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Oh, Go Ahead, Destroy Marco Rubio (GOP Elites Can't Figure Out He's Destroying Himself)
The Daily Caller ^ | 6:46 AM 07/02/2013 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 07/02/2013 11:04:22 AM PDT by drewh

As Allahpundit forcefully points out, Rubio’s whole mission for the Gang of 8 was to anaesthetize the Right with charm and concern.

That wasn’t enough, so he also lied. He lied about the border security provisions in his bill, then declared he was going to fight to add the provisions he’d said were there all along, then when he lost those fights he supported the bill anyway.

He delivered a final heartfelt plea for understanding–and lied there too (denying, for example that “a future Congress can just defund all the security measures,” which it can).

Having started a giant intraparty immigration fight, the Republican money men and well-fed consultants–the Roves and Barbours and Kochs– are now worried that their champion might get bruised. The New York Times sumarrizes

Their message: if we ever want to take back the White House, we have to stop devouring our own.

That echoes messages I’ve gotten throughout the immigration fight, saying ‘It’s OK to oppose amnesty, but there’s no need to destroy Marco Rubio.’

Hmm. Some look at Rubio as he is and say, “why should this destroy him?” But others ask, ’why not’?

Rubio’s currently making forceful conservative statements on all these topics–he has to, to make up for his immigration apostasy. Once the immigration fight is over, though, they can take their turns as compromisable-issue-of-the-year.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; liarliar; panderfail; rubio

1 posted on 07/02/2013 11:04:22 AM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh
Rubio tried to shoot TEA Party in the @$$ and ended up killing his own cred.

RIP.

2 posted on 07/02/2013 11:05:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: drewh

We should treat Rubio as gently and fairly as his wing of the GOP treated Governor Sarah Palin over the past five years.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 11:07:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: drewh

Marco RINiO did himself in, and took Shawn Hannity with him.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 11:07:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Paladin2

Just be grateful we found out he was this dumb before electing him to anything more important.


5 posted on 07/02/2013 11:09:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Paladin2

6 posted on 07/02/2013 11:09:17 AM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

Rubio destroyed himself by being the most inept negotiator and representative of conservative ideas since Neville Chamberlain.


7 posted on 07/02/2013 11:10:10 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Pollster1

Well said, Pollster.


8 posted on 07/02/2013 11:10:37 AM PDT by drewh
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Just be grateful we found out he was this dumb before electing him to anything more important.

Yep, if he's going to crap on the floor, better in the 'mudroom' than the parlor.

9 posted on 07/02/2013 11:11:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: drewh

Hmm. Some look at Rubio as he is and say, “why should this destroy him?” But others ask, ’why not’?

THIS IS WHY:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3031064/posts

Double Agent: Marco Rubio Caught Making Different Amnesty Claims to Spanish, English Audiences

He has proven himself to be a two faced pandering liar


10 posted on 07/02/2013 11:11:56 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: central_va

Marco RINiO did himself in, and took Shawn Hannity with him.

Hannity reminds me of the mediocre kids who hung out with the jocks and “cool kids” because they wanted to avoid getting picked on themselves.....


11 posted on 07/02/2013 11:13:20 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: drewh; All

Rubio was doing his thing on behalf of big business. He knew exactly what he was doing. He will retire from politics a rich man. Just watch.


12 posted on 07/02/2013 11:15:31 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: Pollster1

Precisely! I haven’t seen the character assassination committed by the GOP-e against Palin.
It’s been, “What in the h*** are you doing, Rubio!”


13 posted on 07/02/2013 11:17:29 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: GraceG

Hannity has become an absolute joke. He’s nothing but a talking point tape recorder. No intellectual depth whatsoever.

Levin runs circles around him on theory and strategy.


14 posted on 07/02/2013 11:18:37 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: drewh

Rubio has set himself up as either naive or complicit in promoting a toothless bill, at odds with American interests.

The things he asserts regarding enforcement, have no basis in reality.

For that he will pay a political price.


15 posted on 07/02/2013 11:22:11 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: drewh
Rubio’s currently making forceful conservative statements Democrat talking points.
16 posted on 07/02/2013 11:26:25 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: drewh
POLL: RUBIO SUPPORT AMONG LATINOS SAME AS ROMNEY

Pander FAIL.

17 posted on 07/02/2013 11:26:29 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: GraceG

And a racist.


18 posted on 07/02/2013 11:27:03 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: headstamp 2

Are Limbaugh’s lips still glued to Rubio’s backside?

I couldn’t stand the whining so I stopped listening.


19 posted on 07/02/2013 11:27:30 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: drewh; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE :”That echoes messages I’ve gotten throughout the immigration fight, saying ‘It’s OK to oppose amnesty, but there’s no need to destroy Marco Rubio.’
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Rubio’s currently making forceful conservative statements on all these topics–he has to, to make up for his immigration apostasy. Once the immigration fight is over, though, they can take their turns as compromisable-issue-of-the-year.”

What (maybe) Rush and company failed to understand is that Rubio needed to be destroyed as soon as he was caught lying about that Senate bill. Same goes with Ryan now. But better late than never, Obama hasnt signed a bill yet.

But Rush made $$$$ off those amnesty commercials so there was no chance of that.

Where is Rubio anyway? Vacationing in Medico with some people smugglers?

20 posted on 07/02/2013 11:31:22 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: drewh

The deed has already been done, and good riddance. Next!


21 posted on 07/02/2013 11:31:57 AM PDT by pallis
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To: GraceG

He assumed no one else was fluent in Spanish and English?


22 posted on 07/02/2013 11:34:04 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia
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To: drewh

He never struck me as being a true believer. For some, “conservative” means chasing after a crazed Democrat trying to get him to slow down.

In the end, they wind up in the same place as the Democrat, but 15 minutes late and complaining about the cost.

And in the end, the Democrat gets 80% of what he wanted this time around, with “bipartisan” cover, and the rest next year.

“Conservatives” like this always find themselves dragged around by Democrats. They are happy, because they slowed the rate of increase, they took out some of the worst features of a bad bill... the Dems are happy because they now have the precedent and the structure and a budget and once a program is in place it is eternal.

“Conservatives” like this are Discount Democrats and they are the reason we are where we are. They don’t have any real principles so they spend their time reaching across aisles, looking for consensus, looking for the middle of the Democrat’s road, looking for a crowd to blend into and pretend to lead, and looking to hit the iceberg at 8 knots instead of 10.


23 posted on 07/02/2013 11:37:56 AM PDT by marron
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To: sickoflibs; drewh; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; EXCH54FE; GeronL; Travis McGee

” Where is Rubio anyway? Vacationing in Medico with some people smugglers? “

He is probably vacationing with big business, and big bankers. He has done a great job for them, and will be very well paid for it. Same with Ryan.


24 posted on 07/02/2013 11:39:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: drewh
I think this originated during MarcoPhone's (water break) rebuttal speech, but it's appropriate, now.


25 posted on 07/02/2013 11:45:34 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: drewh
‘It’s OK to oppose amnesty, but there’s no need to destroy Marco Rubio.’

Yes this is true; why bother to destroy Rubio when he doing such a fine job on his own.

Rubio had the chance to be a principled leader of a new and better Republican Party but he decided to take a short cut to leadership by riding his popularity with the Conservative base of the Republican party to gain a place in the present Republican leadership ranks.

But in doing so he had to sell out the Conservative base and back a bill that betrays the principles of Conservatism and destroys the relationship he had fostered with the Conservative base.

Like a jilted lover once that trust is betrayed it is never the same again. You can rebuild trust to a point but that first blush of true love is never again the same. Rubio can never again be what he was to those in the Republican Base, a hope for a better party.

26 posted on 07/02/2013 11:48:22 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: drewh

Some on the right fell for his SALES PITCH Hook, Line, and Sinker. VERY SAD.


27 posted on 07/02/2013 11:54:10 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: drewh

OMG!! Isn’t that basic GOP 101.....DON”T AGREE WITH THAT EVIL SCHUMER ON ANYTHING....HE”S VILE!


28 posted on 07/02/2013 11:55:42 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Pollster1

Rubio is a traitor.

He lied. Again. Again. And again.

He betrayed those who worked for him and donated to his Senate Campaign.

Rubio will never be elected President or Vice President.

Never. Ever.


29 posted on 07/02/2013 12:01:00 PM PDT by Oak Grove (H)
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To: GraceG

That is damning.


30 posted on 07/02/2013 12:03:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Re: “POLL - RUBIO SUPPORT AMONG LATINOS SAME AS ROMNEY”

Here's another rarely reported story.....

Massachusetts just held a special Senate election to fill the seat vacated by Secretary of State John Kerry.

The center-left Republican candidate, Gabriel Gomez, was a Hispanic man who avidly supported the Gang of Eight Amnesty.

The Democrat candidate was Ed Markey, a hard left Caucasian.

So what happened?

The largest Spanish language newspaper in the state endorsed the Democrat candidate, Ed Markey!

31 posted on 07/02/2013 12:04:51 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Only about 5 or 6 bigs here in Florida stephenjohnbanker.
Big sugar
Big citrus
Big cattle
Banking and
Tourism and keeping freaking manatees alive.
All but Banking depend on cheap labor.
And Rubio seems to be in the pockets of each


32 posted on 07/02/2013 12:21:43 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: drewh

Well I hope little Marco can cobble together enough hispanic votes to make up for the lost conservative votes in his next senate election. I wouldn’t count on it.


33 posted on 07/02/2013 12:28:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Joe Boucher

” All but Banking depend on cheap labor.”

Except for the trillions big banks will make off weak borrowers....

” Big banks will make huge money money lending to newly legal slobs, with no credit. 21%-28% APR,

You can’t make money lending to solid middle class borrowers with good incomes,, and 750 credit scores.
You make all the money off the illiterate slobs, and their 10’s of millions of relatives who will be allowed to come here too!


34 posted on 07/02/2013 12:36:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: Joe Boucher

Yeah, Rubio will be a rich man in no time.


35 posted on 07/02/2013 12:48:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: Oak Grove
Rubio will never be elected President or Vice President. Never. Ever.

At least not as a Republican.

36 posted on 07/02/2013 1:10:13 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: drewh

The entire US Senate is complicit in a coup d’etat.


37 posted on 07/02/2013 1:10:13 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Actually, I believe that the GOP elites responsible for all this should gather, party down and congratulate themselves.

With just this one blow, they’ve accomplished so much:

>They’ve got their very own portable wind-up real-life Hispanic who they can dress up now and then to demonstrate their wisdom and compassion, and maybe even get a few votes from the suckers on the side.

>They’re a couple of weeks and a few gross lies away from forever establishing themselves as the Permanent-Minority-but-Loyal Opposition Party. (Maybe they can even be relabeled as the PLOP to complete their transformation.)

>Last, and most important, they’re finally rid of those damned embarrassing Conservatives.

(I’d tell ‘em How-Sorry-I-Am-About-That before I hit the door, but I’m shamed to admit that I really should have done this many times over the past 30 years and never pulled the trigger. Besides, insincerity sucks.)


38 posted on 07/02/2013 1:18:49 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (For why should my Freedom be judged by anothers conscience? 1 Cor 10:29)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

If amnesty passes, the Republican party is D E A D.

They know it’s true, but they will be well paid for their treason.


39 posted on 07/02/2013 1:23:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: drewh

Nobody will ever trust him again. We are not destroying him, he has destroyed himself.


40 posted on 07/02/2013 1:24:48 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: drewh
‘It’s OK to oppose amnesty, but there’s no need to destroy Marco Rubio.’

Destroy Rubio? No way, he's carved out a leadership position in the Republican Party, he's the newly crowned leader of the ACORN wing of the Republican Party.

The Democrat ACORN group would have been delighted to sign up a few hundred thousand new Democrat voters, but Rubio's ACORN wing of the Republican Party are feverishly working to sign up 20+ million new Democrat voters.

41 posted on 07/02/2013 3:52:27 PM PDT by RJL (There's no greed like the greed of a liberal politician buying votes with your money.)
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To: central_va
Marco RINiO

Perfect!

42 posted on 07/02/2013 3:54:42 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: sickoflibs
Immigration needs to be broken into smaller bills. Most Americans are for closing the borders to illegals. The first bill should deal with that subject and that subject alone.

Our Representatives would love to have a 50,000 page bill that 'covers it all' and that no one understands. Then they can get back to the meat and potatoes of their jobs - tweaking regulations in exchange for BIG donations from companies.

After the borders are closed, then a bill's needed for dealing with with illegals who are still here. Republicans should fight to send them home... that discussion needs to happen. Our lazy ass cracker reps need to take the time to do 50 bills if that's what it takes to do this right...

43 posted on 07/02/2013 3:56:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: drewh
If Marco's got any character he'll survive this and learn from it (though that may not be enough to win him elections).

If Rubio's going to be destroyed Rubio himself will have the most responsibility, followed by the Democrats and the voters.

44 posted on 07/02/2013 4:05:51 PM PDT by x
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To: drewh

“Marco the Rube” is on his way back to the minors.


45 posted on 07/02/2013 4:07:19 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: sickoflibs

This is one of those things that is a deal killer. You cannot do this and come back and pretend to be a conservative after its over.


46 posted on 07/02/2013 6:27:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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