Skip to comments.State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman Self-defense is not a crime: VERDICT WATCH.
Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
I pray for a fair and just verdict. My support and thoughts go out to the Zimmerman family and the defense team as we wait.
Links to Live Streams (Thanks Carole):
Local WFTV~ http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream//
Click Orlando~ http://www.clickorlando.com/news/-/1637132/19533480/-/fm5b93z/-/index.html
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That Fox news legal was on with Hannity last night and wanted manslaughter badly. Mark Furhman said it is self defense and he should be acquitted.
Just reporting what they said. Don’t know.
Pretty confident that Don West was comfortable with the instructions. Clarification may be needed, but West is a picky lawyer (the pickiest, much to the chagrin of the Judge).
I think what is happening (my Holiday Inn Express receipt is here somewhere) is that the jury has dispensed with the 2nd degree murder charge and just wants to make sure they fully understand manslaughter. When they realize (i.e. get clarification) that self-defense (the same self defense that overcame murder 2) does the same for manslaughter...this trial is over.
That said, I had finished my bottle of good champagne BEFORE the results were announced on election eve 2012. Will remember that event to my dying day.
If he is found quilty of Manslaugter, after the prosecution put up no evidence of his guilt whatsover, this would be the biggest miscarriage of justice in the last 100 years. It was self-defense. To convict of Manslaughter it would mean that the jurors completely ignored the evidence in the case. Disgusting.
What does this mean?
How can these women NOT think this was self defense. I think they are talking and thinking too much. This is simple!
The talking heads also thought that OJ would be convicted because the jury wanted read back of the limo driver’s testimony and we all know what happened
Yep. .listening to all 4 locals. .one excellent point is the difference between the standard jury instructions and the ones that have extra case law concerning manslaughter. Yesterday West argued for the extra and Nelson said no.
An attorney on Fox News just said that these manslaughter instructions were the worst written she had ever seen. Very confusing with respect to whether or not jury can convict on negligence.
>>>>Jeff Weiner @JeffWeinerOS
Jury instructions: Jurors cannot convict on manslaughter in this case if #TrayvonMartins death justified, excusable, negligent or accident.<<<
If true, brings a smile to MY face....please dear Father in heaven, let it be so
Fox legal says this indicates they are not buying self defense.
KNEW IT. I’m upset now...Oh well....
They don't. It's all the same rile-up-everybody-and-hope-they-watch-us. They don't know what it "indicates" anymore than the man on moon. Sheesh. See #1529, P-Marlowe's theory sounds quite plausible.
Several attorneys. One female said, this manslaughter charge was a terrible and shouldn’t have happened.
May God in His mercy, free George Zimmerman. May He heal those in need of healing and quell the coming storm. Amen.
Praying for God to be merciful to George Zimmerman.
Exactly. People are assuming the jury is of one mind already. There's no reason for that. One of the jurors might think it should be manslaughter because Z followed and the others seeking the clarification to convince her otherwise. Nobody knows what's going on, but it's a mistake to think they are all thinking alike.
Thank you Papa!
The State didnt add it. In Florida, manslaughter is an automatic lesser-included charge to second-degree murder unless the State asks that it be excluded from the jury instructions. The Defense asked to have the manslaughter instructions stricken but the prosecution argued for it to be included.
I thought it was an automatic 30 years if one killed someone younger than 18?