Posted on 07/08/2013 7:13:17 AM PDT by lbryce
YouTube:Sukhoi35-Paris Air Show-June 2013
The Sukhoi35 doesn't take off for almost 2 minutes so skip to 1:25 as it begins rolling down the runway.
The takeoff is the most spectacular I've ever seen.
End in disaster for them.
Lt. Belenkos was 37 years ago. Today, those same Russians have been studying and paying attention. Some of the best engineers I have seen have been Russian. A few years ago not so much, but as of late, they rock. The new generation of Russians that never have lived under Communism have a new view of the world and they want it all. We had better not compare today’s Russians to those of 1976.
>>It’s rather amazing how someone could be so cocky and yet be so off the mark wrong.
Now you’re going down the road of an ignoramus. Your link didn’t show anything special about the takeoff. I understand you want to be liked and thought special, and that’s fine. But I merely asked you to point out what it was that I missed. There was nothing about the takeoff in your video that I hadn’t seen a thousand times before. Please tell me, at what time in the video (provide exact minute/seconds) does something happen that I am not seeing. If you can’t provide that then I call BOOB on you.
And then, not wanting to waste more time on a losing cause, I quickly located a youtube video of a takeoff that does show something interesting, and you act as if I staked my life upon it. And now you’re investing your time on the internet creating enemies out of FReepers. Good luck with that. You’ll fail.
Some people seek out, enjoy confrontation as means to validate themselves and post comments that have no bearing on reality to that very end. I know your type. You're scary. Find someone else to get the only thrills you manage to indulge in.
Ten-four. I have always admired Russian artistry. Where our creations are great, fine and work well, the equivalent Russian creation, though it works no better than ours, usually has a certain artistic flair to it that makes it appealing to look at.
Case in point; They came up with a space shuttle after we developed ours. It was a shockingly shameless copy of ours. I only ever saw it once, when it was shown having returned from a mission, back around 1990, maybe. It looked amazingly like ours, but it had several beautiful but unnecessary aesthetic changes to the lines, the profile, the shape of the vertical stabilizer that made it pleasant to behold. I don’t think it performed as sell as ours; in fact I think it may have had some operational issues that resulted in their brooming it. I have never seen it since. Thank you for the update on Russian technical advances.
I know it well. They copied a lot of our design, but, frankly, I wish we could have cooperated as we are now. It is very expensive and our two countries could have shared so much over the years instead of letting our polidiots use boogieman tactics to build the military industrial complexes that they did.
Point out the minutes and seconds where it does something special, or ... (insert your pleasure here).
This conversation is lost.
Lbryce, the point is that RingerSIX’s initial comment was asking “What am I missing.” There was no intent that I can see to insult you. By your response you obviously felt insulted.
So kiss and make up you two.
Many of us have seen thousands upon thousands of high performance jet takeoffs. They pretty much all do that (short roll to vertical climb), and so many of us are jaded and expect something new.
As a general rule ,my posts,replies, mail, are written in the most polite, courtesy, professional manner. On the occasion I get sarcastic,demeaning responses, generally speaking, I won't do anything but if the problems persist, I go straight to the Moderator
In these case, there were many posters who wholeheartedly expressed similar reactions to my very own as being spectacular. So, we had two posters who were not impressed with the video. To me posting and getting a comment like RingerSIX from him was not that I was insulted but was taken aback by what I thought wa spurposeful mean-spirited-ness in an attempt to somehow deny whatever it is I might benefit from and responded to him in the manner it deserved.
But now in his final message he again uses sarcasm, belittlement in requesting I my waste performing some arduous task,measuring something or other to prove whatever it is he desires. Just before, your letter arrived ,I made the decision to discontinue any dialogue with him seeing the futility of it all.
Thank you very much for your interest in this issue to let you know how I appreciate you input and to let you know that I've taken your advice and as far as I am concerned RingerSIX is persona non grata.
As a general rule ,my posts,replies, mail, are written in the most polite, courtesy, professional manner. On the occasion I get sarcastic,demeaning responses, generally speaking, I won't do anything but if the problems persist, I go straight to the Moderator
In these case, there were many posters who wholeheartedly expressed similar reactions to my very own as being spectacular. So, we had two posters who were not impressed with the video. To me posting and getting a comment like RingerSIX from him was not that I was insulted but was taken aback by what I thought wa spurposeful mean-spirited-ness in an attempt to somehow deny whatever it is I might benefit from and responded to him in the manner it deserved.
But now in his final message he again uses sarcasm, belittlement in requesting I my waste performing some arduous task,measuring something or other to prove whatever it is he desires. Just before, your letter arrived ,I made the decision to discontinue any dialogue with him seeing the futility of it all.
Thank you very much for your interest in this issue to let you know how I appreciate you input and to let you know that I've taken your advice and as far as I am concerned RingerSIX is persona non grata.
Thanks MB. As you mentioned, many FReepers have seen untold thousands of aircraft takeoffs. I’ve been to air shows from Cherry Point to El Toro, and I merely wanted the original poster to point out to me what it was I was looking for in the video, since there was nothing I could find that I hadn’t seen F15/F16/F18/F22/etc do on many occasions. And it has ended up in a flurry of hurt feelings. Too bad.
I still wish he’d point out the minutes and seconds into the video where “it” happens.
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Maybe you’ll never believe this, but my original response on this post was sincere, and not intended to be hurtful in any way. I actually assumed I had missed something.
I really never took anything you said to heart, everything I responded with, to, was tongue-in-cheek one-upmanship conveyed in feigned histrionic playfulness, simply just having fun, poking fun at you,certainly at my own expense as well.
I was going to let you have the last word because I was not going to let things escalate any further, and was going to leave it at that.
I very much appreciate you taken the time and consideration to clarify what you've said, for the both of us, there being no reason why I shouldn't take you for your word, to simply have a good laugh and move on.
All the Very Best To You,
lbryce
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