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...Teenager JAILED for posting 'joke' threat on Facebook after row with an online gaming partner
Daily Mail Online ^ | June 26, 2013 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 07/01/2013 8:53:00 AM PDT by beaversmom

A Texas teenager has been in jail since February after making an offhand comment on Facebook about a video game he had been playing.

Justin Carter was 18 when he and a friend got into an argument with someone over a multiple player online video game, leading the teenager to post a comment he now regrets.

He now faces up to eight years in prison after saying 'I'm going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still beating hearts' only two months after the Sandy Hook school massacre

'These people are serious. They really want my son to go away to jail for a sarcastic comment that he made,' Justin's father, Jack Carter, said.

Although the teenager, who turned 19 while in prison, added 'lol' (laughing out loud) and 'jk' (just kidding) to his post, a woman from Canada who saw it reported Justin to police after finding out that he lived near an elementary school.

Mr Carter is now campaigning to have his son released, and wants to teach teenagers about the dangers of posting comments on social media.

'Justin was the kind of kid who didn't read the newspaper. He didn't watch television. He wasn't aware of current events. These kids, they don't realize what they're doing. They don't understand the implications. They don't understand public space,' he told KHOU.

His son first got into trouble in February after he and a friend had been playing League of Legends.

Mr Carter said: 'Someone had said something to the effect of "Oh you're insane, you're crazy, you're messed up in the head," to which he replied "Oh yeah, I'm real messed up in the head, I'm going to go shoot up a...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: blamecanada; facebook; jk; justincarter; lol; outofcontrolgvmt; socialmedia

1 posted on 07/01/2013 8:53:00 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

but we aren’t monitoring mosques.


2 posted on 07/01/2013 8:53:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: beaversmom

The level of prosecutorial overreach in recent years has become truly frightening.


3 posted on 07/01/2013 8:55:43 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: beaversmom
...a woman from Canada who saw it reported Justin to police


4 posted on 07/01/2013 9:00:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracker)
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To: driftdiver

If I recall correctly it was a trolling Canuck that started this hassle for the kid? That’s why Facebook and posting on it are dangerous, any moron in any country can cause crap to rain down upon you for no good reason.


5 posted on 07/01/2013 9:01:46 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: beaversmom
'These people are serious. They really want my son to go away to jail for a sarcastic comment that he made,' Justin's father, Jack Carter, said.

Yes they are serious. They are seriously foolish.

Hasty law making makes for bad law. These laws are written in the wake of tragedy when law makers feel the pressure to do something to prevent future tragedies even though such laws have no chance of preventing future tragedy.

Such laws scoop up and punish the innocent much more often than they prevent real monsters from committing horrendous acts because real monsters typically live in the shadows were busy bodies like the Canadian woman never go.

6 posted on 07/01/2013 9:03:14 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: beaversmom

now with PRISM we can find and jail anyone that posts sarcastic, joking, bragging, exaggerating, angry, or misunderstood comments anywhere!


7 posted on 07/01/2013 9:05:46 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: beaversmom

He is still entitled to bail and a jury trial.


8 posted on 07/01/2013 9:06:00 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: beaversmom
I'm going to go shoot up a school full of kids...

Well, a statement like that really does need to be investigated. So send a couple of cops over to the kid's house, and talk to him. But jail him? No way.

9 posted on 07/01/2013 9:07:46 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Pontiac
These laws are written in the wake of tragedy when law makers feel the pressure to do something to prevent future tragedies even though such laws have no chance of preventing future tragedy.

Point of order. These laws are written well in advance by people whose intent is the utter destruction of freedom. They sit quietly in filing cabinets or on hard drives, periodically getting reviewed and updated, waiting, just waiting for an excuse, a panicked legislature, a popular stampede to be inflicted on the country.

Do you really think a 1000+ page bill is written overnight?

The enemies of freedom spend decades sharping their long knives.

10 posted on 07/01/2013 9:10:39 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: beaversmom

So THAT kind of “making terroristic threats” in social media gets you several years in jail.

Making THIS kind of terroristic threat in social media, however, is apparently A-OK:

“‘Ima kill me a cracka’: Death threats against George Zimmerman, random white people explode during trial”

http://twitchy.com/2013/06/27/ima-kill-me-a-cracka-death-threats-against-george-zimmerman-random-white-people-explode-during-trial/


11 posted on 07/01/2013 9:12:20 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Excellent point!!! They’ve threatened to kill George Zimmerman, a man that hasn’t been convicted of anything, and threatened to kill random white people! So infuriating at the level of stupidity in this country. It IS just downright stupidity by some people, but DELIBERATE by those with a greater purpose in mind. Infuriating and scary.


12 posted on 07/01/2013 9:16:13 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
and wants to teach teenagers about the dangers of posting comments on social media.

Now that we have thought police like the Communist Empires, it is unwise to speak to others your thoughts. They can be taken out of context, and will be used against you when ever possible. No logic applies to dictators, they like to hurt people and exercise power, the more unjust it is the better for their egos. That is why God made a hell.

13 posted on 07/01/2013 9:17:44 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: null and void
The enemies of freedom spend decades sharping their long knives.

Another excellent point. Patiently waiting in the grass, waiting for the best moment.

14 posted on 07/01/2013 9:18:38 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: driftdiver

Or thugs threatening to smoke Zimmerman/whitey.


15 posted on 07/01/2013 9:19:34 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: beaversmom

But if he had actually gone through with it, imagine the uproar because the threat was ignored.


16 posted on 07/01/2013 9:20:45 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: beaversmom

Meanwhile, if the psychotic neighbor threatens to kill your children and burn your home, the police response remains, “There’s nothing we can do.”


17 posted on 07/01/2013 9:23:13 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: driftdiver

Particularly the Tennessee mullah threatening jihad on a thread here the other day.
Maybe they are investigating him. How would we know?
As well they should. But jailing this kid? Gimme a break.

See, we’re not completely unreasonable, NSA guest.
Now, go away!


18 posted on 07/01/2013 9:37:24 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Leaning Right

Leaning Right: “Well, a statement like that really does need to be investigated. So send a couple of cops over to the kid’s house, and talk to him. But jail him? No way.”

You’re absolutely right. What’s wrong with people (and police) these days? Don’t police bother doing a bit of information gathering before they jail people? Apparently not.


19 posted on 07/01/2013 9:40:23 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: beaversmom
I'm going to go shoot up a school full of kids...

Nothing funny or sarcastic about that.

Ask any teacher.

Ask any parent.

20 posted on 07/01/2013 9:40:30 AM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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To: AppyPappy

AppyPappy: “But if he had actually gone through with it, imagine the uproar because the threat was ignored.”

Do you have any evidence, including the comment, that the teenager intended to attack a school? Unless there’s some credible threat there—and I don’t see it—this is a travesty.


21 posted on 07/01/2013 9:43:58 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: lightman

It was a dumb thing to say, but are you honestly saying you want the guy jailed for saying it???


22 posted on 07/01/2013 9:46:25 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: lightman

I’m a parent. I wouldn’t want my son making the comment, but I can see it wasn’t serious. You left out that he said “and eat their still beating hearts” and had lol and jk next to it. I would have read it as an attempt at a sarcastic joke. People will use absurdity in the extreme to make a point. The eating their still beating hearts would have been my first clue of what he was doing. The lol and jk would have been my second.

From the article:

Mr Carter said: ‘Someone had said something to the effect of “Oh you’re insane, you’re crazy, you’re messed up in the head,” to which he replied “Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts.’

He added that his son had made it clear that the comment was made in jest.


23 posted on 07/01/2013 9:48:24 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

“only two months after the Sandy Hook school massacre “

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So it would be acceptable in 6 months or a year?

The young man was insensitive but jail? No.

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24 posted on 07/01/2013 9:52:17 AM PDT by Mears
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To: lightman

Certainly should have been investigated. No question there.

However, once determined that the kid is a no threat, just a flaming imbecile, that should have ended it.

How about a speedy trial? Locked up since February?

Call me paranoid, but I see one side aspect of this event as the ongoing effort to intimidate everyone (not on the left) into silence. IOW, we can lock up an idiot teen indefinitely without trial, think about what we can do to political dissidents that we really dislike.

It starts when you’re always afraid, step out of line, the men come and take you away. Poor dumb Neil Young, had no clue he was talking about his socialist idols. Still doesn’t.


25 posted on 07/01/2013 9:52:31 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: beaversmom

[[...Teenager JAILED for posting ‘joke’ threat on Facebook after row with an online gaming partner]]

Here we go- epople beign arrested for postign on the internet- swell- wonder how hte prosecution is goign to prove that he was serious?


26 posted on 07/01/2013 9:55:35 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CitizenUSA; Leaning Right
You’re absolutely right. What’s wrong with people (and police) these days? Don’t police bother doing a bit of information gathering before they jail people? Apparently not.

I've got a perfect example that just happened to my 16 year old son yesterday. He was at the park near our house on his bike. He still had his GoPro attached even though the battery had died. He was riding around the park. My younger son and daughter went over to meet him. Someone called the police that he was filming children. I think even if he had been filming children it wouldn't have been illegal, but he wasn't. The camera was on his bike and dead. A policeman came over to talk to him. My daughter, in tears, and other son came running home that he was being questioned by police. After talking with police, the police had common sense and could see he was doing nothing wrong, and everything was cleared up. But what if the police didn't have common sense?

27 posted on 07/01/2013 9:55:42 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

exactly- muslims can call for death to jews, death to americans, but a kid makes a joke and all of a sudden he’s a hardeened criminal?- I hope to hel the kid’s lawyer asks the judge why a kid’s joke is ‘more srious’ than the actual direct intentional threats by clrics in mosques


28 posted on 07/01/2013 9:57:20 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Leaning Right

[[Well, a statement like that really does need to be investigated.]]

Ket word is ‘investigated’ - it shoudl have been immediately clear the kid was no serious htreat- had the kid had all manner of weapons and ammo stash, and literature all over htep lace expousing terrorism or hwtatever, then yeah- invesdtigate further-


29 posted on 07/01/2013 9:59:23 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Pontiac

Well said.


30 posted on 07/01/2013 10:12:34 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Pontiac
These laws are written in the wake of tragedy when law makers feel the pressure to do something to prevent future tragedies look busy

That's how I'd have phrased it.

31 posted on 07/01/2013 10:24:59 AM PDT by BfloGuy (The imposition of a duty on the importation of a commodity burdens the consumers. --Ludwig Von Mises)
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To: null and void; USMCPOP; BfloGuy
These laws are written in the wake of tragedy when law makers feel the pressure to do something to prevent future tragedies even though such laws have no chance of preventing future tragedy.

After further pondering on this subject what I said here, although true, insufficiently describes the truth.

After a tragedy like Sandy Hook law makers are pressured by gun control advocates to implement laws curtailing the right to bear arms that supposedly will prevent similar tragedies in the future. Of course these laws only make future tragedy more likely by disarming those who would other wise be able to defend the innocent with their personal fire arms. A similar truth exist in this instance. A teen’s humor is taken out of context and he faces imprisonment while true terroristic speech takes place in Mosques throughout the country and is ignored because of political correctness disguised as protecting religious freedom.

So in this case when the words of this young man are taken in context of the conversation in which they were written is obviously not a threat but taken out of context they are prosecutable as a felony.

32 posted on 07/01/2013 10:59:08 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: TexasCajun
...a woman from Canada who saw it reported Justin to police

And why is Justin Bieber still free? TANJ

33 posted on 07/01/2013 2:13:55 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("New Yorks Finest" are now "The Untouchables")
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To: lightman

What is best in life? To crush your enemies — See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women. LOL


34 posted on 07/01/2013 2:16:56 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("New Yorks Finest" are now "The Untouchables")
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To: CitizenUSA

LOL and jk do not negate a posting that is otherwise a terroristic thread.

It deserved investigation. Part of the investigation should be a psychiatric evaluation.

Jail time awaiting trial does not serve that investigative purpose.


35 posted on 07/01/2013 5:27:11 PM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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To: AppyPappy

My Xbox game partner and I were playing one night. One of our opponents went nuts screaming at his little girl, her background voice sounded like she was six or seven. He yelled for her to get her f’ing ass in bed, it escalated from there. I have never heard anything like it. Then he started slugging and slapping her using the most vile language I have ever heard, she was screaming bloody murder and it went on until he disconnected, which was about ten minutes. My partner and I were frantic, just sick on our stomachs. We immediately contacted Xbox techs and were told there was really nothing they could do. Just file a complaint on the gamer tag about profanity. We tried to set him up having some other gamers find out where he lived, and tried some other things. We felt helpless and I think about that little girl all the time.


36 posted on 07/01/2013 5:44:35 PM PDT by Toespi
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