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To: shortstop

Marriage means exactly what it always meant. The State didn’t define it before now, and they don’t define it now.

Let me give you an analogy. The right to bear arms was correctly defined by our Founders to be a natural right of man. The 2A doesn’t give us that right; it only acknowledges it. If the left successfully nullifies the 2A as a function of law, it doesn’t change the fact that we have a natural right to bear arms; a right that transcends the law.

The same is true of Marriage. Marriage is not ordained by the State. To the extent that the State has codified legal provisions to provide the civil benefits implied by Marriage and calls that Marriage, all is well and good. To the extent the State perverts those provisions, it only affects the civil nature that the State automatically assigns to a Civil (and therefore under the State’s control) Ceremony.

For most of us, Marriage is a Religious Ceremony first, and a Civil Ceremony second. The State’s “ordination” of Marriage only applies to the legal status associated with Marriage that it controls.

I mislike the title of this thread. The definition of Marriage hasn’t changed. The State doesn’t have that power. We do well to remember that.


8 posted on 07/01/2013 5:42:12 AM PDT by ziravan (Choose sides. You too, NSA snoop.)
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To: ziravan
The definition of Marriage hasn’t changed. The State doesn’t have that power. We do well to remember that.

That bears repeating. Marriage will continue to be what it always was, and will always be a blessing.

The number of people who want to be blessed, however, is decreasing. As always, the nation as a whole will suffer - the good along with the evil. ("There is nothing new under the sun.")
19 posted on 07/01/2013 6:04:19 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ziravan

Excellent post, you took the words right out of my mouth. The Godless didn’t steal marriage — how can they steal the things of God? No, they erected a golden calf and are worshiping it. True marriage is still what it always has been — a blessing from God, not from the State. Anything else is an imitation.


33 posted on 07/01/2013 6:37:00 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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