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Witness: Zimmerman on Bottom of Fight
Fox8.com ^ | 6/28/2013 | Graham Winch and Amanda Sloane

Posted on 06/28/2013 6:45:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

A prosecution witness testified in the George Zimmerman trial Friday that he saw the former neighborhood watch captain on the bottom of a mixed martial arts-style fight with 17-year-old Trayvon Martin the night Martin was fatally shot.

Jonathan Good said he heard a faint noise coming from the back of his home in the Retreat at Twin Lakes on Feb. 26, 2012. When he heard a louder noise, he went outside to investigate. He said he saw two men engaged in a “tussle”...

Good was the 17th witness to take the stand in the trial of Zimmerman, who is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting of Martin in Sanford, Florida. Zimmerman told police he followed the teenager because there had been some recent break-ins in the area. He says he was forced to shoot Martin during their confrontation in self-defense.

On the trial’s fifth day, Good recounted being 15 to 20 feet away from the fight between Zimmerman and Martin. Although he couldn’t make out the faces of the people on the ground, Good said he could make out the color of their clothes.

In crucial testimony that appears to buttress the defense’s argument, Good said the person on top during the fight was wearing a black top like the black hoodie sweatshirt Martin had on that night, and the person on the bottom was wearing red. Zimmerman was wearing a similar color that night.

Good said it seemed like the person on the bottom was yelling for help. Good said he saw the person on top “straddling” the person on the bottom and the person on top was moving their hands in a downward striking motion that looked like what he called a “ground and pound,” a term associated with MMA or mixed martial arts fighting.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: trayvon; zimmerman
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1 posted on 06/28/2013 6:45:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s going to be a hot summer.


2 posted on 06/28/2013 6:46:16 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yeah ... seems like the prosecution witnesses are giving Zimmerman more credibility than not.


3 posted on 06/28/2013 6:46:46 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: BBell

And long.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 6:46:54 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: BBell

Good. Lets get it over with. Better us than our kids dealing with worse.


5 posted on 06/28/2013 6:47:36 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: RoosterRedux
Witness: Zimmerman on Bottom of Fight

I can't believe how many articles today have relayed this information as if it's somehow shocking! This was pretty much established from the get-go.

6 posted on 06/28/2013 6:48:02 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: RoosterRedux

So now we know little Trayvon was the racist and agressor. I hope the judge dismisses the charges after the close of the prosecution’s case. But we know that won’t happen.


7 posted on 06/28/2013 6:48:13 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: knarf

I have noticed the same thing. The prosecution witnesses seem to be helping the defense.


8 posted on 06/28/2013 6:49:08 PM PDT by yarddog (Just another pretty face.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Does anyone else get the idea that the prosecution is intentionally throwing this case? I mean, come on, every one of the “witnesses” to date have either supported the defense or have suffered major credibility issues.

I can’t see, short of outright bribery or blackmail, how anyone could vote to convict. But we all know what will happen if a “not guilty” verdict is returned.

I would not want to be living in any major American city when the verdict is released.


9 posted on 06/28/2013 6:51:13 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: RoosterRedux

Game, set, match. Case dismissed.


10 posted on 06/28/2013 6:52:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: RoosterRedux

If these witnesses for the prosecution are their best witnesses the prosecution must be very sorry they brought charges.


11 posted on 06/28/2013 6:52:53 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: knarf
Yeah ... seems like the prosecution witnesses are giving Zimmerman more credibility than not.

Makes one wonder if the state isn't pushing this case to exonerate themselves...not the defendant.

Riots are most likely going to happen. That is the ultimate goal of Obama's war of division. That is the goal of community organizing.

Those who refuse to assimilate (the Antisocial Minorities) must rebel at some point.

And the societies against which they rebel will either accept their rebellion and change to incorporate it...or they will reject it as non-productive.

The question is...is the rebellion of the Antisocial minorities productive...or is it not.

If their rebellion is non-productive...it will eventually die...probably sooner rather than later.

12 posted on 06/28/2013 6:54:05 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: RoosterRedux

Prosecution witness?


13 posted on 06/28/2013 6:54:17 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: kaehurowing

14 posted on 06/28/2013 6:54:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: RoosterRedux
I still think the fix is in. The jury pool was stacked and coached to give favorable answers that the defense swallowed. The jury will go into deliberation in a few days, will sit around sipping on colas and doodling for a few hours, for appearances, and then come out with their predetermined verdict.

When all this come out in a few years, we will no longer be a recognizable republic anyway, so it won't faze anyone.

15 posted on 06/28/2013 6:54:35 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: RoosterRedux

If fate has it that Zimmerman is going to win, hope this trial runs into the winter months. Seldom do Obama’s sons riot when it is cold ... hard to carry a new TV in the snow. Just sayn’


16 posted on 06/28/2013 6:55:28 PM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: Ronin

“””I can’t see, short of outright bribery or blackmail, how anyone could vote to convict. But we all know what will happen if a “not guilty” verdict is returned.”””

I have been on several juries. Never underestimate the stupidity of the average American.


17 posted on 06/28/2013 6:55:44 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy

There is that... After all, look at OJ.


18 posted on 06/28/2013 6:57:29 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Ronin
Does anyone else get the idea that the prosecution is intentionally throwing this case?

I don't think they are throwing the case...just presenting it--lame as it is.

That is the political side of things. The prosecution has done its job and it can go home without further hassle.

Now cue the rioters.

19 posted on 06/28/2013 6:57:34 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: Ronin

The prosecution is discovering that you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken ****.


20 posted on 06/28/2013 6:58:23 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: RoosterRedux

What kind of country have we become that feral inner city animals will riot if a Latin who dispatched a 17-y/o thug is acquitted?


21 posted on 06/28/2013 6:58:42 PM PDT by twister881
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To: kaehurowing

Zimmerman was the one running after Martin.


22 posted on 06/28/2013 7:00:01 PM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: shelterguy

For around four months, maybe 20 years ago, I had nothing to do but wait. I watched a lot of “Court TV”.

I am not sure of the right word. Maybe it is shocked but whatever I decided I never want to go before an American jury, at least if I am innocent.


23 posted on 06/28/2013 7:02:41 PM PDT by yarddog (Just another pretty face.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I agree with that.


24 posted on 06/28/2013 7:03:44 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: JennysCool

Not shocking, but I think some people believe the wounds to the back of Zimmerman’s head were self-inflicted. So this is actually an important witness.


25 posted on 06/28/2013 7:04:09 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: RoosterRedux; All

I will be arming myself....

Some of the Black Racists are making threats of riots....Those racists dont realize, that, if Zimmerman is acquitted...it will be easier to cap their black racist arses


26 posted on 06/28/2013 7:05:13 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: Ronin
Does anyone else get the idea that the prosecution is intentionally throwing this case?

Yes.

The masses demanded a trial, so the public servants complied. I don't really see it as the prosecutors throwing the trial as I see that they have very little to work with.

27 posted on 06/28/2013 7:06:24 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: RoosterRedux

This is what happens when you have a prosecution team that was never interested in the truth, all they wanted to do was please the race baiters and give them what they wanted..as far as Im concerned the case is already over..all the defense needs is reasonable doubt and Zimmerman walks and there is so much doubt in this case it can fill a room..Zimmerman should NEVER have been charged to begin with


28 posted on 06/28/2013 7:07:21 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Ronin

Well, I get the idea that at least in some sense the prosecution wishes it would go away, that they can see they are between a rock and a hard place.


29 posted on 06/28/2013 7:10:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: yarddog

I have not seen any evidence that should convict Zimmerman. It is a political witch-hunt. I don’t know why the judge just does not throw out the case...there is no incriminating evidence.


30 posted on 06/28/2013 7:10:41 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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some people believe the wounds to the back of Zimmerman’s head were self-inflicted.

Wow. So many idiots.

31 posted on 06/28/2013 7:13:30 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Ronin
Does anyone else ge the idea that the prosecution is intentionally throwing this case?

Yes. Told my brother the same thing today.

32 posted on 06/28/2013 7:13:58 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: RoosterRedux
And a long weekend for the jury, too.

What a lasting impression those witnesses made, one that likely will last all weekend and all the way to "case dismissed".

And, what a gift this trial has been!

So many of our problems are on display for all to witness and examine, and whose testimonies all point to the same cause and verdict.

If only we could be our own more enlightened, higher information jury of peers with the eyes to see and the ears to hear.

33 posted on 06/28/2013 7:16:00 PM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Animal Farm meets 1984 in A Brave New World. Crony capitalism, chaos and control.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I have seen many political sure wins fail.
For all the legal wrangling, just need 6 people to say one word.
This administration knows how to persuade the few who do in fact hold power.


34 posted on 06/28/2013 7:16:10 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Gee, the prosecution witness seems to be saying George Zimmerman TOLD THE TRUTH.

George Zimmerman’s attacker got shot. George Zimmerman was the victim.


35 posted on 06/28/2013 7:17:17 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Texas Songwriter
The state isn't intentionally throwing the case. It is just presenting a case that was politically demanded...and such case is losing.

Ergo, the state has done it's job...don't blame us.

36 posted on 06/28/2013 7:18:39 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: Ronin
Does anyone else get the idea that the prosecution is intentionally throwing this case?

Abolutely not!

The prosecution is doing their very best to send GZ to prison for the rest of his life. They will suborn perjury, lie, distort, impugn, whatever is necessary to achieve their intended goal.

These are contemptible men without honor, truly vile humans to whom their own personal & political gain trumps any morality or desire to seek justice.

37 posted on 06/28/2013 7:20:53 PM PDT by RugerMini14
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To: ctdonath2
Wow. That would be a powerful statement by a corrupt administration.

If Obama intervenes...he will move revolution nearer the start button.

38 posted on 06/28/2013 7:21:46 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: RoosterRedux

slogans for the desperate prosecution:

“If he’s a cracker, he’s the attacker” ™


39 posted on 06/28/2013 7:25:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
If the witness's a shit
Do not acquit!

40 posted on 06/28/2013 7:27:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeminoleCounty

black gangs have shootouts with hundreds of rounds fired and the only one hit is a 6 year old down the street.

and now they want to start a race war?

Good luck with that....


41 posted on 06/28/2013 7:28:48 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Revolting cat!

Uh...That’s why I like dogs better than cats.


42 posted on 06/28/2013 7:29:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RoosterRedux

I can’t believe the prosecution put this guy on the stand. What were they thinking? Whether you believe this guy or Ms. Creole Porkchop, the prosecution practically nuked their own case. What is it about “reasonable doubt” the prosecution doesn’t understand. If some kid has you on the ground and is punching your lights out and you have a gun in your hand, why would you *not* use it? You have no assurance the puncher is not trying to kill you.


43 posted on 06/28/2013 7:30:54 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: doc1019
If fate has it that Zimmerman is going to win, hope this trial runs into the winter months. Seldom do Obama’s sons riot when it is cold ... hard to carry a new TV in the snow. Just sayn’

The likelihood of Zimmerman prevailing is pretty remote.If,by chance,he's acquitted...or the state throws up its hands after a couple of hung juries...Attorney Corporal Holder will take a crack at him.He picks the judge...picking an OJ-type jury isn't difficult...the entire resources of the United States government dropped on top of him.Just think Osama Obama.His current title proves irrefutably that in this country race trumps *everything*.

44 posted on 06/28/2013 7:32:18 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: FewsOrange

Dem Troll
No one was ever running liar.

George kept his distance and actually lost him when the hoodlum doubled back on him and jumped him.


45 posted on 06/28/2013 7:32:59 PM PDT by ncalburt (Amnesty media out in full force)
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To: SeminoleCounty

By financial necessity I live in a black neighborhood. I have had very little problem with neighbors in the several years I’ve lived here. But I am concerned that if riots ensue in the event of a Zimmerman acquittal I may become a target. Do I have a reason for concern? I do not have a gun.


46 posted on 06/28/2013 7:37:39 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: RoosterRedux

So that was why the prosecution wanted to say Zimmerman was doing mixed martial arts... So they can claim he was on top doing the ‘pound and ground’


47 posted on 06/28/2013 7:44:14 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: luvbach1

You need to be out of the area with anything you hold dear/pf value until the rioting ends...maybe longer.


48 posted on 06/28/2013 7:47:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: OrangeHoof
"If some kid has you on the ground and is punching your lights out and you have a gun in your hand, why would you *not* use it? You have no assurance the puncher is not trying to kill you."

I don't think Mr Zimmerman intended to use the gun at all. When the punk saw or felt the gun, it was then a do or die moment for Mr Z. (Didn't they struggle over the gun?)

49 posted on 06/28/2013 7:49:33 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: luvbach1

You need to move out in the country even if you have to live in a trailer.

Buy yourself a gun and get at least proficient with it. If you look around you can find a good used one at a fair price. I recently bought a Revelation single barrel shotgun for $50 including tax. It was rusty but mechanically sound. It was actually made by Savage and was a little better than standard as it has an auto ejector.

After cleaning it up, it doesn’t look bad at all and shoots really well. It is a 20 gauge and the reason I got it was I already had 24 boxes of various high velocity shells.


50 posted on 06/28/2013 7:54:39 PM PDT by yarddog (Just another pretty face.)
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