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Man jailed after massive weapons haul discovery
http://www.gmp.police.uk ^ | Published 07/02/2013 05:53:18 PM | unknown

Posted on 07/02/2013 5:03:12 PM PDT by redreno

A man is beginning a 13-year jail term after a large stash of firearms and ammunition were found in his Salford house.

Paul Gribbin (born 31/12/1970), of Lascar Avenue, Salford, pleaded guilty to nine offences of possession of a prohibited weapon.

He was today, at Manchester Crow Court, Crown Square, sentenced to 13 years in total, six-and-a-half years each for possession of an assault rifle and the seven offences of possession of prohibited weapons and three years for possession of a Ruger rifle, to run concurrently.

(Excerpt) Read more at gmp.police.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; unitedkingdom

1 posted on 07/02/2013 5:03:12 PM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

Oh man, I hope they never find my stash of pawn tickets.


2 posted on 07/02/2013 5:05:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: redreno
These included a self-loading handgun, a sawn-off shotgun, a semi-automatic handgun with silencer, a rifle, a pump action shotgun, a Ruger .22 rifle, a Glock handgun and a military-issue light support weapon.
3 posted on 07/02/2013 5:07:59 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: redreno

Piker.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 5:08:39 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

well, this is uk after all.


5 posted on 07/02/2013 5:08:56 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: redreno

It’s great to be an American! I have much more than all of that. I’m free, he’s going to prison. Thank you, General Washington for running off the redcoats!


6 posted on 07/02/2013 5:11:36 PM PDT by Southern Partisan (In NYC you can be fined for spitting on the subway. You can, however, throw-up for free.)
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To: redreno

What, he didn’t have a pocket knife?


7 posted on 07/02/2013 5:12:00 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: VAFreedom

and i get grief from uk people when i say the country’s been disarmed. and then this happens and lo, i am proven right.

uk guy will probably counter, well they must be registered and kept in armories, you know. but we’re not disarmed.


8 posted on 07/02/2013 5:12:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: redreno

Coming soon to a country with “America” in the name?


9 posted on 07/02/2013 5:12:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: redreno

Not-so-Great Britain....


10 posted on 07/02/2013 5:14:43 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

yes, this is a shame especially when the amish are taking over uk with axe.

the right to self defense is universal.


11 posted on 07/02/2013 5:15:10 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: VAFreedom

you mean the sand amish.

and yes, now knife/blade weapon attacks there are soaring.


12 posted on 07/02/2013 5:16:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Southern Partisan

I did too until that tragic boating accident in the Gulf.....


13 posted on 07/02/2013 5:18:17 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC M6A2)
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To: Cicero

Did he have a sling blade? (I call it a Kaiser blade)


14 posted on 07/02/2013 5:18:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: redreno
During a comprehensive search of the house:

a self-loading handgun
a sawn-off shotgun
a semi-automatic handgun with silencer
a rifle
a pump action shotgun
a Ruger .22 rifle
a Glock handgun
a military-issue light support weapon


An array of ammunition was also found including magazines and a range of bullets.

Detective Chief Inspector Chris Downey, based at Swinton CID, said:
"Gribbin's hoard was an astonishing array of weaponry the likes of which we rarely see."

"We might never know the full story behind how Gribbins came to have such a stash of guns, but we all know these weapons have two primary aims - to threaten or kill.


"Today's sentence hands out the strongest possible message - if you harbour illegal guns, in whatever guise, and we find out, you are guaranteed to be sent to jail for a significant portion of your life."


I would wager, this guy has had these weapons for a long time.  Having had them a long time, it's not very troubling to me that he has them.  He has had them, and they have been kept out of the hands of people who would have done something bad with them.  So what...

This sentence says, "We are perfectly willing to put our citizen in prision, if we change our laws to make a law abiding citizen a criminal by doing nothing at all."  That is not good legislation.  This man is not a criminal.

Here's one side slapper.  Take a look at those weapons.  They are mostly petty weapons.  This isn't a large cache of miliitary style weaons.  Where's the AK-47 the mix?  Where's the European Kalishnakov?  Where's the sniper rifle?  This guy is a duffer.  He's about as dangerous as a 1960 Vauxall.  Quick, pass legislation, haul in anyone who still owns one of them.  Give 'em 20 years hard labor if it's a day!


After looking at what types of guns this guy had, read that comment by the CID Chris Downey.  "Gribbin's hoard was an astonishing array of weaponry the likes of which we rarely see."

This guy should turn in his badge.  It's his duty to enforce the law, but that comment looks like something a young school-girl would make.

15 posted on 07/02/2013 5:20:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: DoughtyOne
"I would wager, this guy has had these weapons for a long time. Having had them a long time, it's not very troubling to me that he has them. He has had them, and they have been kept out of the hands of people who would have done something bad with them. So what..."

EXACTLY !!!

16 posted on 07/02/2013 5:26:19 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: knarf

Thanks Knarf.

California has done this same thing. They keep lowering the bar on so many guns that were perfectly legal twenty years ago. Now you’ve got a lot of people in the state who could be dealt with in the same manner.

Are those people a problem? No. You never hear of them getting into trouble. None the less, if one is found, he’ll likely go to prison. And for what?

We’re letting real criminals that are a threat out of prison every do due to early releases ordered by the courts.

Now, let’s disarm the citizenry. It’s a shame what is taking place in our homeland.


17 posted on 07/02/2013 5:31:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: razorback-bert
I've probably got more than that stashed here in the kitchen/office (except for the silencer). If you know how many you have, you don't have enough.

As far as ammo, my ex once asked why I was buying some particular ammo and did I have a firearm to match it? I told her a) I didn't really know, but the ammo was a good deal b) If I didn't have the matching firearm, I would just get one. ;)

/johnny

18 posted on 07/02/2013 5:32:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: redreno

I hope he didn’t have any hollow point bullets.


19 posted on 07/02/2013 5:33:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: redreno

These jerks would faint dead away if they looked in my gun safe.

I’ll send ‘em pictures....


20 posted on 07/02/2013 5:37:26 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: redreno

In Idaho we call this a starter kit


21 posted on 07/02/2013 5:43:13 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: DoughtyOne

I’d classify that list as a Birthday gift...surely not any kind of stash.


22 posted on 07/02/2013 5:46:25 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: VRWCarea51

In some ways it reminds me of guns a kid might accumulate through his life, from his dad, some friends, perhaps a local merchant.


23 posted on 07/02/2013 5:50:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: Southern Partisan
I’m free, he’s going to prison.

Yeah, but the NSA can draw DHS a map to yours when the time comes.

24 posted on 07/02/2013 5:57:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: razorback-bert

A USP ?


25 posted on 07/02/2013 6:01:42 PM PDT by BuddaBudd (F U B O)
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To: DoughtyOne; Jim Robinson
I'm ashamed of the behavior of the land of my ancestry. What happened to "Never, never, never ...

Send A Gun To Defend A British Home ... Pistols - Rifles - Revolvers - Shotguns - Binoculars

Stay safe.

26 posted on 07/02/2013 6:02:35 PM PDT by glock rocks (Stand up!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They're going to need more DHS.

/johnny

27 posted on 07/02/2013 6:08:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: redreno

Piker ....


28 posted on 07/02/2013 6:09:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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>> 13 years ... for possession

And sentencing periods for murderers, rapists, and pedophiles?


29 posted on 07/02/2013 6:12:04 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: razorback-bert

I wish someone would invent a self mowing lawn mower.


30 posted on 07/02/2013 6:13:12 PM PDT by KingLudd
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To: redreno

I’d love to know if he is a member of EDL, and did they go after him because of it...


31 posted on 07/02/2013 6:20:09 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks.....)
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To: redreno

Not having a Bill of Rights is a standard thing with third world countries like Egypt, Syria, Britain, Mexico, etc.


32 posted on 07/02/2013 6:29:05 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Drug abuse is not a victimless crime ... look at what Obama is doing to the country!)
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To: redreno

He had a Ruger .22 rifle! (hushed silence)


33 posted on 07/02/2013 6:33:31 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: redreno
"Detective Chief Inspector Chris Downey, based at Swinton CID, said: "Gribbin's hoard was an astonishing array of weaponry the likes of which we rarely see."

Golly! Nine firearms found. The Chief Inspector would be overcome with a case of the vapors if he ever set foot in a typical Texas gun show. Bring smelling salts, Chief.
34 posted on 07/02/2013 6:34:01 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: redreno

Coming soon to a country near all of us.


35 posted on 07/02/2013 6:36:41 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: redreno

The Gun Never Sits in Britannia


36 posted on 07/02/2013 6:47:30 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: redreno

>>On Friday 22 February 2013, police in Salford, assisted by the Project Gulf team, carried out a drugs warrant at an address on Lascar Avenue, Ordsall.<<

No drugs were found.


37 posted on 07/02/2013 7:02:11 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: razorback-bert

“Detective Chief Inspector Chris Downey, based at Swinton CID, said: “Gribbin’s hoard was an astonishing array of weaponry the likes of which we rarely see.”

LOL


38 posted on 07/02/2013 7:36:21 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: redreno

Is this the place where they evacuated a city block because of a live .22 long-rifle cartridge?


39 posted on 07/02/2013 7:39:09 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: redreno

13 years for a couple of guns, which were not used to hurt anyone. Another, linked on the same page, received 7.5 years for cutting the throat of another guy. Sounds like their priorities are pretty screwed up.


40 posted on 07/02/2013 7:40:05 PM PDT by RetiredNavy ("Only accurate firearms are interesting")
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To: glock rocks

I hear ya. I feel the same way.


41 posted on 07/03/2013 12:05:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: redreno

But did he have a sea mine, I wonder?


42 posted on 07/03/2013 6:34:00 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: redreno
For those who are mystified by the term "firearm" what you need to know is.... what is the legal definition of "firearm"

For your edification, I respectfully submit the following:

Firearm. (a) A shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length;

(b) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length;

(c) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;

(d) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;

(e) any other weapon, as defined in this subpart;

(f) a machine gun; (g) a muffler or a silencer for any firearm whether or not such firearm is included within this definition; and

(h) a destructive device. The term shall not include an antique firearm or any device (other than a machine gun or destructive device) which,
although designed as a weapon, the Director finds by reason of the date of its manufacture, value, design, and other characteristics is primarily a collector's item and is not likely to be used as a weapon. For purposes of this definition,
the length of the barrel having an integral chamber(s) on a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the distance between the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or breech block when closed and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked.

The overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to the center line of the bore.

I would think that with the above definition that there are very few that have as described.

What is above is the legal definition.... and for those who doubt it, I respectfully submit:
Firearm definition

Brought to you by http://www.ecfr.gov/

43 posted on 07/03/2013 6:46:13 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

‘Disarmed’ would indicate that we were armed in the first place. When the (admittedly silly) handgun ban came in during the late 90s, approx 100,000 handguns were handed in. Now in a country with a population of circa 65million this could mean one of two things; a) people were naughty and didn’t hand their guns in. Or, b) only a few people had them in the first place.

You can’t disarm a populace that’s not armed in the first place.


44 posted on 07/03/2013 9:33:29 AM PDT by Mitch86
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To: redreno

That’s a “massive” amount of firearms? LOL!


45 posted on 07/03/2013 11:14:35 AM PDT by Kip Russell
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