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Live Thread: Egypt Revolution 2.0
Various sources | Wednesday, July 3, 2013 | Kristinn

Posted on 07/03/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by kristinn

The Egyptian army has set a deadline of 4 p.m. Cairo time for the Muslim Brotherhood government of President Morsi to compromise with the people of Egypt (by stepping down.) Morsi refuses. 18 people were killed and 200 were wounded in clashes at Cairo University last night.

A Washington Post report from Cairo on dueling statements from Morsi and the army:

Waving his hands and shaking his fists in a 45-minute speech on national television late Tuesday, Morsi swore that he was committed to the democratic process that brought him to power and said that any attempts to subvert the constitution were “unacceptable.”

The army, in turn, posted a message to its Facebook page saying: “We swear to God that we will sacrifice even our blood for Egypt and its people, to defend them against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

In his speech, Morsi acknowledged that he had made mistakes during his year in office as Egypt’s first democratically elected president. But he appealed to Egyptians to give him more time to deal with the country’s problems.

Link to originial FR thread from Friday with many amazing photos.


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To: thouworm

“They will insist that there is a “moderate” MB that opposed Morsi and deserves a seat at the table.”

And here come the Salafis! They “agreed” on early elections!

I say, if they ever let them, the rebels and the army will just abort the gains.

0b0z0 loves abortion and would kill this baby in its cribb.


751 posted on 07/03/2013 5:28:15 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: thouworm

The Egyptians will tell Obama to eff off. They don’t care about his veiled threats and are more than happy to turn to China or Russia.

Just more bloviating by the pompous ass in the W H.


752 posted on 07/03/2013 5:28:17 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: thouworm; maggief; onyx

I post from the party

Good news screw you Obama

Egypt: Morsi Reportedly Being Held By Authorities
July 3, 2013 | 2350 GMT
An Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood spokesman and an unnamed security source have said that former President Mohammed Morsi is being held by Egyptian authorities, Reuters India reported July 3. Morsi was ousted in a military coup earlier in the day.


753 posted on 07/03/2013 5:30:48 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: thouworm
???

swpglasgow: #Egypt, the #ArabSpring and revolution today: Come to #MarxismFestival, Cheap travel from around the UK #marx2013 http://t.co/kckLPNyGF3 Jul 03, 2013, 23:38 UTC


754 posted on 07/03/2013 5:30:52 PM PDT by maggief
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To: thouworm

“Well...he always speaks out the two sides of his snake forked-tongued mouth so he can never be proved “wrong”,....”

Spot on!!


755 posted on 07/03/2013 5:36:22 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: caww

756 posted on 07/03/2013 5:38:13 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Wow!

Spectacular!


757 posted on 07/03/2013 5:43:39 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: maggief
Hard to say w/o research. Piggy-backing off instability. They are so tiresome!

Link: Marxism 2013

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** The Turkish Revolt with Ron Margulies, from the DSIP socialist organisation in Istanbul.

**Alfredo Saad Filho and Brazilian socialist Henrique Sanchez on the recent explosions in Brazil

** How should socialists organise? Panel debate with Gilbert Achcar, a founding signatory to Left Unity, Paul Le Blanc and others

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Highlights
Same-old same old....

758 posted on 07/03/2013 6:13:44 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: thouworm; hoosiermama

TY hoosiermama

Crosslink:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3038875/posts

Al Jazeera’s Egypt Bureau Raided, Personnel Arrested
Deadline ^ | 7/3/13 | Deadline

An Al Jazeera staffer told Reuters that at least five of his colleagues at the Mubasher Misr channel were arrested at the studio. The station was prevented from broadcasting from a pro-Mursi rally, and its crew there also was detained, Karim El-Assiuti said.


759 posted on 07/03/2013 6:15:44 PM PDT by maggief
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To: hoosiermama

Egyptian joke of the day:

Nasser, Sadat and Mubarak tried to get rid of the Muslim Brotherhood. Only Morsi succeeded.


760 posted on 07/03/2013 6:37:33 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: thouworm

What started everything.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2664849/posts


761 posted on 07/03/2013 7:04:44 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: All; maggief

MISC ARTICLES concurrent with ouster of Morsi:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/security-forces-raid-al-jazeera-egyptian-tv-channel-215924817.html

Egypt Islamist Channels Go Off Air After Army Announcement
http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upi20130703-230007-4485

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2013/07/us-eases-away-from-morsi-167594.html

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/saudi-king-congratulates-egyptian-head-state-221341784.html
Saudi King Abdullah sent a message of congratulations to the head of the Egyptian Constitutional Court, Adli Mansour, on Wednesday for being appointed interim head of state after the armed forces overthrew President Mohamed Mursi, the Saudi state news agency SPA reported.

Twitter (posted by maggief):
“Not Military Coup. Popular Impeachment” #Egypt

http://situationroom.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/03/should-the-u-s-call-it-a-military-coup/


762 posted on 07/03/2013 7:11:46 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; maggief; caww; melancholy; MestaMachine
Thanks for your link. OK if I also post on the first Live Thread. This thread didn't get enough attention the first time it was posted. No doubt there were other threads at the time, but this is a needed and necessary reminder:

Flashback: Obama Allies Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn and Code Pink Stir Dissent in Egypt

763 posted on 07/03/2013 7:19:27 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: kristinn

Just a reminder how it all started.


764 posted on 07/03/2013 7:38:43 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: dforest

The Egyptians showed all how to do it. No dictators.

_______________________

Not yet anyhow. It isn’t over until it is over.


765 posted on 07/03/2013 7:43:56 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: hoosiermama
Reviewing 5pm CNN Situation Room with Blitzer. I haven't seen this anywhere. Blitzer read part of Leahy's statement:

Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT), the chairman of the Judiciary Committee [Blitzer noted that Leahy is ALSO "chairman of the Budget Subcommittee on the State Dept of Foreign Assistance"], said Wednesday the United States was required by law to cut aid to Egypt following a coups d’etat.

“The Morsi government has been a great disappointment to the people of Egypt, and to all who wish Egypt a successful transition to responsive, representative government under the rule of law,” he said in a statement. “He squandered an historic opportunity, preferring to govern by fiat rather than work with other political parties to do what is best for all Egyptians. Egypt’s military leaders say they have no intent or desire to govern, and I hope they make good on their promise.”

“In the meantime, our law is clear: U.S. aid is cut off when a democratically elected government is deposed by military coup or decree,” Leahy added. “As we work on the new budget, my committee also will review future aid to the Egyptian government as we wait for a clearer picture. As the world’s oldest democracy, this is a time to reaffirm our commitment to the principle that transfers of power should be by the ballot, not by force of arms.”

Senator Patrick Leahy: ‘Our law is clear,’ U.S. must cut off aid to Egypt

766 posted on 07/03/2013 7:52:12 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: thouworm

discussed here as well:

http://swampland.time.com/2013/07/03/apparent-egyptian-military-coup-puts-obama-in-bind-on-military-aid/


767 posted on 07/03/2013 7:54:25 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: thouworm; crosslink; maggief; melancholy; MestaMachine; kristinn
Egyptian and Arab Newspapers Get It right!
768 posted on 07/03/2013 8:15:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm

Those communist terrorists had better stay away from Egypt because the kids there are wide awake and very aware of 0b0z0’s shenanigans.


769 posted on 07/03/2013 8:20:13 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor S. Alinsky, Fleet Maintenance, White Hive Trolley Bosses)
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To: hoosiermama; thouworm; crosslink; maggief; melancholy; MestaMachine; kristinn
Message to Obama from Egyptians..
770 posted on 07/03/2013 8:20:19 PM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm; crosslink; maggief; melancholy; MestaMachine; kristinn; hoosiermama
How Egyptians see Obama 'today'.
771 posted on 07/03/2013 8:22:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: maggief

I just looked at the site....

With revolt and resistance breaking out across the globe we are pleased to confirm these new meetings:

Egypt, the Arab Spring and revolution today with Sameh Naguib from the Revolutionary Socialists of Egypt and Ghayath Naisse from Syria plus others
The Turkish Revolt with Ron Margulies, from the DSIP socialist organisation in Istanbul.
Alfredo Saad Filho and Brazilian socialist Henrique Sanchez on the recent explosions in Brazil
How should socialists organise? Panel debate with Gilbert Achcar, a founding signatory to Left Unity, Paul Le Blanc and others

Other key meetings at Marxism 2013:

Richard Boyd Barrett, Irish TD, People Before Profit will join Maria Stylou from Greece and Jesus Castillo from the Spanish State to discuss the Struggle against austerity in Europe.
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A defining struggle: The Stephen Lawrence campaign 20 years on with Hassan Mahamdallie
Exposing the great police cover-ups : Orgreave, Hillsborough to today With Sheila Coleman from the Hillsborough Justice Campaign, speaker from the Orgreave Truth and Justice Campaign and lawyer.

The economic turmoil ripping through capitalism is matched by the crisis of ideas presented by those who rule over us. At Marxism 2013 socialists and activists will come together with some of the best speakers on the left internationally to explore the answers to the burning questions we face.

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Come to Marxism 2013 and join the debate.


773 posted on 07/03/2013 8:24:37 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: thouworm
Message from Egyptians to all non-Egyptians who are listening to 'CNN'....
774 posted on 07/03/2013 8:27:29 PM PDT by caww
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To: hoosiermama
Egyptians celebrate Freedom of Egypt at White House.
775 posted on 07/03/2013 8:29:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm

.....EU has recoginzed Egypt’s new government in a statement by Catherine Ashton.


776 posted on 07/03/2013 8:31:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm; crosslink; maggief; melancholy; MestaMachine; kristinn; hoosiermama

The Army leadership renamed from SCAF to now “The General Command of the Armed Forces”..


777 posted on 07/03/2013 8:34:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: Irenic
Of course must be a photo opp picture released from the Whitehouse so all know Obama is "concerned" about Egypt.
778 posted on 07/03/2013 8:39:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: melancholy
Egyptian YOUTH message to Obama
779 posted on 07/03/2013 8:43:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Obama, the useless man.


780 posted on 07/03/2013 8:43:35 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: maggief

I almost posted that photo...good I checked my pings first It is stunning! One of the best!


781 posted on 07/03/2013 8:58:12 PM PDT by caww
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To: melancholy

THERE’S A MOVE A LA EGYPT SLATED FOR COMING SUNDAY!!!!

Where? Who?


782 posted on 07/03/2013 8:59:47 PM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm

Is this ‘THE’ live thread on Egypt now?
Need to know where to post photos.


783 posted on 07/03/2013 9:01:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww; All

Obama’s concerned that he’s been caught out on what all those Egyptian posters proclaim: “Obama supports Terrorists”.

What is plain to other nations is unknown to Americans because of the protective shield our media provides the Resident of the United States. I pray that this is the beginning of this Muslim Brotherhood plant’s undoing and he takes all of his enablers down with him.

God bless our nation and all of you concerned conservatives on Free Republic!


784 posted on 07/03/2013 9:04:08 PM PDT by N-R-T (no rat tyranny)
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To: maggief
PREFECT ! ©

785 posted on 07/03/2013 9:04:13 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: kcat

Glad you’re enjoying...me too!


786 posted on 07/03/2013 9:05:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: N-R-T

Obama is NEVER concerned he’s been caught....he’s only concerned with how he can wiggle around, thru, or over ...he is so in over his head everywhere!

As for media...This started four days agao and we recorded it from the get go on the first thread (Egypt)...while the MSM said ‘nothing’ ...it was a definate “Black Out” to keep the duffas American people from seeing him as he is on the International stage....for the Banners of Obama were huge and hung all over Egypt....

Media also had to prepare their “spin” to keep Obama protected....this when it became obvious the whole world was watching...except the American people...because of course there was “nothing” to see.

I do not think this is the beginning of the end of the Muslim Brotherhood by any means....they will always regroup and wait in the wings like a venemous snake. If anything they will now be all the more determined.....it’s how their minds work....we’ll see flare-ups from their supporters over the days and weeks ahead....

I’ve spent four days listening and watching this Historical event...”worldwide”...and I got to say the American people are out of the loop of what’s really happening worldwide especially if the only news they watch is MSM.


787 posted on 07/03/2013 9:18:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: Truth29; All

So you think Obama will be causing trouble behind the scene. And who is backing muslim loving Grover Norquist who has conned most Republicans into signing his no new taxes ever pledge which is likely to destroy or at lease seriously weaken our military. Enter his name in FR Search and see what fascinating and frightening info you will find there.


788 posted on 07/03/2013 9:23:07 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: crosslink
A must see post!
789 posted on 07/03/2013 9:25:11 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: nikos1121; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

Regarding your questions who wants Morsi out, Why? To replace with who? Morsi only got 40% of the vote (Muslim Brotherhood). The MB had years of organizing time. The secular modernist supporters had only a year to organize. Now they have had 2 more years to get feed up and more organized. Morsi immediately moved to eliminate the old constitution which the well organized Islamist Muslim Brotherhood managed to dominate in the rewriting. Morsi also threw out the judiciary. Also, instead of putting energy in to improving Egypt, he put energy into enriching himself, and I presume his favorites.

In other words the people now have enough on him to be royally pixxed. The military is canceling the new constitution and reverting to the old one. Of course, the military are not saints, and run a lot of non military related businesses for fun and profit. Egypt is not pro Iran and has supported the Syrian rebels. Once Morsi is out there will be a lot of in fighting to see what faction(s) can attract the most wide support and votes. I don’t think this will become a military dictatorship.


790 posted on 07/03/2013 9:32:36 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: maggief; onyx

Egypt celebrates the overthrow of Morsi regime in Tahrir

791 posted on 07/03/2013 9:38:57 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

If the figure of 33 million in the street is true, that is huge. The population of Egypt is 80 million, many are babes and young children. Others are very old and the weather is very hot, and 1/2 are women. You do the math.


792 posted on 07/03/2013 9:43:16 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: caww

That’s such a great photo. Thanks so much, caww!


793 posted on 07/03/2013 9:45:17 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: gleeaikin

<...”Once Morsi is out there will be a lot of in fighting to see what faction(s) can attract the most wide support and votes. I don’t think this will become a military dictatorship.”...>

This occurs within our governance as well...we just generally don’t see the passion and emotions...Egyptians are more forthright emotionally.

I think one of the difficulties is too many that run there believe if they get the majority vote, then they are the winners to “Rule”. Operating under their old standards of reasoning. Do they understand “Governance” is not the same as “Ruling” a nation? Obviously Morsi did not...but then non of the Muslim Brotherhood do...they have another agenda entirely.


794 posted on 07/03/2013 9:47:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: gleeaikin

Google earth had it at 17 million ‘early on’...the most remarkable thing is to have that enormous amount of people that ‘calm’ ,over four days, is stunningly amazing! Truly astounding!


795 posted on 07/03/2013 9:51:25 PM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm

HUGE PLACEMARK


796 posted on 07/03/2013 9:53:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: caww; crosslink

YES; this is the live thread for the foreseeable future (I hope).

There was a suggestion back in the posts 500’s of a new thread raised by crosslink, but that was about Tunisia following Egypt’s example:

Post 539 and post 587:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/07/03/uk-tunisia-opposition-idUKBRE9620ZZ20130703

I also think that was what melancholy was referring to in your question to her in post 782; i.e., she also was referring to Tunisia


797 posted on 07/03/2013 9:54:17 PM PDT by thouworm (Steyn: They let [Stevens] die, and then told lies over his coffin.They did that to one of their own.)
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To: onyx

Harder to find right now as it’s still night there and relatively quiet.....hopefully not a calm before a storm...but don’t be surprised if some upheaval over the next days and weeks....

“New Shoes” always rub and sometimes blister if the “fit” is not right.... Egypt will find the way I hope...because it’s good for Israel that they do.


798 posted on 07/03/2013 9:54:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: thouworm
Yes...I jumped too fast on that in hind site.

No doubt Egypt leads the way in the Middle East when it comes to trying to get it right....others do follow her....yet with much uncertainty for all in the East these days.

Wonder what Assad thinks of this...he's watched them all fall and likely smirking as he still stands.

799 posted on 07/03/2013 9:58:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: onyx

800 posted on 07/03/2013 10:20:27 PM PDT by caww
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