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I Like Barack: Obama Reminds Historian Brinkley of Eisenhower
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 07/05/2013 5:23:00 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

This Fourth of July weekend is turning into an unforseen laff-fest. Yesterday we had NBC featuring a photo of President Obama making what he might have thought was an assertive hand gesture while discussing the situation in Egypt with his aides.

Today treats us to historian Douglas Brinkley, on Morning Joe, claiming that when it comes to foreign policy, President Obama reminds him of, yes, Supreme-Allied-Commander-turned-President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

View the chuckle-worthy video here.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barackobama; douglasbrinkley; dwighteisenhower; gorbasm; idiot; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Eisenhower wasn’t a race-obsessed incompetent Muslim.

Apples and Oranges.


41 posted on 07/05/2013 6:12:20 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Yorlik803

Eisenhower was not a great military leader. Eisenhower was a political general. He had literally no combat experience when he was promoted rapidly in the beginning of WWII. His brother Milton was a high level official in the FDR Administration and Eisenhower was able to play the political game.

His decisions during WWII were not great. The invasion of North Africa was a disaster until a peace with the French defenders were negotiated by others. American troops under Eisenhower’s command were decisively defeated at the Kasserine Pass.

Patton saved the Sicilian campaign from poor planning. Eisenhower and others refused to get the surrender of the Italian government after Mussilini was overthrown. The new Italian government wanted to surrender but Eisenhower refused to move quickly allowing the Germans to take over and necessitating a costly Italian campaign. After Patton was relieved the disaster at Salerno was the last battle of Eisenhower’s command in Italy.

The Normandy invasion was largely planned by the British staff. Eisenhower did oversee it and he was a good administrator.

After the invasion, allied troops were being beaten in Normandy and had heavy casualties. Patton rescued the Allies and commanded the move across France.

The German army was surrounded and trapped at Falais but poor planning allowed them to escape and fight again.

The inability to prioritize the capture and opening of the Port of Antwerp caused shortages of supplies, particularly gasoline. The Germans were defeated and ready to surrender in late 1944 but Eisenhower wasted resources on the Operation Market Garden disaster dramatized in “A Bridge Too Far”.

American Air and material superiority was decisive. By late 1944 the German Army was close to starvation and desperately short of men and material.

The German winter offensive caught Allied Command totally unaware. Patton again saved the Allies with his quick response at Bastogne.

In early 1945 the Allies could have easily captured Berlin and ended the war sooner. Eisenhower could have easily gotten the entire German Army in the west to surrrender.

Patton, who unlike Eisenhower, had combat experience in WWI stated that General Pershing was a far more capable commander than Eisenhower.

That being said, Eisenhower, for all his shortcomings was infinitely better than Obama. There is no comparison. Obama is a total disaster.


42 posted on 07/05/2013 6:13:51 AM PDT by detective
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To: Coldwater Creek

Thought it was obvious, sorry, I was referring to the person making the comparison and not to Obunga himself.


43 posted on 07/05/2013 6:16:40 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

ROTFLOL He is not Ike.


44 posted on 07/05/2013 6:19:14 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: scripter
I see the usual suspects of media flying monkeys are out in force again providing cover for Obama- this time over his Egypt FAIL. Obama has more identities than a Mexican illegal. First it was Kennedy, then Reagan, then Lincoln, and now...Ike. Obama is a shape shifter.

flying monkeys ping!

45 posted on 07/05/2013 6:21:15 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: detective

I think it was MacArthur who called Ike the best ... clerk he’d ever had.

That being said, there’s the old adage about good generals being tacticians, but great generals being logisticians.


46 posted on 07/05/2013 6:21:35 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Disgusting crap from a disgusting boot licker - nothing else left to say.


47 posted on 07/05/2013 6:30:22 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: rbg81

“Funny—I didn’t realize Eisenhower shrunk our military.”

Well, Ike was POTUS starting at the tail-end of the Korean “Police Action” which he brought to an end by threatening to nuke China to 1960. So, his tenure was during a bit of a lull. Consequently, he did draw down our conventional forces but at the same time increases spending on our nucelear capacity. Speaking of nukes, Ike also considered using nukes to break the Viet Minh’s attack on Dinh Bin Phu but was talked out of it by his cabinet. Ike supported integration, sent the 101st into LR Central High to ensure integration there. Also, implemented the interstate highway system. However, Ike did like his golf. Maybe that’s why Brinkley said Obama reminds him of Ike. Otherwise, the two have absolutely nothing in common. Ike was a straight arrow in all ways.......


48 posted on 07/05/2013 6:31:02 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: varmintman

My fault. I read your post wrong.


49 posted on 07/05/2013 6:31:37 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: yldstrk

Obastard is not cutting new ground just expanding on the foundation of an out of control FedGov™ created by Lincoln and Wilson.


50 posted on 07/05/2013 6:41:38 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: detective

Ike never struck me as a great military leader, good I guess. Patton was the superior general. If I were in WWII as a soldier, I would take my chances under Patton as opposed to Ike.


51 posted on 07/05/2013 6:42:52 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: rbg81

Actually he shrunk conventional forces,the army particularly. His DoD developed the doctrine of massive retaliation, and as he campaigned on ending the war in Korea, he had no desire to become involved in more limited engagements. He turned to the CIA to do much of the ground work in opposing Communist expansion. There are actual comparisons with Barky. Barky cuts back the military and relies on drones like Ike relied on the CIA. Unfortunately for Brinkley Obama knows nothing of foreign issues, desires, and conflicts while besides Ike’s own vast experience he had the Dulles brothers working for him. Finally, Ike had American interests as his guiding principle. Barky???...


52 posted on 07/05/2013 6:44:12 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I rate Presidents on the long term effects, either good or bad, they have on the Republic. If Obastard signs an immigration bill then he will move up or down (depending how you look at it) on the worst scale. Worst scale:
  1. Lincoln
  2. Wilson
  3. FDR
  4. LBJ
  5. Carter
  6. Obastard

If "comprehensive" amnesty is signed by Obastard the new list will be:

  1. Lincoln
  2. Wilson
  3. FDR
  4. Obastard
  5. LBJ
  6. Carter

53 posted on 07/05/2013 6:49:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: detective

“Eisenhower was a political general.” You seem to know quite a bit about Eisenhower. However, you neglected to mention his role in the 20th Century slave trade.


54 posted on 07/05/2013 6:55:50 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

nobama reminds me of a homeless grifter (with a sad story cardboard sign) I saw this morning trying to filch money from working people. nobama should be in prison.


55 posted on 07/05/2013 6:56:14 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ike showed no tolerance for dishonest or illegal conduct in his administration. Those who were dishonest, were summarily discharged.


56 posted on 07/05/2013 7:42:50 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: central_va

You are so right. It was Lincoln who lay the precedents of unconstitutional actions that other presidents would follow. Lincoln is the absolute worst president in the history of this nation.


57 posted on 07/05/2013 7:47:09 AM PDT by TheCPA
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks governsleastgovernsbest.

Clearly not a real historian, but he plays one on TV.


58 posted on 07/05/2013 8:18:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
President Eisenhower's foreign policy accomplishments include: Eisenhower and his Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, most certainly did not lead from behind.
59 posted on 07/05/2013 8:31:56 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Yorlik803

Ike as general= 9
Ike as POTUS=4
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I liked that Ike implemented “Operation Wetback” to deport about 5 million illegals, to provide jobs for returning vets after WWII. Ike also was the impetus for the USA Interstate Highway system. Where would we be today without the Interstates connecting everyone and the transport of goods across this country?

I only give him a failing grade for pushing for the formation of the United Nations. It may have seemed like a good thing after the war, but it has long out-lived its usefullness and needs to be dismantled!

If we EVER get a sentient President and a Conservative Legislature, they should move to stop all payments to the UN, tell the UN they have to move out of America and ignore all the ridiculous edicts the UN espouses!

Sorry for the little rant. I HATE the UN!


60 posted on 07/05/2013 9:32:14 AM PDT by octex
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