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NO RICK PERRY RUN IN 2014, BUT MAYBE IN 2015
Powerline ^ | 07/08/2013 | BY PAUL MIRENGOFF

Posted on 07/08/2013 7:30:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Rick Perry has announced that he will not seek reelection in 2014. When he leaves office, Perry will have served as governor of Texas for 13 years (the longest such tenure ever, I believe) and, as John Fund notes, he has a fine record. Perry kept taxes low and business regulation reasonable, and it is no coincidence that approximately 30 percent of new private-sector job creation during the last decade occurred in Texas.

Perry will also be remembered for his extremely weak run for the presidency. His lack of fluency and failure to remember his own talking points cost him dearly. Aside from that, his momentum stalled when Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum attacked him from the right on immigration issues.

Perry didn’t favor of amnesty or a path to citizenship. He was attacked from the right for supporting interstate tuition rates to the children of illegal immigrants and for opposing a 2,000 mile fence (he wanted to put more “boots on the ground” and the use more “aviation assets”).

Perry’s vulnerability for taking these fairly mild immigration stances can provide a lesson to Republicans running for office in conservative jurisdictions.

Perry has not ruled out another run for president. Clearly, he would have to demonstrate quite forcefully that he’s not the same debater we saw in 2011.

In addition, Perry is less of a conservative favorite these days. In 2012, he supported the bid of his lieutenant governor for the Senate against Ted Cruz, the new conservative favorite.

Things are brighter for Perry on the immigration front, though. With so many potential Republican presidential contenders now supporting amnesty, Perry would not be stranded on the left on immigration. In fact, he could get to the right of much of the field by not supporting amnesty (to my knowledge, he hasn’t taken a position on the Senate legislation).

Perry would also win points for his pro-life stance. Under his leadership, the state legislature is on the verge of restricting late-term abortions.

But most of the 2016 Republican field will have solid pro-life credentials. So if a strong anti-amnesty conservative — Cruz, for example — enters the race, it’s difficult to identify Perry’s niche.

He wouldn’t be the establishment’s candidate; nor would he be the top choice of hard-core conservatives. His prospects would therefore be dim, even if he were able to show that he’s an able debater/campaigner.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2014; 2015; amnesty; illegals; laraza; perry2016; rickperry; rino

1 posted on 07/08/2013 7:30:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I still like him.


2 posted on 07/08/2013 7:34:50 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: SeekAndFind

A battle for the ages is about to begin. If the Dims can get their hands on the governorship, Texas will begin to turn as Colorado has turned. All it will take is a flawed Republican candidate who will be hammered in the media night and day, day and night until he or she is completely marginalized, publicly humiliated, threatened with violence, you name it, and voila! A Democrat in the Governor’s mansion.


3 posted on 07/08/2013 7:35:56 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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To: McGavin999

This was the Senior moment in the debate that saw Perry’s candidacy implode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCyTQEANlmM


4 posted on 07/08/2013 7:39:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is not good, because I wanted him in office when it’s time for Texas to lead the way out of communist dictatorship. The next governor might not be so attuned to what Obama is up to.


5 posted on 07/08/2013 7:40:24 PM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I supported him in the 2012 primaries, first as part of a Palin ticket and then on his own. I still would again, although supporting Dewhurst over Cruz could come back to haunt him with conservatives.


6 posted on 07/08/2013 7:51:38 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Defiant

Greg Abbott is more than capable of leadership.
What bothers me is if Abbot becomes Gov, who becomes the new AG?
Abbott has been a stellar AG.


7 posted on 07/08/2013 7:56:18 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: smoothsailing

How could he not support his own Lt Gov?
It’s was a political pickle.


8 posted on 07/08/2013 7:59:29 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Oh I agree, either way he was going to catch grief. I actually think he did the right thing. By going with Dewhurst he was doing what was best for Texas. It worked out well, Cruz still won and Dewhurst owed Perry his loyalty.


9 posted on 07/08/2013 8:14:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting. Fair reading on Perry.


10 posted on 07/08/2013 8:16:55 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

No. That was just when the conservatives outside Texas saw what we who had been working to rid ourselves of him had been saying all along.


11 posted on 07/08/2013 9:07:42 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unless he changes his stance on illegal immigration and/ or amnesty (I’m not actually sure if he supports this amnesty crap or not), it would be difficult for me to support him.


12 posted on 07/08/2013 9:33:14 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: McGavin999; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; BillyBoy

I NEVER liked him.

He’s GW Bush but without that silver tongue.

He only looks good when you compare him to even worse people like that clown Gingrich and everyone who’s ever run against him for Governor.

Anyone who supports him for President again after that pitiful effort last time isn’t playing with a full deck.


13 posted on 07/09/2013 4:16:01 AM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: mylife; smoothsailing; BillyBoy

How could he not? Cause DewCRIST is a RINO piece of crap who makes even Perry look good in comparison. How about that? Political pickle my ass. Perry backed the establishment candidate because he’s part of the establishment.

He’s not “his” LT Governor anyway, in Texas it’s a separately elected office.


14 posted on 07/09/2013 4:23:36 AM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rick Perry supports and fights for everything I believe in. What’s not to like? He just needs a really good non-establishment coach.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 4:33:27 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

RE: Rick Perry supports and fights for everything I believe in. What’s not to like?

How is he when it comes to amnesty and illegal immigration?


16 posted on 07/09/2013 6:40:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Impy

I just love you cowards who call in the harpies to help you fight a battle. If you don’t like Rick Perry, that’s your problem, but he’s done a masterful job with Texas and only the Texas democrats don’t like him.


17 posted on 07/10/2013 8:19:33 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Impy

I just love you cowards who call in the harpies to help you fight a battle. If you don’t like Rick Perry, that’s your problem, but he’s done a masterful job with Texas and only the Texas democrats don’t like him.


18 posted on 07/10/2013 8:19:35 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued
If you don’t like Rick Perry, that’s your problem, but he’s done a masterful job with Texas and only the Texas democrats don’t like him.

Wrong, many conservatives don't like his RINO hide either. Your standards must be pretty low if you think Ricky's mediocrity and Bush style "conservatism" is "masterful".

I don't know what the hell you mean by "calling in the harpies". If you mean PINGING other people I'll remind you this is a publicly accessible website and discussion and sharing information is what it's for. Anyone with Internet access can see this discussion thread.

What are you afraid of? Dealing with more conservatives that won't heap praise on your boy? Feel free to ping your list of fellow Perrybots and lets have a big party. Or not, I don't give a damn.

I tell you guys (and I'm talking to my "Harpy" pals now McGavin) I don't get the tools who go off complaining about other people getting pinged to a thread, and it's only the frothing bots who are in love with some politician who do it. I just don't get it. Do they think every disagreement should be treated like a one on one boxing match or something? It just makes no sense. Did I miss the memo we got telling us to act like kids on the playground?

19 posted on 07/10/2013 11:19:29 PM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: Impy
Right, pinging your buddies is called calling in the harpies around here. It means you can't handle something on your own and need your buddies to back you up. We saw this during the primaries, and you guys are the reason we ended up with Romney as our candidate. I strongly suspect you are Romney supporters hiding out as "conservatives". It's the same crew time after time and it always ends up with you destroying the candidates that could possibly win. I've been here since 1998 and you guys are the same election after election after election.

You attack in packs like the roving teenage gangs.

20 posted on 07/10/2013 11:48:58 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
Right, pinging your buddies is called calling in the harpies around here. It means you can't handle something on your own and need your buddies to back you up.

I strongly disagree and I find your opinion on the matter to be immature and asinine.

We saw this during the primaries, and you guys are the reason we ended up with Romney as our candidate

Perry was AWFUL as a candidate and blew his chance all by himself.

I strongly suspect you are Romney supporters hiding out as "conservatives".

You're wrong but I find it assuming that every Perrybot and Newtbot accuses anyone who doesn't like Romney's FELLOW RINOS NEWT AND PERRY of being Romneybots. You can stick it pal. None of the those "harpies" I pinged are Romney fans either, one actually is most anti-Romney person I've ever seen. Thing is though they don't like OTHER RINOS EITHER so they won't heap praise on Ricky just he was running against Romney.

I backed Santorum, I wasn't thrilled with him but he was the least objectionable by far and the only Romney opponent who actually had a chance once the voting got going. Gun to my head I'd choose Perry over Myth but Perry crapped out early as you may recall and threw his support behind the odious RINO Newt who I think might be even worse than Romney. You can thank Gingrich supporters for splitting the anti-Romney vote and guaranteeing a Romney win. Of course their line was "Santorum is a Romney plant", that seems to be the standard line of attack. Big load of crap.

21 posted on 07/11/2013 12:10:08 AM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: McGavin999; Impy; BlackElk; BillyBoy; sickoflibs

Captain Gardasil ? La Raza Rick ? Whut ? Sorry, Mickey, but he should’ve been out on his butt a decade ago. That Texas has blustery Jimmuh Carter-supporting RINO blowhards occupying the Governorship and rich liberal country-clubbers like DewCrist in the #2 slot is disgusting.

As for being a Willard supporter, I kindly invite you to review ALL my thousands of posts going back to 2005/06 on the subject. If you can find ONE where I ever endorsed him, you go ahead and post it right here in this thread. I wouldn’t vote for that Socialist fraud and Zero ringer in 10,000 years and I spent day and night exposing him and his despicable left-wing record. I voted for Virgil Goode for President in 2012.

I’ve been here since 1998, too. October 31st, 1998 to be precise. It was a Saturday. The first day I got the internet with a high-speed cable.


22 posted on 07/11/2013 1:01:03 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
OMG you guys are too funny! The fact that Texas is thriving while the rest of the country withers doesn't seem to bother you at all. The governor of Texas has gone all over the country getting businesses to move to Texas and the people of Texas are prospering but you're hatred of Perry shows that you are democrat operatives. No two ways about it. If you were conservatives, taxes, jobs, abortion, morality, would all mean something to you. The fact that it doesn't tells me, and anyone reading, exactly what you guys are.

The fact that you run in packs like a bunch of teenage boys should tell people all they need to know about you "conservatives" LOL

23 posted on 07/11/2013 7:26:12 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999; Impy; BillyBoy; sickoflibs

Texas has flourished in spite of that phony, opportunistic buffoon, not because of him. Seriously, do you have a little picture of La Raza Rick that you worship at ?

Conservatives don’t force little girls to get HPV vaccines, thereby bypassing parental rights (all the while the manufacturer of said vaccine was a big booster of Perry — more crony capitalism).

Conservatives don’t build massive highways through a state to speed up an illegal invasion throughout the United States.

Conservatives don’t go to racist organizations like La Raza and pander to their extremist agenda.

For you to claim Ricky as the paragon of Conservative virtue is an insult to anyone with an iota of intelligence. Ricky has been an opportunist all his life, a Democrat when it suited him, supporting both Jimmy Carter and was Al Gore’s TX campaign manager for President, and a Republican when the Democrats crumbled in TX, personally recruited by that turdpile leftist Trojan horse Karl Rove. A slick phony that runs a dime a dozen south of the Mason-Dixon line. I’ve seen his kind most of my life, though most had the common courtesy to remain Democrats.

BTW, I’m still waiting for those posts you claim I made supporting Slick Willard for all these years. Where are they, Mac ? Put up or shut up.


24 posted on 07/11/2013 7:44:48 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: McGavin999; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; Clintonfatigued; EternalVigilance
McGavin999:

I don't have big problems with Rick Perry. I also don't live in Texas. I have an adult daughter in Texas who is somewhat to my Right on several issues like Gardasil who would not vote for Perry for ANY office any more than I would vote for Senator Nancyboy Kirk or Mushmouth Mittler GOP-E Romney. I would have voted for Perry for POTUS against Obozo. Romney??? NEVER!

Perry has generally championed the pro-life cause and enacted effective legislation on that front. He has certainly kept taxes down, avoided regulation mania, been a solid pro-gun guy, is a practicing Christian of a conservative persuasion.

OTOH, he lacks discipline in public speaking and a sense of effective outreach to those not already in the choir. I think, but am not yet totally convinced, that he would be trustworthy on judges. I think he has an unfortunate weakness for the GOP-E as evidenced by his support for Dewhurst over Cruz. I like him as a personality and he briefly rose to flavor of the week before forgetting his own talking points.

In short, it is important to recognize his good points honestly but national enthusiasm is somewhat unlikely.

You call those of us who ping each other to threads like this "harpies." You would be surprised at the differences among us although the "harpies" agree on much. On an individual basis, sometimes we respond and sometimes we don't.

No one is looking to gang up on you here. You have as much right to your opinions and insights and to voice them as each of us have. Sometimes, we individually may agree with you and sometimes not. Don't be offended in the latter case.

Oh, and BTW, I cannot imagine that Fieldmarshaldj EVER supported Romney any more than I did. Facts are facts.

25 posted on 07/11/2013 1:47:45 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk

“I think, but am not yet totally convinced, that he would be trustworthy on judges.”

No, Perry is not trustworthy in that regard, either. I exposed him back in 2011 on his appointment of Xavier Rodriguez to the state Supreme Court, a La Raza pander if there ever was one...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818553/posts?page=25#25


26 posted on 07/12/2013 4:25:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; McGavin999; Impy; BillyBoy; sickoflibs
Conservatives don’t force little girls to get HPV vaccines, thereby bypassing parental rights (all the while the manufacturer of said vaccine was a big booster of Perry — more crony capitalism).

Conservatives don’t build massive highways through a state to speed up an illegal invasion throughout the United States.

Conservatives don’t go to racist organizations like La Raza and pander to their extremist agenda.

Ricky has been an opportunist all his life, a Democrat when it suited him, supporting both Jimmy Carter and was Al Gore’s TX campaign manager for President, and a Republican when the Democrats crumbled in TX, personally recruited by that turdpile leftist Trojan horse Karl Rove.

fieldmarshaldj,
Please help me out here. I wasn't a Perry supporter in 2012 and I am still trying to figure out who to support in 2016. My question is...is this all there is against Rick Perry?

I wasted the 2008 primary waiting for Fred and I wasted 2012 waiting for Sarah. No candidate is going to have 100% purity. Even Ronald Reagan had his skeletons from his governorship of California. If this is the worst there is against Perry, I almost wish I had picked him in 2012!

I would appreciate anyone's input.

27 posted on 07/12/2013 9:07:41 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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Is this all what is ? I expect the person I elect to be President to be trustworthy and to share my values. Plainly put, Perry doesn’t. He went out of his way to decry people like me, tens of millions of Americans of all races, as “heartless” for wanting the border secure and illegals sent home.

Because the border remains as porous as can be, thanks to BOTH parties’ leaders (Zero & Dubya), it has had a negative impact on my life (right up to being an audio witness to two attempted murders by an illegal neighbor). Anyone who would dare insult me to my face on that would be wearing a truss for the rest of their natural life, and they sure as hell would never get my vote for dogcatcher.


28 posted on 07/12/2013 9:55:11 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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RE :”He went out of his way to decry people like me, tens of millions of Americans of all races, as “heartless” for wanting the border secure and illegals sent home.”

That exchange was about giving in-state tuition rate discounts to illegals in college and not about the border, or even specifically deportation.

29 posted on 07/12/2013 10:06:35 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Except that is precisely what he meant, and the issue isn’t mutually exclusive. He went pandering to La Raza from the get-go. His credibility on the subject of the border has always been highly questionable.


30 posted on 07/12/2013 10:10:50 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I wasnt defending him or attacking him, just clarifying. One could make the case that in-state tuition is even worse.


31 posted on 07/12/2013 10:13:21 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

OK.


32 posted on 07/12/2013 10:26:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Defiant

You really think we are going to get out of this without people in the streets? Texas will be its own country again before this mess ends.


33 posted on 07/12/2013 10:28:01 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Impy

But Josh Brolin would not need as much makeup to play him in the movie.


34 posted on 07/12/2013 10:29:00 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Vermont Lt

I think that’s what I was hinting at. We need a governor of a large state to lead the way, and it seemed that Perry was aware it might come to that. He mentioned secession a few times.


35 posted on 07/12/2013 10:31:23 AM PDT by Defiant (In the next rebellion, the rebels will be the ones carrying the American flag.)
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To: Defiant

Its seems over the past few months I’ve come to realization that what we are hinting cannot remain unspoken much further.

I recall how stunned I was when I saw someone mention an American Coup d’etat here. I thought, “Wow, it hasnt come to THAT has it?”

While I don’t advocate it. I am seeing it written about more and more. And it scares me a little bit.

So, I am going fishing.


36 posted on 07/12/2013 11:31:40 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Ronaldus Magnus; BillyBoy

RINO apologists always go on about “purity”.

WHO’S ASKING FOR PURITY? I’ll settle for decency.


37 posted on 07/12/2013 9:00:12 PM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: Vermont Lt; BillyBoy

You got that right.

Ted McGinnley could also play him.


38 posted on 07/12/2013 9:08:56 PM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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To: Impy

In what, “The Rick Perry Story”? Boy, that would be a boring movie. You’d have to add some fictional “Dallas” type storylines to get anyone to watch it.


39 posted on 07/13/2013 11:16:09 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy

“Who shot David Dewhurst”? Works for me.


40 posted on 07/14/2013 10:31:38 PM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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