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11 Million Illegal Aliens Must Learn English. How would it work?
June 30, 2013 | Self

Posted on 06/30/2013 5:59:26 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie

What are the English requirements for the new immigration bill?


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The new comprehensive immigration bill would require 11 million illegal aliens to learn English. Paul Ryan recently told Sean Hannity on live radio that this would be a requirement. How would this work? How many teachers, and examiners would it take to to bring these new probationary American citizens up to speed on the English languaga? Would we really deport these new citizens for not speaking the language well? Would those who were illiterate be required to write in English?
1 posted on 06/30/2013 5:59:26 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I have not seen this adequately discussed. Are we talking about 50-100,000 new teachers and examiners? How can we support this in a down economy?


2 posted on 06/30/2013 6:00:43 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“..11 million illegal aliens to learn English.”

A year from now that will be completely ignored, dropped, and forgotten. I call the big BS to that one.


3 posted on 06/30/2013 6:02:04 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The bill is laughable.
Might as well grant them all advanced degrees...


4 posted on 06/30/2013 6:02:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Proud2BeRight

I have not even seen the framework for implementing this. It seems to be a pipe dream. What is Paul Ryan smoking?


5 posted on 06/30/2013 6:03:31 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Proud2BeRight

sounds like a great job for Ryan & Rubio


6 posted on 06/30/2013 6:03:32 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The first person or entity who tries to enforce that portion of the law will be labeled a racist.


7 posted on 06/30/2013 6:04:06 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Have you seen any framework for implementing this discussed?


8 posted on 06/30/2013 6:04:14 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The two key components which keep us together are being removed as is our sovereignity - one can see why they don’t want to spend the money at the border. They’ll eventually balkanize us just like they did in Yugoslavia - easier to control.


9 posted on 06/30/2013 6:04:55 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Send the pretty 18-20 year old ones to me. I'll teach 'em english and french.

/johnny

10 posted on 06/30/2013 6:05:15 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Simple - self certification on a form printed in Spanish and accepted by Janet Napolitano.
11 posted on 06/30/2013 6:05:41 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Proud2BeRight

““..11 million illegal aliens to learn English.”

A year from now that will be completely ignored, dropped, and forgotten. I call the big BS to that one.”

I was talking to a Hispanic plumber. He was born and raised in California. He quit the school system at age 16. He said, “I spoke almost no English. It’s like they were trying to keep me down. Finally, I got out and got a job. A Cuban I worked construction with taught me English.” At 30-something, he is now working on his GED.


12 posted on 06/30/2013 6:05:50 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: jersey117
The first person or entity who tries to enforce that portion of the law will be labeled a racist.

How dare we impose our language on these poor, noble Mexican immigrants, when there are so many white Americans that speak/write English so poorly. Racist, of course!!!

13 posted on 06/30/2013 6:05:57 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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Oh, and they’re supposed to take “civics” classes, too. According to Paul Ryan they’ll get deported if they don’t comply with the requirements to learn English and take civics classes and pay taxes.

We don’t deport them now when they rob, rape, abuse, and murder. What makes anyone think we’re going to throw them out because they don’t show up for civics or ESOL class?

What is Obama using to blackmail Ryan and Rubio? That’s all I want to know. Because there has to be something.


14 posted on 06/30/2013 6:06:48 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare--now a Marine Mom)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Lazamataz

I’m sure you’ll have plenty of competition from Laz.


15 posted on 06/30/2013 6:07:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Send the pretty 18-20 year old ones to me. I'll teach 'em english and french.

Yeah, right!

16 posted on 06/30/2013 6:07:30 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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I have not seen this adequately discussed. Are we talking about 50-100,000 new teachers and examiners? How can we support this in a down economy?

It's Obama Money. Just another few trillion in debt for your grandchildren. That's totally worth yet another service for those who broke our laws! Ummmm...

17 posted on 06/30/2013 6:09:00 AM PDT by Teacher317 (The public is being manipulated to fleece the taxpayer. That is the real industry in Washington.)
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To: ottbmare
Oh, and they’re supposed to take “civics” classes, too. According to Paul Ryan they’ll get deported if they don’t comply with the requirements to learn English and take civics classes and pay taxes.

Do you think Paul Ryan thinks that everyone living outside the beltway is stupid they cannot see through this b.s.?

18 posted on 06/30/2013 6:09:03 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Build hundreds of new schools. Have the illegals build them. Tell them they’ll get paid after they learn English.


19 posted on 06/30/2013 6:10:03 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: ottbmare
We don’t deport them now when they rob, rape, abuse, and murder. What makes anyone think we’re going to throw them out because they don’t show up for civics or ESOL class?

Bump

20 posted on 06/30/2013 6:10:17 AM PDT by Teacher317 (The public is being manipulated to fleece the taxpayer. That is the real industry in Washington.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You will have to read the bill to find out. Actually, they only have to enroll in a course. There will be no test and no penalty for not learning English. No one will be deported if they don’t learn English.


21 posted on 06/30/2013 6:11:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: The_Media_never_lie

American-born teachers in the country can’t speak or read proper English. And we’re supposed to believe something magical will occur that will educate 11 million unmotivated losers?


22 posted on 06/30/2013 6:11:54 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I feel much better since I gave up hope.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Bill, schmill. This isn’t about law. They don’t enforce current law set from the last amnesty to buy votes.


23 posted on 06/30/2013 6:11:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
...by watching Leave it to Beaver:

24 posted on 06/30/2013 6:13:45 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Obama said something about Africans looking after African affairs...


25 posted on 06/30/2013 6:14:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: kabar
You will have to read the bill to find out. Actually, they only have to enroll in a course. There will be no test and no penalty for not learning English. No one will be deported if they don’t learn English.

Then this is, in reality, just a payoff to some teachers or a teacher's union, right?

Paul Ryan, you should be ashamed of your self and should apologize to your political base. I can never, ever trust you again, even to take out the garbage!

26 posted on 06/30/2013 6:16:38 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: MayflowerMadam
American-born teachers in the country can’t speak or read proper English.

It would be racist not to deport them, too.

27 posted on 06/30/2013 6:19:02 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

No, it is not a payoff to teachers, it just lying to the American public so they can get their support. You had to learn English under the 1986 amnesty, but it was never enforced. The 2007 McCain-Kennedy amnesty contained the requirement to learn English. This is just standard language to fool and deceive. It is old wine in new bottles.


28 posted on 06/30/2013 6:19:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I am a minor expert on speaking broken English that Italian immigrants speak. I learned my craft listening to my grandparents.

I speak very little.....no extremely little Italian. My Parents spoke a little more Italian and understood even more, but were not very fluent in it at all.

When my Grandparents came over in the late 19th to early 20th century, when they had kids, they only spoke English in the house in order to BECOME AMERICANS.

most of the Hispanic people seem to want to take back to south west and make America bilingual or just Spanish speaking and I find this UNAMERICAN.


29 posted on 06/30/2013 6:23:15 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Rosetta Stone?


30 posted on 06/30/2013 6:25:42 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Doesn’t matter. Even if they speak English you still can’t understand what they’re saying.


31 posted on 06/30/2013 6:30:48 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: JRandomFreeper
Send the pretty 18-20 year old ones to me. I'll teach 'em english and french.


32 posted on 06/30/2013 6:34:50 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("...the press had better learn from their experiences of being duped "...-Sarah Palin 5/17/13)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Why not start by taking all Spanish-speaking TV stations off basic cable? I hate having to subsidize them. Then end all of the stuff in stores, phones, anything written in both languages. No more ESL in school....english only.

PS: there is a problem with this. Puerto Ricans are already US citizens and they don't have to know English.

33 posted on 06/30/2013 6:40:12 AM PDT by grania
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To: The_Media_never_lie
What is Paul Ryan smoking?

He's been breathing in that DC fog. (what a disappointment he is)

34 posted on 06/30/2013 6:41:20 AM PDT by grania
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To: WVKayaker
Pretty does NOT include a 5 o'clock shadow. LOL!

/johnny

35 posted on 06/30/2013 6:42:24 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: grania
He's been breathing in that DC fog. (what a disappointment he is)

At least we know who he is, now!

36 posted on 06/30/2013 6:45:15 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: CodeToad

How is this different from the Alabama Literacy Test for voting?


37 posted on 06/30/2013 6:45:49 AM PDT by Boojum
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To: JRandomFreeper; All
We already have the experts on hand to do this task:

Basic English for Citizenship

38 posted on 06/30/2013 6:48:23 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
The new comprehensive immigration bill would require 11 million illegal aliens to learn English.

This is simply political theater for the masses. This will never happen, or if any attempts are made to require this it will be stuck down as unconstitutional or so watered down, all that will be required is to say " I vote Democrat"

39 posted on 06/30/2013 6:56:33 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

1st English Lesson:

“May I have a one-way ticket to Tijuana?”


40 posted on 06/30/2013 6:57:19 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I love it. No resources to round up “11” million criminals for deportation. But, somehow, every one of them is going to learn to speak right and proper English as a matter of course. There’ll be resources aplenty for that and they’ll all sign up for it right away, ya betcha.


41 posted on 06/30/2013 7:01:54 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Bill would require 11 million illegal aliens to learn English.
That’s going to work out as good as a boarder fence,the amnesty deal is in the bag all the D.C. chimps received their bag of bananas.


42 posted on 06/30/2013 7:02:41 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Maybe the government will hire some of O’s ‘activists’ to teach English, and it’s just another gravy train for the unions and their ilk.

I predict this will NOT come to pass - the 11 M learning English. My great-grandmother came from Germany, never really learned English. Her kids did, but then they were taught in school that they were Americans and we spoke English here. Might not be the same these days.

How can you MAKE people learn something? What will the test be?? IF there is a test, it will be nouns only AND anyone with an excuse will not have to take it.


43 posted on 06/30/2013 7:06:44 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: magna carta
sounds like a great job for Ryan & Rubio

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44 posted on 06/30/2013 7:13:37 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: ottbmare

That’s what so sad. Americans suffer at the hands of these criminals and it’s just a big dog and pony show to our elected public “servants.”


45 posted on 06/30/2013 7:21:42 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
11 Million Illegal Aliens Must Learn English. How would it work?

Does anybody really think these criminals are going to learn English? rachel jeantel went through the school system and she can't even read cursive. Does anybody really think anything is going to change except of course now they will be citizens, they will still collect every damn government handout in this country. If they didn't deport these losers before now, they sure as hell won't deport them after this bill is shoved down our throats.

46 posted on 06/30/2013 7:22:45 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: BradyLS

Get rid of ALL “For English, press 1”, “For Spanish, press 2” crap. Just have English with no other choice buttons. That includes push buttons in banks. Learn English or be totally dysfunctional in American society (as if they aren’t already).


47 posted on 06/30/2013 7:39:08 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: The_Media_never_lie
"11 Million Illegal Aliens Must Learn English."

Or what, exactly?

48 posted on 06/30/2013 7:39:32 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The same way they prove you’re a citizen - they ask you “are you a citizen ? If you answer “yes”, then you are.

So they’ll prove that you speak English by asking you “habla ingles?” If you say “Si” that proves you speak English.


49 posted on 06/30/2013 7:43:54 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It wouldn’t work. Nobody expects it to work. Its a lie that the legislators are telling you so it will seem OK to let the entire underclass of another nation burrow into our welfare system, destroy our national identity and create a permanent one party political system.


50 posted on 06/30/2013 7:45:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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