 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Who tells ethnic cleansing is good? And Hitler wasn’t Prussian but Junkers were eager to serve his cause and aren’t innocent for that reason.


78 posted on 06/22/2013 2:21:02 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

You just did. You praised the ethnic cleansing of Germans in Germany by Stalin. He was amazing, wasnt he?

“Hitler wasn’t Prussian.”

What was he then? Shouldn’t Stalin have ethnically cleansed those who were responsible for starting the second world war?


79 posted on 06/22/2013 2:27:51 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I didn’t! Hitler was Austrian.


80 posted on 06/22/2013 3:53:51 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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