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Jury weighing Zimmerman's fate asks question about manslaughter option
CNN ^ | 7/13/13 | Mariano Castillo and Greg Botelho

Posted on 07/13/2013 3:17:06 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks

(CNN) -- After more than 12 hours of deliberation, the six women deliberating George Zimmerman's fate asked the court Saturday evening for clarification on the instructions regarding manslaughter, the judge said.

That couldn't have even been a question a few days ago: Judge Debra Nelson ruled Thursday, over the defense's vehement objection, to include manslaughter as an option for jurors, in addition to the second-degree murder charge. Their third option would be to find Zimmerman not guilty.

The question -- which was read out in court, without the jurors present, shortly before 6 p.m. -- was the first posed by the jury since late Friday afternoon, when they requested an inventory of evidence. Afterward, lawyers from both sides approached Nelson's bench; their comments could not be heard.

How long other juries deliberated for in other high-profile cases One of 1,009 fatal shootings in Florida in 2012, Trayvon Martin's death stood out -- the various threads of the story helping to capture the public imagination.

There was, for instance, the fact that an adult had fired on an unarmed teen, soon after police told him not to follow the 17-year-old. And there was the accusation of racial profiling: that Zimmerman -- the son of a Peruvian mother and a white American father, who identifies as Hispanic -- had singled out Martin, at least in part, because the teenager was black.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; kangaroocourt; martin; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/13/2013 3:17:06 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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2 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Yup! It looks as though the girls intend to give Holder’s Black Pampers something to keep them cooled down.


3 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:35 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If America is a nation of immigrants, where's my free stuff?)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Lesser charge is BS. That’s not the charge he was on trial for. Prosecutors doing this piss me off.


4 posted on 07/13/2013 3:19:37 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Does anyone know if they have to find him not guilty of murder before moving on to manslaughter?


5 posted on 07/13/2013 3:20:37 PM PDT by GrootheWanderer
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To: Clint N. Suhks

It’s not horrible either.
My guess is that at least one person wants that option and there is a disagreement over whether the facts here make manslaughter an appropriate choice.
If all six wanted to take that option they wouldn’t have asked for clarification.


6 posted on 07/13/2013 3:21:10 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Looks like they are going to try and hang some minor conviction on him, not good.

He should cop a walk.

And then sue the media blind.

7 posted on 07/13/2013 3:22:12 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelosi in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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soon after police told him not to follow

FALSE.

8 posted on 07/13/2013 3:22:14 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

IMO the fact that they didn’t declare him not guilty within an hour means the jurors are idiots.


9 posted on 07/13/2013 3:22:49 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Unfortunately, my expectation has been conviction for manslaughter, since that would give the jury cover for not finding him guilty of murder. Some have to realize that this wasn’t a 2nd degree murder case, and wouldn’t have been able to pull the trigger for that charge.

They can’t just do what sensible people know is right: acquittal.


10 posted on 07/13/2013 3:22:58 PM PDT by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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The good news is that it looks as if 2nd degree murder is out. Now he is down to manslaughter. I think he walks.


11 posted on 07/13/2013 3:23:26 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Clint N. Suhks

You offer 3 choices to people, 90% will pick the middle one. It’s a dead lock this jury finds guilt of manslaughter. I won’t even take a bet. I’d be stealing money.


12 posted on 07/13/2013 3:23:32 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I’ve been saying all along that the wildcard here is the all female jury. I cannot believe the defense allowed this to happen. This is a very simple case. Most of what was presented was fluff and distraction. The fact that they are asking this question and that they have been out so long indicates that they are way over-thinking this thing. Emotion is ruling over logic.


13 posted on 07/13/2013 3:24:10 PM PDT by slumber1 (My real name is Rusty Shackleford)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Reversal on appeal seems automatic. Let us hope...


14 posted on 07/13/2013 3:25:13 PM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: Clump

I’m guessing its about 4 for not guilty and two for guilty of something. I am thinking hung jury at this point. I just cannot believe that 6 rational individuals would find GZ guilty of something like manslaughter.


15 posted on 07/13/2013 3:25:50 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

CNN’s reporting does not even come close to being nonpartisan. Don’t know why I’m surprised. Please excuse me for posting this.


16 posted on 07/13/2013 3:26:33 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Danger Will Robinson, Danger!

Remember this is CNN!!!

Expect nothing else than lies and distortion.


17 posted on 07/13/2013 3:26:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I believe this will end in a hung jury. One of the jurors will hold out knowing that she will be embraced and feted around the country as the lone protector of poor baby Trayvon.
18 posted on 07/13/2013 3:27:17 PM PDT by soupbone1
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To: Clint N. Suhks

While God is in control overall, these jurors can make irrational decisions of their own. I pray that the Lord will give them the same guts it took to hit the Normandy beaches, or win Pork Chop Hill. “Not guilty” is not the easy way out, here.


19 posted on 07/13/2013 3:27:28 PM PDT by imardmd1
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To: szweig

Kangaroo show court. This is despicable. It cannot stand!


20 posted on 07/13/2013 3:27:42 PM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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