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Left-lane highway hogs could see fines double for failure to move over (NJ)
Newark Star-Ledger via NJ.com ^ | June 26, 2013 at 4:33 PM | Mike Frassinelli

Posted on 06/27/2013 6:28:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Left-lane hogs, beware.

You could be charged double for failing to keep right under a bill passed Monday by the Assembly.

Motorists who clog the left or center lanes instead of using them to pass another vehicle would see fines increase from between $50 and $200 now to between $100 and $300. The bill calls for $50 from each violation going toward signs reminding motorists who enter New Jersey about the state’s stay-right law.

“On behalf of road rage, I move the bill,” said Assemblyman Gilbert “Whip” Wilson (D-Camden), a co-sponsor of the measure, which passed 69-7.

Aside from drinking and driving, failure to keep right is perhaps the most hazardous action on roadways, said Assemblyman Declan O’Scanlon (R-Monmouth), also a co-sponsor. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: highways; leftlanehogs; traffic; trafficfines
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1 posted on 06/27/2013 6:28:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
I'm always reminded of this video, that never fails to crack me up (note: turn off audio).
2 posted on 06/27/2013 6:32:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Olog-hai

We need this in Texas, if we don’t already have it.


3 posted on 06/27/2013 6:32:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Good!


4 posted on 06/27/2013 6:33:50 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Olog-hai

It is about time someone did this!!


5 posted on 06/27/2013 6:35:34 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died, now Obama covers up the lies.)
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To: Olog-hai

The fines should quintuple if the lane camper has traffic queued behind them with open road out front.


6 posted on 06/27/2013 6:37:49 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Olog-hai
Great. I was just thinking we need a few more (mother hen) laws on the books.

My youngest daughter refers to this kind of thing as "a first world problem".

7 posted on 06/27/2013 6:40:29 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Olog-hai
I have always assumed these people, driving in the left lane AT the speed limit, believed they were teaching the rest of us a lesson.

In light of recent events, I've since concluded they are just stupid, selfish, and unaware like 51% of the American electorate.

8 posted on 06/27/2013 6:41:10 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Olog-hai
I especially hate it when big trucks do it-- and then they have a sign on the back that says "Do not pass on the right".

Well, you know what, pal? If I have to pass you on the right, YOU'RE in the wrong lane. MOVE OVER!

9 posted on 06/27/2013 6:43:16 AM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Olog-hai

“The a vehicle has to stay right except when overtaking another vehicle or preparing for a left turn.”

Seems the way this law is written would effectively remove a lane from the highway. You can only dart in and out of the third lane but can’t remain in the fourth lane for any period of time even if the third lane traffic is moving relatively slow? It’s a good idea but the way it’s written is going to be shooting fish in a barrel for a cop in the mood to write tickets.


10 posted on 06/27/2013 6:48:00 AM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: Olog-hai

About damned time! Especially Pennsylvanians, who routinely block the left lane on highways in NJ. Whenever I see a huge knot of traffic, and 1/2 a mile of open lane in front of some driver in the left lane, 9 times out of 10, they’ve got Pennsylvania plates. I really don’t know why that is, but PA drivers are the worst when it comes to having a clue about driving on multi-lane highways.


11 posted on 06/27/2013 6:48:14 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: 1rudeboy

I applaud the cop in that video for using discretion to render a “learning” moment. From my recollection 15 years back however, most NJ highways are parking lots at certain choke points and stretches. I can see a potential abuse from “ambushing” to meet ticketing quotas.

An ambush is when you are in the passing lane and the cop is hanging in your blind spot and matching every speed change you make to prevent you from changing lanes. Speed up or slow down doesn’t matter, he has you pinned. In frustration after repeatedly changing speeds with my signal on, I gunned the gas and passed only to have the bubble gum machine blinking in my rear to give me a speeding ticket. True story.


12 posted on 06/27/2013 6:51:39 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Olog-hai

Poking along in the left lane? Prepare to pay (Seattle)
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/20656789.html?tab=video&c=y


13 posted on 06/27/2013 6:56:01 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Oratam
I have always assumed these people, driving in the left lane AT the speed limit, believed they were teaching the rest of us a lesson.

Left lane pluggers are typically hard core leftists. Leftism is motivated by envy, which is a side-effect of vanity. There is nothing leftists won't envy: your automobile size, your speed, how much salt you use, the size of your big gulp. They seek to level the playing field by plugging up traffic, making everyone's speed fair and equal. The cops do not appreciate the drop in highway robbery targets though.

14 posted on 06/27/2013 7:00:37 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Olog-hai
The greatest hazard to navigating are the New York drivers,
50 mph and in the center lane, completely oblivious to any thing around them...
15 posted on 06/27/2013 7:04:02 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t care if you’re going faster than the speed limit or not. If you’re not passing something (and the road is not congested in a way that justifies using all the lanes), get out of the left hand lane.

Oh, never mind. I’ve given up all hope of the state of driving on our roads ever improving. Not when we give out driver’s licenses to the barely competent, and almost all enforcement is of the (excessively low, in many cases) speed limits.


16 posted on 06/27/2013 7:05:10 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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To: Rumplemeyer
The greatest hazard to navigating are the New York drivers, ...

Yep! Also note, New Yorkers are not required to signal lane changes, New Jerseyans signal after the fact and only out-of-staters signal before changing lanes. That was my experience so it must be in the NJ driver's manual.

17 posted on 06/27/2013 7:10:49 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: bramps

“effectively remove a lane from the highway”

That’s the first thing I thought. The citations should be for those who don’t move over when they can, meaning, someone is actually coming up behind them.

I’m driving through Jersey next week and will see how this works in practical terms.


18 posted on 06/27/2013 7:13:57 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: bramps

“Pass only on the left and yield the left lane to faster cars” is standard practice in Germany on the Autobahn. Don’t know if that is by law or custom but it works really, really well.

I wish every state would adopt it.


19 posted on 06/27/2013 7:15:54 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Olog-hai

IMHO the greatest cause of highway accidents.


20 posted on 06/27/2013 7:17:22 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: trubolotta

In Texas turn signals are a suggestion... the driver is thinking of going left or right but haven’t made up his mind yet. /s


21 posted on 06/27/2013 7:17:32 AM PDT by ken in texas (The Obama Excuse: They never told me and I didn't ask.)
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To: Michael.SF.
For years the Illinois Rules of the Road had precisely one phrase CAPITALIZED, Bolded, and underlined: THE LEFT LANE IS FOR PASSING ONLY (or words to that effect).

When I was learning to drive I was told one of the most important rules was to drive so you could "hit the ditch" in an emergency. Hard to do when you're in the left lane.

22 posted on 06/27/2013 7:19:02 AM PDT by Boojum
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To: trubolotta

“required to signal lane changes”

Unfortunately, just like folks blocking left lanes, there are folks that zoom up and block your path when you signal. It’s much more common in urban areas. In those places, signalling will typically prevent you from getting where you need to go so folks are “trained” to signal only when someone else can’t do anything about it.

I put those type of “blockers” in the same category as the left lane folks since, when I’ve tried to pass such folks on the right, most of the time they speed up. Some outright flooring it to prevent me from getting ahead of them.


23 posted on 06/27/2013 7:23:45 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Cyman

Arrogant assholes who drive too fast are a MAJOR cause .I wish all you bragging about speeding would get daily tickets!

If you think the speed laws are too low,then campaign to have them raised.


24 posted on 06/27/2013 7:26:06 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Olog-hai
"Motorists who clog the left or center lanes instead of using them to pass another vehicle would see fines increase from between $50 and $200 now to between $100 and $300. The bill calls for $50 from each violation going toward signs reminding motorists who enter New Jersey about the state’s stay-right law."

More signs isn't a bad idea, I think I've seen one, once -- but the law isn't being enforced now, and may never have been. I've never heard of anyone getting a ticket for it in NJ -- 0 x $50 will pay for exactly 0 new signs.

25 posted on 06/27/2013 7:26:47 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Olog-hai

Something correct!
Right lane for cursing, middle and left for passing.......


26 posted on 06/27/2013 7:28:52 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Reeses

Out on the open Interstate highways I wonder if people using cruise control go brain dead. It’s aggravating to pull up behind someone that’s slowly overtaking a truck until the highway starts a slight downgrade. Then the truck starts pulling ahead, only to start falling behind on the next upgrade, but the idiot won’t accelerate a little to get it over with. It’s as if people think the gas pedal won’t work if they have cruise control engaged.


27 posted on 06/27/2013 7:29:54 AM PDT by ken in texas (The Obama Excuse: They never told me and I didn't ask.)
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To: Reeses
Left lane pluggers are typically hard core leftists.

"...and they drive with pride...."

28 posted on 06/27/2013 7:31:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

If the speed limit - the law - is 65, why are people attempting to pass when you are traveling at 65 ?

I have received speeding tickets when I was young. I was driving faster than the posted speed limit.

I refuse to be forced to drive faster than the speed limit.

No one is going to force me into getting a ticket.

If traffic on a 65-mph road is moving at 55, then anyone is legally entitled to travel in the left lane, since they are passing those going 55 in the center lane.

If someone wants to drive 85 in the left lane and has to slow down to the legal limit of 65, that’s just too bad.

Nothing in the law supports driving over the speed limit except for while a driver is in the process of passing.

If you cruise for miles and miles at 80+ in the left lane, you are breaking the law.


29 posted on 06/27/2013 7:38:59 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: fruser1

That has been my experience too. It can be difficult dealing with generations of drivers so inculcated with phony self-esteem. “Letting” someone get ahead “their lane” would demolish their self-image. What a bunch of selfish losers they are.


30 posted on 06/27/2013 7:43:40 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Olog-hai

Nice. Hopefully this will be equally enforced against those people who think the left lane is the “fast lane” and that they can stay in it flying 20 mph over the speed limit.


31 posted on 06/27/2013 7:53:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sicon

” I really don’t know why that is, but PA drivers are the worst when it comes to having a clue about driving on multi-lane highways.”

Here in Eastern PA, it is always New Jersey drivers who are gumming up the works.


32 posted on 06/27/2013 7:54:07 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Olog-hai

It has to do with common courtesy. If someone is coming up behind you, move to the right. It should not even have to be a law, it should be nothing more than a recognition of your fellow man. Oh damn, must have been dreaming. There for a second I was thinking that most people really might give a $#!*.


33 posted on 06/27/2013 8:12:22 AM PDT by Temujinshordes
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To: Olog-hai

Contrarian that I am, I see a problem here. More than once, I’ve been forced into the left/middle lane, or forced to slam on my brakes, by some idjit merging onto the road (I guess their teacher never taught them the meaning of “yield”). My aunt was severely injured when some fool “merged” onto the interstate right on top of her.

So, I tend to get over when coming up on an exit and just because some Mario Andretti wannabe is barreling up the road at over 20 mph over the limit doesn’t mean I’m going to risk a speeding ticket. I’ll do 10, maybe 15 mph over, but I like having affordable car insurance.


34 posted on 06/27/2013 8:12:29 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: svcw

Bless her heart my mother in law who I really do love like a second mom will not get out of the left lane for anything, she camps and cannot figure out why people ride here bumper and pass her on the right. I always dread driving with her.


35 posted on 06/27/2013 8:16:56 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: PieterCasparzen

Obviously it varys by state. In WV the troopers don’t bat an eye at 80mph unless you’ve got NJ or NY plates. Then they’ll nail you while the locals speed by. I like the folks from Kentucky that drive through the state. They’re strictly pedal to the metal.


36 posted on 06/27/2013 8:19:03 AM PDT by meatloaf (3)
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To: Olog-hai

QUESTION—
How come people with handicapped plates drive so slow? How come tradesmen driving vans drive so slow? I always avoid getting behind a van....driver is usually an idiot as far as moving along

If I was handicapped I would drive really fast


37 posted on 06/27/2013 8:19:27 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: ken in texas

In the People’s Police State of New Jersey it’s a good idea to use cruise control at the speed limit almost all the time, even in 25 mph zones. I greatly appreciate people going faster in left lane to take the highway robbery attention off me. When I use the left lane, the car I’m passing often speeds up which leaves me plugging the left lane for too long. Sorry about that! I do my best to get you back to running cover for me.


38 posted on 06/27/2013 8:23:02 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: dennisw

>How come tradesmen driving vans drive so slow? <

The more weight in or on the vehicle the harder it is to stop. Not to mention the fact that full size vans do NOT handle like the average VW Jetta.


39 posted on 06/27/2013 8:26:17 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Olog-hai
Aside from drinking and driving, failure to keep right is perhaps the most hazardous action on roadways...

I would say the most hazardous thing is failure to yield to the driver in the leftmost lane - as in they see you signaling to change lanes rightward and speed up to get past you on the right before you can make the change. Pure jackassery. Or they change lanes left in front of faster-moving traffic without increasing their speed to match the traffic flow.

The prima facie speed limit is 65 or 70 - in California it's understood even by the CHP that the real limits are more like 75 and 80. 90 seems to be where the tickets get written. On I-15 north out of San Diego if you go 85 in the middle lane you'll have people passing you on both sides. I think 85 is a fairly safe real limit. Things are far apart in the West. At 65 you'll never get anywhere. :).

40 posted on 06/27/2013 8:29:20 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Olog-hai
Despite the numerous signs saying "Keep right except to pass" here in Colorado, most people still don't know that it is not only good driving etiquette, but state law that you keep to the right.

I think it's a matter ignorance for most, but ego for some. Nobody wants to drive in the "slow lane".

We need to change the terminology. It shouldn't be "fast lane" and "slow lane", it should be "passing lane" and "non-passing lane". And, we should be able to hose down cars that hang out in the passing lane with paintballs if they don't move over.

I just got back from Germany, where they take this stuff seriously. You don't want to be traveling slowly in the left lane when that Audi station wagon approaches at 225 KPH from out of nowhere.

41 posted on 06/27/2013 8:44:35 AM PDT by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: hoosierham
Arrogant assholes who drive too fast are a MAJOR cause .I wish all you bragging about speeding would get daily tickets!

Left lane hog for sure.

Do you have a condescending sign in your rear window that says "If you are passing me, you are speeding!"?

You secretly voted for Obama, didn't you?

42 posted on 06/27/2013 8:54:27 AM PDT by Washi (PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
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To: Olog-hai

If Owe’Malley wanted to do something useful for a change, he would champion this law in Maryland. Especially on route 70.


43 posted on 06/27/2013 9:09:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: fruser1
I put those type of “blockers” in the same category as the left lane folks since, when I’ve tried to pass such folks on the right, most of the time they speed up. Some outright flooring it to prevent me from getting ahead of them.

You're never supposed to pass on the right. It is inherently dangerous, since the driver is on the left of the vehicle and you therefore enter the other car's blind spot. Also, cars in any other lanes are supposed to be given the leeway to pull over to the right when they signal without being cut off from behind.

I agree that some people seem to make a great sport of not giving your signal any courtesy and trying to keep you from moving to the lane you signal for, whether left or right. But doing it on the right is extremely dangerous.

44 posted on 06/27/2013 9:16:05 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Rumplemeyer

Nah — Baltimore has the worst drivers anywhere. And I’ve driven in Italy.


45 posted on 06/27/2013 9:17:55 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Reeses

A few years ago, I was stuck behind a lane camper running next to a heavily loaded semi maxing at 50 in a 65. I bided my time, then gave a quick flash of the headlights which were ignored. I flashed again. Finally the lane camper hardcore leftist driving a car with teachers union bumper stickers moved over and grabbed her phone.

My wife asked what she was doing. I told her she was calling the police so I obliged her by pulling in front to give her a good view of my license plate.

Of course, I did not get pulled over.


46 posted on 06/27/2013 9:28:41 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-NOT IN MY TROOP)
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To: trubolotta

“The greatest hazard to navigating are the New York drivers”

Or in the town where my father lives. Coming back from breakfast out one morning he drove 35-40 on a 55 four lane for 8 miles.


47 posted on 06/27/2013 9:34:04 AM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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To: Reeses

LOL. I don’t drive fast enough to run cover for anyone, probably going only 1 or 2 mph faster than the car in front.


48 posted on 06/27/2013 10:06:58 AM PDT by ken in texas (The Obama Excuse: They never told me and I didn't ask.)
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To: PieterCasparzen
"If someone wants to drive 85 in the left lane and has to slow down to the legal limit of 65, that’s just too bad."

Hopefully you will never be in a position of trying to get a family member to a hospital in an emergency and get stuck behind someone like yourself. That would just be too bad for you, wouldn't it?

49 posted on 06/27/2013 12:09:58 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Washi

Many times I have been unable to move right because the self-important speedsters are passing me on the right at well above the speed limit.

And no I didn’t vote for obama or clintoon.

Drive like hell,you’ll get there.


50 posted on 06/27/2013 12:32:05 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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