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Small Businesses Cutting Jobs, Hours to Save Themselves From ObamaCare
The New American ^ | JUNE 23, 2013 | Michael Tennant

Posted on 06/23/2013 6:13:39 AM PDT by rickmichaels

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1 posted on 06/23/2013 6:13:39 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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“We were startled because we know that employers were concerned about the ... Act and the effects it would have on their business, but we didn’t realize ... that the businesses were being proactive to make sure the effects ... were minimized,”

Whoda thunk business would anticipate and react?

Just damn.

2 posted on 06/23/2013 6:16:49 AM PDT by Principled
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To: rickmichaels

Talk about unintended consequences..............................


3 posted on 06/23/2013 6:18:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: rickmichaels

which brings up the question:

was the provision about 30 hours put in obamacare to reduce our nation’s productivity?


4 posted on 06/23/2013 6:19:09 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Principled
"“We were startled because we know that employers were concerned about the ... Act and the effects it would have on their business, but we didn’t realize ... that the businesses were being proactive to make sure the effects ... were minimized we're idiots”"

There... fixed it

5 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:52 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Principled
talk about unintended consequences...

You think? Maybe the corporate globalists are just fine with a situation where small businesses can't grow.

6 posted on 06/23/2013 6:21:55 AM PDT by grania
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To: rickmichaels

I’ve been wondering, does the offering of “affordable” insurance include offering coverage for their children?

If so, this will mess up a lot of people who qualify for Medicaid or a higher up subsidized state plan for their children, but don’t if they have a chance to get it elsewhere.

Many many families are going to get caught in this trap.


7 posted on 06/23/2013 6:33:28 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Principled
but we didn’t realize ... that the businesses were being proactive to make sure the effects

Bureaucrats an politicians know nothing about business. That has been clear since they instituted affirmative action. The number one cause of blacks being denied entry level opportunity in a wide range of trades and fields...But at lest they vote Democrat!

8 posted on 06/23/2013 6:33:52 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Principled

My daughter is a nursing student. She told me that due to Obamacare, many hospitals are forcing per-diem nurses into staff nursing positions. Per-diem nurses receive much higher pay because they do not have benefits. Now the hospitals MUST provide insurance and are therefore eliminating per-diem and consequently cutting their pay substantially. I wonder how many of those nurses voted for the Marxofascist?


9 posted on 06/23/2013 6:34:51 AM PDT by Right Brother
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They are already trying to "fix" the full-time designation to keep workers from meeting the 29 hour work week:

Amid sporadic news of employers cutting workers' hours apparently to avoid Affordable Care Act requirements, two U.S. senators want to amend the law to redefine full-time as 40 hours per week.

All but small employers have to offer affordable insurance to employees working more than 30 hours per week or otherwise face a $2,000 fine — creating what Senator Susan Collins called “a perverse incentive for businesses to cut their employees' hours so they are no longer considered 'full time.'”

Collins, a Maine Republican, is joining Indiana Democrat Joe Donnelly in sponsoring the Forty Hours is Full Time Act, which would redefine the ACA’s weekly full-time classification to 40 hours per week and raise the number of hours counted toward full-time equivalency to 174 hours per month. Excerpt, read more here.


10 posted on 06/23/2013 6:35:33 AM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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Great, now America can be like Europe.


11 posted on 06/23/2013 6:36:28 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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I don’t think the number of hours was actually in the bill. The bill left it up to the “Commissioner” to decide how many hours would be considered fulltime.


12 posted on 06/23/2013 6:37:51 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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They could have easily predicted this is they had looked at the example of Hawaii, which had/has an employer mandate to purchase health insurance for employees working over 20 yours. The result: Lots of part time jobs with no employer paid health insurance.

To be fair, it’s not just ObamaCare. The burden of all kinds of employee regulations plus the demands of keeping up with making sure your employees are productive makes the decision to go with fewer employees a no-brainer for small business. In a really small business (say 20 or less people) many employers have found that they are working harder and longer hours, with more stress ... but not making any more money than when they were smaller (say 10-15 employees). There is a “dead profit zone” that is hard to overcome. So for many it makes no logical sense to expand.

There seems to be a break-out zone at somewhere around 30-35 employees when you can afford a full time compliance and HR person to handle all the paperwork, and managers to oversee productivity where it starts to make profitable sense to be larger. But Obmacare is going to push that zone upwards, which will make it harder for small businesses to grow incrementally because they’d have to jump over a larger “dead profit zone” at huge risk all at once.


13 posted on 06/23/2013 6:39:07 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: yldstrk

All to bring us to third worldism and in line with all other third world nations, it’s called fairness. Our potential is being purposely removed and replaced by dependency, our foundations are being infected with rot, our political arena compromised, criminals of all kinds are controlling the ship of fools guiding it slowly into the rocks. Everything they do is calculated and planned with and end result in mind and this end result does not include us or our children.


14 posted on 06/23/2013 6:41:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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Its “JUST” Starting!


15 posted on 06/23/2013 6:44:46 AM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: RobertClark

So instead of fixing the problem they just change the hours so employees can work longer and still not qualify for benefits.

I guess that’s someone’s idea of a fix.


16 posted on 06/23/2013 6:45:47 AM PDT by Venturer
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It will delay the riots and potentially delay some of the, inevitable, hatred toward the Dems as a result of being cut to 29 hours and having to work two jobs.

The deflection, if our side had any balls at all, should be easy. Unfortunately, I don't have much faith in our ability to communicate a coherent message that will resonate with people and make them understand what is taking place.

17 posted on 06/23/2013 6:52:31 AM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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I don’t have much faith in our ability to communicate a coherent message that will resonate with people and make them understand what is taking place.

Let’s put it this way. We haven’t
been able to communicate anything to them so far.


18 posted on 06/23/2013 6:58:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: rickmichaels

Here’s another idea:

NEVER HIRE ANOTHER DEMOCRAT


19 posted on 06/23/2013 7:01:41 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Th unintended consequences were intended by Obama and Co.


20 posted on 06/23/2013 7:34:07 AM PDT by spokeshave
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