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Building a Human Wall on the Border: Are 20,000 new agents really the best way to go?
National Review ^ | 07/02/2013 | Andrew Stiles

Posted on 07/02/2013 4:59:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Just like the billions coming in from Saudi oil to off shore banks, billions are foreseen coming north through cartel lawyers, mules, and runner/overseers. They are well ingrained into the DOJ. Think Ramos/Campeon and go from there.


21 posted on 07/02/2013 5:28:06 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind
No wall, no border guards. Border security is all a smoke screen.

Deny all benefits and privileges to illegal aliens. Revoke 14th Amendment citizenship. One year hard labor for illegal aliens caught inside the US. Three years hard labor to anyone that employes illegal aliens.

If needed bring in temporary migrant workers under armed guard.

22 posted on 07/02/2013 5:31:59 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: SeekAndFind

Good start followed by a most, mine fields and barbed wire.


23 posted on 07/02/2013 5:34:18 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: rstrahan

I wondered how man troops were still in Europe and cut this from a recent article.

“Currently, about 80,000 U.S. troops are based in Europe. The changes outlined by the Pentagon will reduce that number by more than 11,000.”

Apparently, we use Europe as a training base. I suspect they’re not there to fight. I’m not certain why they can’t be trained here unless it’s interoperability training with our allies. Any knowledgeable freeper comments?


24 posted on 07/02/2013 5:42:56 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SeekAndFind

What border we don’t have a stinking border.


25 posted on 07/02/2013 5:45:58 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Gen.Blather

American troops were in Europe during the Cold War as a tripwire to make sure America had ‘skin in the game’ should Soviets attacks.

Since then, they are forward bases for intervention in the Middle East.


26 posted on 07/02/2013 5:46:52 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SeekAndFind

Forget the border.

1. Put a $500 bounty on illegal aliens that any citizen can collect by turning them in to the local authorities (who would be authorized to arrest them and hand them over for deportation).

2. Put a $1000 bounty on employers that hire illegals.

3. Require proof of legal residence and tax adherence to transport or wire money out of the country.

4. Deny all public aid, with the exception of truly emergency medical care, to illegals.


27 posted on 07/02/2013 5:48:22 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
With technology, the feds and business enterprises know everywhere I go, everything I purchase, every online site I go to and every phone call I'm involved in. They scan my mail and packages. I can't walk my dog or drive my car without being caught on camera. I better not sunbathe topless...cameras in the sky are watching. Drones are up there for our safety. If I want to open a bank account, buy a house or get a job, I have to prove my identity and citizenship.

And the feds can't get the invaders out of the US and keep them out with the resources they already have? Nobody's that gullible.

28 posted on 07/02/2013 5:52:53 AM PDT by grania
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ll never know. They don’t have to be deployed until 2021, and that can be reversed anytime between now and then.


29 posted on 07/02/2013 5:55:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: SeekAndFind
“If you’re asking me about the merits of this proposal, I think it’s overkill,” said Senator Dick Durbin (D., Ill.).

Which is why the purported "increase" in border security will never, ever happen under the terms of this bill. There IS no intent to secure it. The only aspect of the entire bill that will be "secured" is a fast-track to citizenship for some 25-35 million illegals. But, if it does pass, in a year or so, expect the Repubs to gin up their obligatory tut-tuts as they express the required amount of contrived public outrage at the failure to secure the border. There'll be a lot of talking about securing the border, though... lots and lots of talking.

30 posted on 07/02/2013 6:25:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: shalom aleichem

Most BP Agents are not dems and they certainly despise Nappy-Pants, The Big Zero and all those illegal-luving politicos out there.

BP Agents are not your usual federal employee. Far from it. And did I say most are not dems?

They work alone or in pairs, hours from back-up, using their brain and guts to take-down illegal aliens and drug smugglers. . .they are men of courage, not federal union/dem cowards/thugs.

They simply have no respect for weak people like this administration.


31 posted on 07/02/2013 6:26:08 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: SeekAndFind

IF they ever materialize (a big if), I suspect most of them will be sitting around an office building in El Paso shuffling paperwork. Their main function will be as a conduit to launder more union dues into the Democrat Party.


32 posted on 07/02/2013 6:46:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: shalom aleichem

...plus another 20k Dem voters for life.


33 posted on 07/02/2013 6:47:15 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

Snipers mines and attack dogs are the “way to go”.


34 posted on 07/02/2013 6:48:45 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Who cares what the people on the ground wants, this is a strict top-down federal system now.
Washington makes all decisions, makes the rules. When it doesn't work they make more rules.
It's been a very long time since they listened to people who actually know their stuff. It's 100% politics now.

35 posted on 07/02/2013 6:52:49 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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20,000 jobs. HA you give away 20,000 salaries made of tax money and get back 12% now that’s economics!
Opps you forgot about the 20,000 weapons, uniforms, and automobiles. Do we really need 20,000 people to watch 20,000 people cross the border weekly?


36 posted on 07/02/2013 7:02:30 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: SeekAndFind

they don’t need 20,000 new agent and if they hired them in a rush they would probably slip up on background checks, lower standards and end up with rampant corruption like other PD’s years ago.

What they need is someone up top to say enough is enough and tall those here they have 6 months to leave or be formally deported and relinquish right to enter legally. Start enforcing current laws.
See Operation Wetback. Its all about attitude at the top.


37 posted on 07/02/2013 7:05:02 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: SeekAndFind
Border agents can be turned off by President Zero (or his successor Hildebeast), whereas a WALL cannot be turned off. IT IS THAT SIMPLE FOLKS and that is why the RAT Party will go kicking and screaming into the night refusing to build a FENCE. They have no intention of putting a wall of humans on the southern border - these 20,000 new agents will be combing through IRS and NSA files for “dirt” on Christians and Conservatives.
38 posted on 07/02/2013 7:05:07 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

A bounty would work better.


39 posted on 07/02/2013 7:18:53 AM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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To: SeekAndFind

They are never going to do anything about the border but
open it up even more. I believe that somewhere in the
NAFTA, CAFTA and GAT treaties a secret pact was signed for
the creation of the North American Union and open borders.
There hasn’t been much difference in border policy
from Bush I to Obama and I don’t think it ever will be.
The day when illegal aliens literally have more rights than
law abiding American citizens is here and you can thank
Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Clinton, Obama and 80% of congress for
it. We have been sold out.


40 posted on 07/02/2013 7:25:33 AM PDT by Slambat
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