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Is cursive writing dead?
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Posted on 06/28/2013 1:29:33 PM PDT by TigerClaws

A single sentence, uttered in the trial of George Zimmerman for the shooting of teenager Trayvon Martin, has catapulted an issue into the national spotlight.

When asked if she could read a letter in court, witness Rachel Jeantel, her head bowed, murmured with embarrassment, "I don't read cursive," according to court testimony.

Is it any surprise that cursive -- the looped, curvaceous style of handwriting that's been a mainstay of education for generations -- is all but dead? [15 Weird Things We Do Everyday, and Why]

"Cursive should be allowed to die. In fact, it's already dying, despite having been taught for decades," Morgan Polikoff, assistant professor of education at the University of Southern California's Rossier School of Education, told The New York Times.

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To: gov_bean_ counter

Correct. It is important and was at one time a part of the curriculum in Oregon’s public schools.


101 posted on 06/28/2013 2:02:07 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: TigerClaws

Cursive is White Privilege.

Script fonts are racist


102 posted on 06/28/2013 2:02:17 PM PDT by CrappieLuck
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To: TigerClaws
Eliminating cursive writing is a bad idea. In addition to all the points raised in this thread by others, I'll add one more: It takes effort to write things by hand.

That may not make any sense, but I'm a very good writer as an adult -- and I attribute it partially to the care I took as a kid when writing by hand as carefully as possible to avoid mistakes, avoid crossing things out, etc.

103 posted on 06/28/2013 2:02:18 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: SatinDoll

Homeschoolers, in general, have their children learning cursive at least by 3rd grade, and usually sooner.

There are good reasons for it, as you have stated.


104 posted on 06/28/2013 2:02:23 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Irenic

Somehow I don’t think people using cursive is going to stop that. It was an annoying and post dated thing when I had to learn it in the 70s, and now there’s computers making it even MORE post dated.


105 posted on 06/28/2013 2:02:40 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; FredZarguna; Kenny Bunk; JimSEA

“The elephant in the room that CBS ignored is that, if the witness can’t read it, she must not have written it.”

Look! Let’s end this fallacy! It has been acknowledged and testified to, that she did NOT write the letter! A “friend” did. She can probably only read twitter talk.


106 posted on 06/28/2013 2:02:41 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TigerClaws

“Cussive” writing on Twitter is the new fashion.


107 posted on 06/28/2013 2:02:43 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: TigerClaws
Our great, great grandchildren will stare as stupidly at the Constitution as illiterate peasants from the Dark Ages stared at Latin Bibles.

That is one ugly word picture you paint there, TC. Another one for the "Sad But True" file, I guess.

108 posted on 06/28/2013 2:03:22 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: TigerClaws

[[Rachel Jeantel, her head bowed, murmured with embarrassment, “I don’t read cursive,”]]

Yeeeeeah- cuz cursive letters look so much diffint dan regula lettahs... oh wait, no they don’ts


109 posted on 06/28/2013 2:03:36 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: TigerClaws

Sooooo....how are folks supposed to read handwritten documents of the past if they can’t read cursive?


110 posted on 06/28/2013 2:03:40 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: discostu

I can’t stand to print.


111 posted on 06/28/2013 2:04:15 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yup, same here. Doing crosswords in pen also helped.


112 posted on 06/28/2013 2:04:37 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Arguing with a marxist is like playing Chess with a Pigeon.)
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To: Timber Rattler

You’re being facetious, I know, but you point out one of the tenets of the Humanist religion -

nothing from the past has any value, so why bother reading about it.


113 posted on 06/28/2013 2:04:52 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TigerClaws

It’s criminal, in my opinion, but no, cursive is not taught today. Most of my students do not know how to read it — but I still use it! (It’s good for them to see it and in my opinion, it should be taught — along with spelling and grammar!) Too much reliance on modern technology is part of the problem, but programs like “spell check” will not tell a student whether or not they used a word correctly: there, their, or they’re?


114 posted on 06/28/2013 2:05:00 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: TigerClaws

[[One teacher who was trying to do it on the sly got in trouble for it, and he had to stop.”]]

What the hell was the teacher charged with? Illegally tryign to improve her student’s comunication skills?


115 posted on 06/28/2013 2:05:20 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: TigerClaws

Writing will soon be dead, as well.

P.S. This is a photo of a page from an Ethiopian Bible manuscript.

116 posted on 06/28/2013 2:05:28 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: TigerClaws

Um...I heard that letter that she couldn’t read the “cursive writing” on, was a letter she had claimed to have written herself. So, that being, does that mean she can’t read her own hand writing?

What an azzhoe


117 posted on 06/28/2013 2:06:43 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: TigerClaws

I started printing when I was a freshman or sophomore in high school.


118 posted on 06/28/2013 2:07:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bboop

In the early days of slavery, men like George Whitefield encouraged people to teach slaves to read because they were expected to be freed at some point and they would need to be educated and self sufficient.

By the time we got to the civil war era, the democrats were making it illegal to teach slaves to read because ignorance is slavery. They’re doing the same today.


119 posted on 06/28/2013 2:08:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TigerClaws
You just have to remember to put <font face=script> in front of what you write to make it cursive. Even first graders can type that.
120 posted on 06/28/2013 2:08:33 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: Lucky9teen

I may be wrong, but I thought that someone said on another thread that someone else had written what she said. Perhaps she’s illiterate?


121 posted on 06/28/2013 2:08:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TigerClaws

I never cease to be amazed at the msm’s ability to shift the narrative from the obvious to the inane.


122 posted on 06/28/2013 2:09:36 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: TigerClaws

You know, I wouldn’t put it past these rabid liberal oppressors. The are as evil as the day is long during the summer solstice.

The whole purpose of cursive writing is speed of execution. It is much easier to flow from one letter to another than in block letter writing. But as you say, our rich and profound history is bound in cursive writing.


123 posted on 06/28/2013 2:09:50 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: freedom1st
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124 posted on 06/28/2013 2:10:29 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The prosecutor personally picked her up, escorted by Trayvon's mother and two police cruisers. Instead of riding to the police station or the attorney's office, where statements/depositions are usually taken, she rode in the back of the police car with the victim's mother to her home, and made the statement while the mother was present, thus guaranteeing she would be under enormous pressure to exaggerate her knowledge of the crime in favor of the victim.

It's nothing short of disgusting.

125 posted on 06/28/2013 2:10:30 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Separated by a common language.)
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To: TigerClaws

Cursive should be dead, right along with hieroglyphics.


126 posted on 06/28/2013 2:10:34 PM PDT by Wellington VII
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To: KarlInOhio
Like this? :)
127 posted on 06/28/2013 2:10:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: KarlInOhio
You've done it now! :)
128 posted on 06/28/2013 2:11:39 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: cripplecreek

Nice!


129 posted on 06/28/2013 2:11:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TigerClaws

Story from my Yute, as pronounced by Joe Pesci.

We moved from New York to California when I was seven years old. When we first arrived, I attended Second Grade in the Los Angeles Unified School District. The next year we moved and I attended Third Grade in the Glendale Unified School District.

On the first day in my new school, the Third Grade Teacher (Mrs. Alcorn) gave the class a writing assignment. It was to be done in Long Hand (cursive). Problem was, the Los Angeles School District taught cursive in Third Grade, while the Glendale School District taught it in Second Grade. Needless to say, I remember being very nervous, not wanting to disappoint my new Teacher.

My solution was to look above the Chalk Board at the cursive style alphabet and copy each letter as written, being sure to connect every last letter in each word. As you can imagine, the Teacher noticed my struggle and asked if I knew how to write in long hand.

Next thing you know, there is a Parent / Teacher meeting and my dear Mother took over the task of teaching me cursive writing so I could keep up with the Class.

I’m sure the entire experience scarred me for life.

That being said, how can a 19 Year Old Girl, and we all know girls are smarter that boys, be a High School JUNIOR and not be literate in cursive style writing? I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed, but at age seven I still knew what the letters meant, even if I wasn’t taught how to write them correctly on an assignment.

They Live, and we’re the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.


130 posted on 06/28/2013 2:13:35 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They can follow the Communist, I'll follow the Constitution...)
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See: Common core


131 posted on 06/28/2013 2:14:49 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: moose07
So if we do this the young and dumb won't know we're plotting their overthrow?
132 posted on 06/28/2013 2:15:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: TigerClaws
I never hear much discussion about the necessity of cursive to read old documents. I often pore through old probate files and land records while my family's history. All those old documents are hand written, in cursive.

And, of course, America's founding documents are written in cursive. If you can't read them, so much the better to liberal educators. If students can't read the constitution as it was originally written, or the Declaration of Independence as it was originally written, they have no other choice than to read the block print version presented to them.

Student thus may never discover that the phrase is "unalienable rights" not "inalienable rights" in the Declaration of Independence, and what, if anything, is different between the prefixes "un" and "in" anyway. Maybe some students would be curious.

A student thus deprived of being able to read cursive is not able to research and learn from any original documents written in cursive. I think that's a shame.

I liken it to people who can't read an analog clock. When all they can read is digital, they don't see the passage of time as the hands move, they don't see the relationship of quarters circles to whole circles and movement of time, etc.

There is so much more to learning and reasoning than just being able to decipher block letter or digital printing.

133 posted on 06/28/2013 2:15:38 PM PDT by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: TigerClaws

My granddaughter, a second grader, has the most beautiful cursive....(she goes to a private school)...the public schools have stopped teaching it.


134 posted on 06/28/2013 2:16:25 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: SatinDoll; gov_bean_ counter

There is a drawing exercise you can do that helps you focus your brain into using the right hemisphere. You try to draw your hand without looking at the paper. I suspect that cursive writing and calligraphy do much the same thing. Hand writing is a lost art form, IMO.


135 posted on 06/28/2013 2:17:17 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: TigerClaws

Cursive handwriting is much more than a style of writing. It tells a lot about our personality, character, and above all it is the written way to express who we are.


136 posted on 06/28/2013 2:17:22 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: SatinDoll
Don’t kid yourself. It wasn’t just writing practice

Never said it was.

As a matter of fact, sometimes it wasn't even during lessons.

In my eighth grade class the boys were on one side of the room and the girls were on the other. One morning a nun walked down between the two rows of boys swinging her yardstick with criminal abandon. After three of four hits apiece, she informed us it was to "discourage us for things we were going to do."

Then we all stood up and said our prayer to start class.

137 posted on 06/28/2013 2:17:43 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Separated by a common language.)
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To: FredZarguna

“She can’t read, and the defense clearly knew this when they asked her to read the letter she’d supposedly written.”

You’re right. If you’ve ever met someone in those circumstances, it is really sad. Growing up around crackers, I always assumed everyone could read; only when I was older did I realize that one of them couldn’t.


138 posted on 06/28/2013 2:18:30 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: RightField

So well written — and thank you!!! Education is NEVER a waste. Knowledge is power. It’s disturbing (to say the least) when conservatives are making the libs’ arguments for them! (Maybe these are the same people who think “spell check” takes care of everything??)


139 posted on 06/28/2013 2:18:47 PM PDT by JLLH
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To: massgopguy

Inching ever closer to the mark of the beast.


140 posted on 06/28/2013 2:20:26 PM PDT by k4gypsyrose
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To: GQuagmire

I don’t write in cursive because my cursive handwriting is even harder to read (even for me) than my printing. And aside from my signature, I don’t remember how to write in cursive anymore.


141 posted on 06/28/2013 2:20:49 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (The average American voter is an idiot. Which is how the Dems want it.)
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To: KarlInOhio
And even first graders can read it.
142 posted on 06/28/2013 2:21:02 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Separated by a common language.)
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To: willywill

Makes me feel good...I had no idea what cursive is...we called it penmanship in school. In the Navy when keeping log books, printing was insisted on...at least we called it printing? Maybe Non-cursive??

All the way through college I was a printer...if I had to write anything other than my name in cursive, I’d be lost. Take several pages a day of meeting notes all in print form.


143 posted on 06/28/2013 2:21:32 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: DuncanWaring

“I wonder if she can read printed text.”

A lot of her text messages are in evidence; so, apparently she can read and write (after a fashion) printed text.


144 posted on 06/28/2013 2:22:22 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: TigerClaws

Nope. Just Trayvon. (hehe)


145 posted on 06/28/2013 2:22:30 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Irenic

Good for you. I’ve never used cursive by choice, only did it when school assignments called for it, and the minute school was in my rearview mirror cursive was on the curb next to it... actually it probably was there first, since school switched to type written stuff in high school.


146 posted on 06/28/2013 2:22:40 PM PDT by discostu (Go do the voodoo that you do so well.)
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To: Borges

“Don’t believe everything you see on the Internet.” - Abraham Lincoln


147 posted on 06/28/2013 2:23:31 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (The average American voter is an idiot. Which is how the Dems want it.)
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To: varmintman

“Particularly in an age of keyboards and Dragon software, I don’t see a need for it.”

That Dragon software is creepy; it seems designed to allow a foreigner (not a poorly-educated American, who might want vacation days or benefits) to take more work from Americans. I’ve seen something similar in a national convenience store chain in my area; the older American women who used to make the sandwiches have been replaced by non-English speaking Hispanics, who only interact with a screen (after you’ve typed, in English and using pictures, what you want on your sandwich).

Very creepy.


148 posted on 06/28/2013 2:23:55 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: nomad

They wouldn’t commit suicide, they’d just go feral.


149 posted on 06/28/2013 2:25:13 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: TigerClaws

How about signatures? My bet is kids are taught only enought to sign their name to apply for welfare and food stamps. It’s really sad that schools no longer teach our children basic skills and instead just indoctrinate them into a mindless entitlement society.


150 posted on 06/28/2013 2:26:45 PM PDT by TonyM
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