Posted on 06/22/2013 6:59:34 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
“Thats because you didnt have any black mothers popping out white babies.”
Actually, I had two women almost beaten to death in the recovery room for having a wrong color baby.
But the idea that I, or any doctor, would remember a personal detail from 1976, much less 1961 (!), is absurd.
Jim Noble wrote: Actually, I had two women almost beaten to death in the recovery room for having a wrong color baby.
Aside from the fact that you totally contradict your initial premise, imagine having the wrong color baby in 1961. That would be a standout that most people would remember, espcially a doctor or nursing staff who delivered such.
When someone becomes resident don’t those around his home town and who knew him, or worked where he was born come forth and proclaim how proud they are that the president was born there?
That;s the significance of the nurses and hospital worker’s silence.
Can someone from Honolulu tell us the locations of plaques, signs, tours, of the places which mark his birth?
Where is the C-Span bus tour of the presidential birth site?
president? resident? what difference does it make?
Obama is an American citizen and a liar.
We do not know if he is an American citizen or not. We do not know conclusively that he was actually born *IN* Hawaii. Given his twisting and obfuscation, I would say there is a fair chance he was not born in Hawaii.
Hawaii has long had a peculiar law which allows Hawaii to issue birth certificates to the children of Hawaiian residents, even if they WERE NOT born in Hawaii. Again, given how much smoke he has thrown up for anyone looking at his birth, I'm betting the odds are pretty good that he wasn't actually born *IN* Hawaii, but rather, he was merely born to a resident of Hawaii, but elsewhere.
Vancouver is a reasonable conjecture.
I may be mistaken about this, but it is my opinion that when babies are born, you often can't tell immediately that they are black or white. Baby's skin is generally pretty pale until it has had a chance to mature and darken.
My point is, the baby would not necessarily have had any characteristics which would have immediately identified it as having had a black father. From the Doctor's perspective, it would very likely have been non-remarkable.
Well, according to the good Doctor Noble in post#61, where he states Actually, I had two women almost beaten to death in the recovery room for having a wrong color baby.
Either you’re mistaken or the doctor is. I’ll let the you two decide.
“The circular logic is just sad.”
Wemple’s a priori thinking, a logical fallacy in the #1 WaPo story today, is emblematic of how far journalism and public discourse and education have fallen.
I haven’t read through all the comment on the article but there were several articulate “birthers” pointing out the evident forgery of Barry’s BC in contrast to Wemple’s mindless and shameful claim that “The certificate proved that Obama was born in Hawaii.”
Either youre mistaken or the doctor is. Ill let the you two decide.
Or both of us could be right. In most cases, the race of the baby won't be apparent at birth. Sometimes it will.
The point is, you cannot draw conclusions from such a small amount of information. There simply isn't enough information to make a solid determination.
“Wemples a priori thinking, a logical fallacy in the #1 WaPo story today, is emblematic of how far journalism and public discourse and education have fallen.”
True. Yet when I read her opening lines, I had a sense that she was sending a signal. The signal was not that Obama was born in the USA; rather, it was a reminder that this is the line journolisters must toe.
Iow, there is almost a sense that MANY in the ‘journalistic’ community know the truth. But they
have to keep reminding each other to feed low info voters the official propaganda.
I feel like we’re at the part in Back to the Future when Doc Brown says, ‘When this sucker hits 88 miles an hour, you’re going to see some serious stuff’. Obama’s polls have dipped into lower 40s territory. If he every hits 39, we are going to see some serious stuff.
Nothing to wonder about. If he were truly born at Kapiolani, he would have done that during the 2008 campaign to end all the speculation.
But since he wasn't born there, any records created alleging that he was born there would be forgeries, and, judging from the phony image of the purported Hawaii birth certificate displayed on the White House web site in 2011, the White House isn't very capable in forging electronic images of documents.
No, Hitler had no Jewish ancestors that were known of. According to his own Nuremberg Laws, any person of 1/8 Jewish ancestry or more was to treated as a Jew and subject to atrocities administered by the Nazi state. Do you really think he would risk that himself if in fact he were 1/8 Jewish?
Yes, he was born in Austria and lived there through most of his youth.
No, McCain was not born in the US proper, but he was born in the Canal Zone, which, one can argue, was under the US flag at the time. And he was born in a US military facility.
Classic illustration of a Freudian slip on Hartman's part!
Let's see, the Kenyan himself said he was born in Kenya in his book bio, Grandma Sarah said he passed through her hands, Moo said it, the Hawaiian hospitals are keeping mum, the Kenyan Parliament are proud that a young man from Kenya could grow up to be POTUS, the African press printed it back when he was Senator, the US msm is still letting it slip, etc., etc., etc.
Then why wouldn’t the HI state registrar verify that Barack Hussein Obama, II, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961 in Honolulu on the island of Oahu, to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama, when asked point-blank in a legal request, and HI statute mandated that he verify each fact that he could certify as true - that is, legally presumed to be true (prima fascia evidence) because it is claimed on a legally-valid vital record?
Exactly. The only one who "knew him when" is Gov. Pothead who became governor only after he claimed to have known the happy little family back when. And his statements have been proven lies. Even Sr.'s college buddies wrote "Rememberances" of back in the day and they state flat out they didn't know a thing about the bouncing bundle of joy or of SAD. How does one keep a wife and half breed kid all hush-hush from your tight network of foreign student and sponor friends? Not to mention being on an island which is basically small town USA where everyone knows 5 minutes before you sneeze.
This is the closest anyone is going to get to a tour and I think it's faked just like everything else.
Many, many crimes have been committed to conceal the truth about Obama’s birth - including perjury, forgery, fraud, extortion, and murder. Do these things matter at all, or should we just poo-pooh the lawlessness within our entire system?
Did I really need a sarcasm tag?
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