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Trayvonís Friend Rachel Jeantel Prompts National Debate About Black Youth Culture
The Atlanta Black Star ^ | June 28, 2013 | Nick Chiles

Posted on 06/28/2013 11:41:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Mr Rogers

What happens during the lawyers’ summation speeches? Can the defense bring up the evidence that the judge ruled as inadmissible, i.e. the toxicology test showing Martin had marijuana in his system, his past history of fighting and suspension from school, and his mother having kicked him out of her house because of bad behavior, etc.

Also, Zimmerman told the police that Martin had been wandering about the neighborhood looking over the houses. In the rain. THAT is why Zimmerman was suspicious of him.


101 posted on 06/29/2013 7:12:59 AM PDT by Liberty Wins
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To: tanknetter

It does not negate rebuttal when a black says the truth. The black in question is always castigated as self-hating and a race traitor. I believe Bill Cosby caught all sorts of flack for his essay.

There is no logic on the left except the logic of agenda uber alles. In their minds, anyone is either with them or against them. This status is under constant review. No deviations are tolerated unless immediately followed by prolonged and humiliating apologies and retractions. Even then, the deviant will be subject to some ostracizing for a period of time before being rehabilitated. The Maoists call this process self-criticism. The most revered and unimpeachable leader will be purged in a nanosecond if they stray from the Party line or otherwise tell the truth.

See David Horowitz. I remember his purge. It took place over a weekend. On Thursday, he was casually acknowledged as one of the top 3 leaders of the New Left. By the following Monday, a mention of his name brought a blank stare and: “Who is David Horowitz?”. This is not an exaggeration.

Today, within society at large, witness the purging of top military leaders and the current designation of government or media whistleblowers as Internal Threats. Race, gender or sexual orientation do not confer immunity. Speak out and suffer the consequences. Otherwise, keep your head down, your mouth shut and follow the Leader. If the Leader zigs and zags, it is up to the follower to keep up with the program. The safest answer is to admit ignorance of the currently approved policies, deny any interest in policy or politics and suffer through condescending informational overload as your self-designated nanny proceeds to educate you. The approved response to that is to say: “Thank you.”

Conservatives have been marginalized. The next step is elimination. We tend to keep to ourselves and limit our interactions with the opposition. Still, today there are quasi-progressives everywhere and one can put a target on one’s back even by speaking truth in what is perceived as a safe environment.

They can organize with impunity. Our organizing is subversion. Case in point is the government/media/academia treatment of the Tea Party and the few remaining outspoken conservatives in politics and media.


102 posted on 06/29/2013 7:14:31 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A perfect example of what LBJ’s programs have done to the black community. A life of poverty, dependence and ignorance.
103 posted on 06/29/2013 7:27:15 AM PDT by JayAr36 (When an American dies Obama lies. And lies, and lies and lies forever.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
... her inarticulateness and seeming lack of intelligence.

Seeming?

'Seeming' lack of intelligence? LOL...

104 posted on 06/29/2013 7:41:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: nikos1121

That was proven a year ago at http://www.theconservativetreehouse.com They matched up times of whatever phone records were made public to a map of the complex. If the defense puts on a case, you’ll see a similar proof that will leave no doubt that Trashcan literally went out of his way to kill GZ.


105 posted on 06/29/2013 7:50:36 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Mr Rogers
I tend to agree with your premise. She may have perjured herself on the stand but the overriding element is that as a culture, blacks are not held to the same standard as whitey thus Rachel will get a pass whereas a white trash talking hick would be vilified for expressing the same attitude as she did on the stand. We are witnessing to some degree the contempt and racial bias against whitey that permeates the black culture, aided and abetted by the race baiters in the media. I do not think she manufactured her story but she may have been coached and prepped since the prosecution knew that she would be perceived an unsophisticated young black woman right out of ghetto casting. It apprears that it did not work. She was simply caught in one lie too many that her credibility is in doubt. what the prosecution is hoping is that whitey's prejudices will come out and makes her THE FOCUS and not her conflicting testimony. Remember the litmus test for blacks is much much lower than it is for whites thus making HER the object of the debate and not her testimony so the conversation changes to black riots, violence, cries of racism, will make the jury think twice of aquitting Zimmerman.
106 posted on 06/29/2013 7:56:15 AM PDT by bubman
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To: freeangel
“We need to bring back the literacy test before we let these people vote”

"Or print the ballots in cursive."

LOL!! Best application of the "We no longer teach cursive" meme, yet!

107 posted on 06/29/2013 7:58:39 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Gaffer
How does this ‘citizen’ support herself? Does she live with her mother? Is she in school? Does she have a job? Does she get a ‘check?’

After her name became public, it didn't take long for bloggers to start piecing together some very interesting tidbits. She started complaining in 2012 on her fairly new Twitter account that her new braces were hurting her. Combine that with the HOA paying ransom -- excuse me, a settlement -- to Trashcan's parents' lawyers at about the same time, and you might begin to see that there's a slush fund being used to sway witnesses.

108 posted on 06/29/2013 7:58:48 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: freeangel

Beautiful!


109 posted on 06/29/2013 8:01:16 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: nikos1121

You need to get up to speed on the case. Excellent end-of-day wrap-ups with a lot of video are here http://www.legalinsurrection.com


110 posted on 06/29/2013 8:02:31 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy
After her name became public, it didn't take long for bloggers to start piecing together some very interesting tidbits. She started complaining in 2012 on her fairly new Twitter account that her new braces were hurting her. Combine that with the HOA paying ransom -- excuse me, a settlement -- to Trashcan's parents' lawyers at about the same time, and you might begin to see that there's a slush fund being used to sway witnesses.

It's not rocket surgery to figure out that Dee Dee, Sybrina, Crump, and the prosecutor's office have colluded to concoct her story and create the narrative that Zimmerman murdered Trayvon.

111 posted on 06/29/2013 8:04:38 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

The name “Francine” has come up. I forget if they are friends or neighbors or what. I don’t know if Francine will be called as a witness.


112 posted on 06/29/2013 8:09:19 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: binreadin
I wish I had your faith in intelligent people ... I don't. Look at the belief systems at your average American college and tell me if you want ‘intellectuals’ making major decisions? Not me. That group voted solid for Obama. I want an honest vote of anyone interested enough to bother registering to vote. And yeah, that includes this woman. If she's interested. My guess is she never signed up...
113 posted on 06/29/2013 8:14:21 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: Liberty Wins

The prosecution isn’t done yet, then the defense will put on their case. Plenty of time for marijuana usage, fighting videos, school expulsions, etc. to come into evidence. I don’t think we have even heard from the medical examiner yet. Prosecution slip-ups or clever defense cross-examination might allow those matters to come in even though I think right now they are not allowed.


114 posted on 06/29/2013 8:15:00 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: tacticalogic

We may yet discover what many have suspected from the beginning — that the astonishingly improbable circumstances of her initial questioning, and what is in practical terms a forged document attributed to her after the fact, will reveal that her testimony, including the built-in lies of age and non-hospitalization, was created before she was auditioned and cast for the role as its presenter.


115 posted on 06/29/2013 8:24:26 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s my comment: DeeDee was caught in lie after lie after lie after lie, not the least of which she said she “wrote” a letter she later said she can’t read. The Jury would be proving they are all functional morons if they believe one single thing this illiterate pig said.

Personally, I think in that fateful phone call (which we can prove she made by phone records) she was egging him on to put a beatdown on that creepy-ass cracka. She probably laughed when she heard him punching Zimmerman’s head into the concrete.


116 posted on 06/29/2013 8:27:32 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: jiggyboy
her testimony, including the built-in lies of age and non-hospitalization, was created before she was auditioned and cast for the role as its presenter.

She's the only one that can pull this off, because of the phone records. The prosecution knows what the physical evidence on record is, and they've told her what she needs to say to stay consistent with that. I also think she's causing them problems because she's not able to remember and stick to the script.

117 posted on 06/29/2013 8:31:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Soul of the South

Interesting she said in testimony she goes to church.


That means nothing. Obama went to Rev. Wright’s church. LOL


118 posted on 06/29/2013 9:23:04 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: TalBlack

That goes without saying.


119 posted on 06/29/2013 9:34:36 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...more savvy trial-watchers will focus on the fact that she never wavered in her contention that Zimmerman was following Martin, which is the most important aspect of her testimony."

Accepting this argument, 1. Does this equal second degree murder, ie with a depraved mind? 2. That Zimmerman "followed" Trayvon was never at issue.

Zimmerman reported that he followed Trayvon after he took off running to see where he went and stopped with asked to be the civilian 911 operator. The operator had asked Zimmerman, where Trayvon was, indicating, as admitting, that could be permission or a request to look and see where he went.

It's irrelevant, if you are a creepy ass cracker or white hispanic or wannabe cop.

Justice would be for Zimmerman to become NBC's largest shareholder.

120 posted on 06/29/2013 9:40:09 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (The Stupid Party, they've earned it.)
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