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Another Race-based Show Trial Turns Into Farce
AmericanThinker.com ^ | 6/30/2013 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 06/30/2013 7:11:00 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: bgill

It all balances out — she signed it with a fake name.


61 posted on 06/30/2013 8:48:28 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: bgill
"An honest judge would throw her behind bars for perjury. "

An honest judge would dismiss this case with prejudice and refer the prosecutor to the bar association for misconduct with a recommendation for disbarment.

62 posted on 06/30/2013 8:50:21 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Bob
-- I'd think that if such a thing were possible, it would have been discussed in at least some of the trial coverage. --

If you get your "knowledge" from the press, you are misinformed, period.

The jury WILL be given a manslaughter instruction. It's mandatory under Fla. law. There are some what are called "permissive lesser included offenses," that MUST be presented to the jury, but ONLY IF the charging document includes the elements of the lesser included charge, and the trial has adduced evidence on those elements. Without going through the detailed analysis, I believe the only charges that the jury will have are Murder 2, and manslaughter.

No matter what the charge, if the state doesn't disprove justified use of deadly force, beyond a reasonable doubt, that finding trumps everything else. If Zimmerman has a smidgen of justification, no charge sticks.

63 posted on 06/30/2013 8:50:59 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: spacejunkie2001

TM didn’t know GZ had a gun. It was in a side holster and GZ had a jacket on that covered it.


64 posted on 06/30/2013 8:51:03 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: rockrr

I read something substantially similar, that because the prosecutor filed only 2nd degree murder that there can be no lesser included offense. I don’t see any way that the State of Florida can substantiate one of the key elements a proof - that GZ acted with a depraved state of mind without regard to human life.

That said, I would not be surprised that after he gets off, that Holder’s Justice Dept will try him for depriving Trayvon of his civil liberties. This would be similar to a case where a police officer named Johannes Mehserle was tried and acquitted for 2nd degree murder for shooting an unarmed black civilian named Oscar Grant but but was found guilty of the lesser charge of involuntary manslaughter. Riots followed this verdict where some 80 people were arrested. The U.S. Justice Department then opened a civil rights case against Mehserle.

So, I think the same thing can happen in this case. The federal government can prosecute GZ independently for the same act under the separate sovereigns exception to double jeopardy.


65 posted on 06/30/2013 8:51:35 AM PDT by Dogfaced Soldier
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To: Old Sarge

Right now, my son is in London but is flying to Florida tomorrow and will be there for a few months. In Florida, he stays with a retired cop friend (who owns a film company) in a house in a gated community that is about 30 min. from Miami.

The cop friend is always armed and super vigilant to always know his surroundings - he absolutely would shoot first and ask questions later. I intend to tell son to be wherever the cop friend is when the verdict comes down and for whatever time there is violence there, if there is.

Living in London, son can’t have a gun. He couldn’t carry one into the states anyway so he is and will be unarmed.


66 posted on 06/30/2013 8:52:02 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Enterprise

“An honest judge would throw her behind bars for perjury. “

An honest judge.....HA! Ha! Ha!


67 posted on 06/30/2013 8:53:35 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: RetSignman

I hope the jury instructions include the fact useing concrete as a weapon make it a weapon. If this was reversed, the prosecutor would be arguing for aggrivated battery because of the concrete weapon.


68 posted on 06/30/2013 8:54:58 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GOPJ
-- Does anyone know who wrote the letter? --

Yes. I think the full name came out in court. It's Francine. The defense knows who it is. It is NOT a friend of Rachael. It is a friend of Sybrina.

69 posted on 06/30/2013 8:55:46 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Marcella
-- I heard the witness of the black girl and the writer was a friend of hers, not someone on the Trayvon legal team. --

The scribe (who may have been the author too, for all we know) is named Francine. Francine was unknown to Rachael before March 20, 2012, a total stranger. Francine is a friend of Sybrina, but is not, as far as I know, a lawyer affiliated with Parks, Crump, Natalie Jackson or Modarres law. Might be in tight with the lawyers, at the least, for this project, but is, as far as I know, otherwise an outsider.

70 posted on 06/30/2013 8:59:11 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Dogfaced Soldier

fl is 10-20-Life state.

ANY conviction for anything and it is life.

the prosecution only has to “show”.


71 posted on 06/30/2013 8:59:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Judges tell the jury that their job is to weigh the evidence. The judge does not tell them how, and does not tell them which witnesses are liars.
72 posted on 06/30/2013 9:00:54 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Enterprise
-- An honest judge would dismiss this case with prejudice and refer the prosecutor to the bar association for misconduct with a recommendation for disbarment. --

Not to defend Nelson, but dismissal is considered only on submission of a written request from the defense. Referral to the bar depends on evidence being submitted, against the prosecutor. Nelson has a Motion for sanctions against de la Rionda for withholding phone evidence. The judge has set that aside until after the trial.

I think this judge is in the tank just as much as Corey is.

73 posted on 06/30/2013 9:03:09 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Gadsden1st

The only respect judges are given is really from other judges and wanabe judges. The image of the judges in fl and the florida bar in general (asleep at the switch in in case) has been plumeting.

It is really sad.


74 posted on 06/30/2013 9:03:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Cboldt

“The judge does not tell them how, and does not tell them which witnesses are liars.”

Not this judge! She’s not in that group. She actually interrupted the defense to ask the state if they wanted to object. She’s unreal!


75 posted on 06/30/2013 9:03:35 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Cboldt

The bar is independent of the judge. Bar complaints have no statute of limitation.

The FL Bar has and does do emergency suspensions.


76 posted on 06/30/2013 9:04:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I would have shot that kid the minute I was thrown to the ground. Zimmerman waited way longer than I would have.

Zimmerman suffered two black eyes, and a broken nose. Try thinking clearly after having taken three hard shots to the head...

the infowarrior

77 posted on 06/30/2013 9:04:43 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: Cboldt
"I think this judge is in the tank just as much as Corey is."

I couldn't agree more!

78 posted on 06/30/2013 9:04:51 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I think Nelson is in the tank, but she did not instruct the jury. What she did was obstruct the defense, again.


79 posted on 06/30/2013 9:05:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Marcella

Oh, Darlin’, he’s headed to a BAAAAAAD place.

I had to correct myself on my own terminology. This trial isn’t going to be Rodney King 2.0.

It’s going to be Reginald Denny 2.0.


80 posted on 06/30/2013 9:05:20 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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