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Morsi Spurned Deals, Seeing Military as Tamed
The New York Times ^ | July 6, 2013 | David D. Kirkpatrick and Mayy El Sheikh

Posted on 07/07/2013 8:55:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

CAIRO — As President Mohamed Morsi huddled in his guard’s quarters during his last hours as Egypt’s first elected leader, he received a call from an Arab foreign minister with a final offer to end a standoff with the country’s top generals, senior advisers with the president said.

The foreign minister said he was acting as an emissary of Washington, the advisers said, and he asked if Mr. Morsi would accept the appointment of a new prime minister and cabinet, one that would take over all legislative powers and replace his chosen provincial governors....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coup; egypt; islam; mohamedmorsi; morsi; muslimbrotherhood; obama; susanrice
Imagine **someone else's** name where you see Morsi.
1 posted on 07/07/2013 8:55:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy....


2 posted on 07/07/2013 8:56:46 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do you mean “That Guy”?


3 posted on 07/07/2013 8:58:16 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Three things are certain in this life:

1. Death
2. Taxes
3. War with islam


4 posted on 07/07/2013 9:09:15 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Imagine **someone else’s** name where you see Morsi. “

Imagine someone else’s name when you see Sisi? We have no equals here. Unlike Egypt, we have a “weak” military, at least at the top.


5 posted on 07/07/2013 9:13:26 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

““Imagine **someone else’s** name where you see Morsi. “

Do we not see what that “someone else” has been doing to the military leadership of this country? Perhaps he is trying to avoid seeing his name on a headline of the this thread.


6 posted on 07/07/2013 9:28:11 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never happen.
We have ‘’perfumed princes’’, not military patriots.
Our generals are pantywaists and entrenched sycophants.
Not a one of them would hesitate ordering troops to shot, strafe, bomb or kill protesting American citizens.


7 posted on 07/07/2013 9:29:04 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like the NY times is trying to seize the narrative on behalf of the administration and portrait it like it was heavily involved.

It’s apparent to me at least that the original elections electing Morsi and ushering in the Muslim Brotherhood was something less then a free election and more of an orchestration of trying to make Egypt stable with the administrations preferred leader. If you’re reading that as the administration taking part and at the minimum turning a blind eye to election manipulation and fraud then you’re thinking like I’m thinking.

The Egyptian military, sensing that ‘20 million people can’t be wrong’ quickly stepped in and stopped a potential nightmare scenario of unleashed sectarian violence and totally surprised the State Department who probably thought things couldn’t move that fast. Why else would John “Thursten Howell the 3rd” Kerry be caught so off guard and then with all the administrations hubris behind him, deny he was on his boat vacationing while Morsi fell from power?

The Egyptians will continue to get U.S aide, the Egyptian military will continue to get U.S money and Military aid because the U.S needs Egypt more than Egypt needs the U.S. Egypt can easily turn to Russia and Putin for aid-in-kind and have a sympathetic friend in forming the type of government that Egypt needs at this point — a violently secular civilian government. Something the U.S can’t do as it continues to try and be all things to all people.


8 posted on 07/07/2013 9:43:26 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dictators immediately turn into wet noodles when they lose the military. I am sure Zero is watching and wondering where his Homeland Security gestapo forces fit into this picture?
9 posted on 07/07/2013 9:52:15 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Progov

“Perhaps he is trying to avoid seeing his name on a headline of the this thread.”

Well you may be correct. He’s been “offing” all the “real senior military officers” that we have and allowing the weak tit sucking liberals to ascend to the top spots. Can you imagine how we would fight a real war for our country with these people?


10 posted on 07/07/2013 10:29:13 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Thumper1960
"At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch. The Bonus Marchers, believing the troops were marching in their honor, cheered the troops until Patton ordered[citation needed] the cavalry to charge them—an action which prompted the spectators to yell, "Shame! Shame!"

Shacks that members of the Bonus Army erected on the Anacostia Flats burning after the confrontation with the military.

After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and adamsite gas, an arsenical vomiting agent, entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp and President Hoover ordered the assault stopped.

However Gen. MacArthur, feeling the Bonus March was an attempt to overthrow the U.S. government, ignored the President and ordered a new attack. Fifty-five veterans were injured and 135 arrested.[11] A veteran's wife miscarried. When 12-week-old Bernard Myers died in the hospital after being caught in the tear gas attack, a government investigation reported he died of enteritis, while a hospital spokesman said the tear gas "didn't do it any good."[15]

During the military operation, Major Dwight D. Eisenhower, later the 34th President of the United States, served as one of MacArthur's junior aides.[16] Believing it wrong for the Army's highest-ranking officer to lead an action against fellow American war veterans, he strongly advised MacArthur against taking any public role: "I told that dumb son-of-a-bitch not to go down there," he said later. "I told him it was no place for the Chief of Staff."[17] Despite his misgivings, Eisenhower later wrote the Army's official incident report which endorsed MacArthur's conduct.[18]"

11 posted on 07/07/2013 11:20:17 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

To those who are certain rank and file US troops will NOT attack American citizens, the Bonus Army battle should be exhibit A.
Exhibit B should be Kent State.
We already know far too many ‘’peace officers’’ will be creaming their battle fatigues, just to get a chance to blast away at those they hypocritically claim to ‘protect and serve’.


12 posted on 07/07/2013 2:00:21 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.

[snip] ...he received a call from an Arab foreign minister with a final offer to end a standoff... The foreign minister said he was acting as an emissary of Washington, the advisers said, and he asked if Mr. Morsi would accept the appointment of a new prime minister and cabinet, one that would take over all legislative powers and replace his chosen provincial governors... [/snip]

Nice move by Zero — plausible deniability, Morsi remains in power but appears to have taken the steps of his own volition, but the generals would never have accepted it anyway.

It’s interesting that, when the fertilizer hit the ventilator, the Salafist party in Egypt told the Bro-hood “up yours” — but of course the pro-Iranian Lew Rockwell FINOs love to blame every jihadist act on “Salafists”.

Al-Zawahiri calls for “victims and sacrifices”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3040085/posts
[snip] He criticised Salafi groups for participating in elections after promises to the contrary, because the elections did not follow Sharia... [/snip]

Israel: Say, that border fence on the Sinai is coming in handy, huh?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3040062/posts
[snip] On Sunday, the Salafi Jihadi group, one of the biggest Sinai-based Islamist militant groups, issued a statement on a jihadist website saying that “current events ravaging the country” were affecting Sinai. It also threatened attacks on the “repressive practices” of the police and military forces on people in Sinai. The group has issued statements threatening attacks on Israel previously, but this was the first known direct threat they have issued against Egyptian security forces... [/snip]


13 posted on 07/07/2013 3:48:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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