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Water surplus in Israel? With desalination, once unthinkable is possible
JTA ^ | May 28, 2013 | Ben Sales

Posted on 07/05/2013 5:34:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Drawn from deep in the Mediterranean Sea, the water has flowed through pipelines reaching almost 4,000 feet off of Israel's coast and, once in Israeli soil, buried almost 50 feet underground. Now, it rushes down a tube sending it through a series of filters and purifiers. After 90 minutes, it will be ready to run through the faucets of Tel Aviv.

Set to begin operating as soon as next month, Israel Desalination Enterprises Technologies' Sorek Desalination Plant will provide up to 26,000 cubic meters -- or nearly 7 million gallons -- of potable water to Israelis every hour. When it's at full capacity, it will be the largest desalination plant of its kind in the world...

Until the winter of 2011-'12, water shortages were a dire problem for Israel; the country had experienced seven straight years of drought beginning in 2004... Some even anticipate an event that was once unthinkable: a water surplus in Israel.

IDE opened the first major desalination plant in the country in the southern coastal city of Ashkelon in 2005, following success with a similar plant in nearby Cyprus. With Sorek, the company will own three of Israel's four plants, and 400 plants in 40 countries worldwide...

In Israel, desalination provides 300 million cubic meters of water per year -- about 40 percent of the country's total water needs. That number will jump to 450 million when Sorek opens, and will hit nearly 600 million as plants expand in 2014, providing up to 80 percent of Israel's potable water...

Fredi Lokiec, executive vice president for special projects at IDE, says the risks are greater without major desalination efforts. Israel is perennially short on rainfall, and depending on freshwater could further deplete Israel's rivers.

(Excerpt) Read more at jta.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Israel; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1994treaty; california; cyprus; desalination; gaza; israel; israelwater; jordan; sandiego; syria; water
Rows of filters at the Sorek Desalination Plant in Israel remove salt from water flowing in from the Mediterranean Sea. (Ben Sales/JTA)

Rows of filters at the Sorek Desalination Plant in Israel remove salt from water flowing in from the Mediterranean Sea. (Ben Sales/JTA)
Water from the Mediterranean Sea rushes through pipes en route to being filtered for use across Israel in a process called desalination, which could soon account for 80 percent of the country's potable water. (Ben Sales/JTA)

Water from the Mediterranean Sea rushes through pipes en route to being filtered for use across Israel in a process called desalination, which could soon account for 80 percent of the countrys potable water. (Ben Sales/JTA)

1 posted on 07/05/2013 5:34:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Coming soon to San Diego.


2 posted on 07/05/2013 5:35:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
UN Agenda 21 ain't gonna like this.

Gotta find some way to shut it down.

Carbon! Yeah! That's the ticket!

3 posted on 07/05/2013 5:36:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Good stuff .... What do they do with the sea salt ? Sell it to Hamas ?

...:o)


4 posted on 07/05/2013 5:38:49 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow.


5 posted on 07/05/2013 5:42:27 PM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Squantos

We had one in Key West but they closed it down wasn’t as high tech as this one.NOwadays the chrater boats all have desalt plants and ice makers on board.


6 posted on 07/05/2013 5:43:14 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Jewish leaders were always aware of the importance of water to their survival as a nation. That is why even today we are still finding evidence of their water storage and transportation/delivery systems under the old cities if Israel. No dummies they.


7 posted on 07/05/2013 5:43:22 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SunkenCiv

26,000 CMH - Wow, that is impressive for a single plant. Baruch Hashem.


8 posted on 07/05/2013 5:46:48 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: SunkenCiv
This is what Israel produces:

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This is what islam produces:

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9 posted on 07/05/2013 5:47:54 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Harriet Meiers is looking pretty good right about now.)
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To: SunkenCiv

surplus water is always a good idea, ignore those negative voices


10 posted on 07/05/2013 5:51:24 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SunkenCiv

Just WOW!


11 posted on 07/05/2013 5:59:37 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Squantos; Jeff Winston; rodguy911; Don Corleone; RobertClark; Jeff Chandler; ...

Ironically, I first read about this DORO (deep ocean reverse osmosis) some years ago in the anti-Semitic LaRouche rag, “21st Century Science and Technology”, in an article making wild, unsubstantiatable claims (blatant lies) about how water used to be plentiful until the Jews got control of all the wells.


12 posted on 07/05/2013 6:07:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: 4rcane

>>surplus water is always a good idea

Got Aquaponics?

http://foodmachine.org/about/

If you give a Socialist a fish, all you’ve done is feed the appetite of Ba’al.

If you teach them to grow their own fish, OTOH...


13 posted on 07/05/2013 6:08:13 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: rodguy911; Tijeras_Slim

Oh I’m familiar with em, saw em used all over the Persian Gulf etc ... Seems the disposal of the salt byproduct was the onus of such. Over at sandia labs they have a solar power tower that uses mirrors to focus heat on a chamber of salt which becomes so hot it runs a steam generator thru the night after going to a molten state during the day.....

Seems a sunny place like Israel could profit with such use of waste salt.

Not sure if the salt and sun tower is still at sandia labs. It was pretty much maintenance free and running well when I was last there...

I’m all for desalination.... Just aware of the waste product associated with it. Still carry a military issued desalinator pump that makes ya sweat a gallon to get a pint...:o)

Stay safe !


14 posted on 07/05/2013 6:14:15 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Deep sea water less salty ? Gonna have to go read about that DORO thang.....

Stay safe !


15 posted on 07/05/2013 6:16:23 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

With the gas discoveries this should enhance their economic development tremendously.


16 posted on 07/05/2013 6:30:01 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: Squantos

Deep sea water is *more* salty — though more demanding on engineering and equipment, DORO works better because of that greater difference between the brine at the inlet and the fresh water emerging from the process. :’)


17 posted on 07/05/2013 6:34:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

This is an old story. Israel has been desalinating seawater for more than 25 years. That’s why their land is green and fertile, while the rest of the Middle East is parched and dead. And y’all are just now learning about it?


18 posted on 07/05/2013 6:36:08 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: MSF BU

Since disengagement, fences, and missile defense, Israel’s economy has improved. All that’s left to do now is to keep on keepin’ on, and battling with the suicidal leftist useless idiots.


19 posted on 07/05/2013 6:36:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Squantos

No, they sell it to Morton. We Americans love our salt.


20 posted on 07/05/2013 6:37:29 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: jespasinthru

Salt Licks for everybody !.... :o)


21 posted on 07/05/2013 7:04:25 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: jespasinthru

Israel did a little desalination of Dead Sea waters, that goes back to 1967 I think; these new plants are among the largest in the world, one of them is *the* largest. Syria cut off part of Jordan’s water supply years ago (illegally of course, the Assad dynasty is as lawless as they come); the 1994 treaty requires Israel to supply Jordan out of Israeli supplies. Due to the use of the Jordan river waters for irrigation and potable water, the surface of the Dead Sea has dropped tens of meters since 1970.


22 posted on 07/05/2013 7:04:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Squantos

They have a novel, low power usage climate control system to use the salt. Pull the air in through salt, then a membrane that captures the moisture, then evaporative cooling, then through another membrane. Works very well in more humid climates by using salt to precipitate the humidity out of air pulled through it, then using that moisture in the now-dry air like an old-fashioned swamp cooler, then removing the humidity once again. Operating costs are something on the order of 20% of conventional air conditioning. There are industrial installations in operation now, not sure of any residential application yet.


23 posted on 07/05/2013 7:13:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Now, if you build 100 of these in Africa, run pipelines throughout the continent, build economies that would thrive off of farming, fresh water fisheries and greenery, we could cure global warming.

The left would hate that, especially if Israel is building them.


24 posted on 07/05/2013 7:42:18 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Israel is one smart country. Look at all the good items that have come out of the Technion in Haifa. The Technion is Israel’s MIT.

Love this line in the article.:

international bodies like the United Nations could pressure Israel to distribute it for free to unfriendly neighboring countries, Shaham said.

Always a liberal leftist who wants Israel to do something for people wanting to destroy them.


25 posted on 07/05/2013 8:55:34 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

No pun intended but that’s a cool concept.... Got to read up on that.

Thanks !


26 posted on 07/05/2013 9:21:12 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: RegulatorCountry

This system ?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-57319061-54/salt-driven-air-conditioner-looks-to-slash-energy/

Looks promising.... Thanks again for the information.


27 posted on 07/05/2013 9:42:52 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m amazed Republicans don’t propose this for western states as a way of buying votes and getting back in the game.

Propose a few of these and TIE IT TO 4-6 STATES WATER RIGHTS.

just a thought...


28 posted on 07/05/2013 9:42:53 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (God humbles and (if need be) destroys the false idols of the peoples. Be patient, folks...)
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To: ncfool; Finalapproach29er

Thanks.


29 posted on 07/05/2013 9:53:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Any technology that the Israelis are creating, Hamas has already invented and put into operation for the Palestinian people. In fact, the Israelis stole the ideas from Muslim engineers.


30 posted on 07/05/2013 10:23:39 PM PDT by lurk
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow, this sort of puts a thumb up the backside of the greenies who insist that the world will soon and permanently run out of drinking water.


31 posted on 07/05/2013 10:27:46 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Squantos

That’s a variation upon it. The one I was recalling was Israeli, the company was headquartered by the dead sea. Must’ve been Advantix, which has since relocated sales headquarters to Miami. But, I can’t find the article describing the system as I’m recalling it, with two membranes. The one described below doesn’t have them:

http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/12/a-new-way-to-squeeze-humidity-out-of-the-air/


32 posted on 07/06/2013 4:12:06 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Squantos

Still there, don’t know if it operates much.


33 posted on 07/06/2013 5:26:03 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SunkenCiv
"Water surplus in Israel? With desalination, once unthinkable is possible"

What's happening is foretold in the Bible:

Is 35:1: "The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose." Prophecy watchers, call your office.

34 posted on 07/06/2013 5:45:08 AM PDT by tom h
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To: SunkenCiv

If you’re touching on a reality, I’m glad.

This is the sort of thing Southern California should be a world leader in.


35 posted on 07/28/2013 12:13:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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