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Hostess Brands Returns to Snack Cake Market, Will Not Hire the Professional Bakers
AFL-CIO ^ | 7/12/2013 | Jackie Tortora

Posted on 07/13/2013 4:55:38 PM PDT by mdittmar

Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM) President David B. Durkee issued the following statement in response to the impending re-entry by Hostess Brands, LLC, into the snack cake market:

“This coming week, Hostess Brands, LLC, is expected to re-enter the wholesale snack cake market.  Despite the fanfare, the long-term viability of this effort is highly uncertain. Rather than hire professional, experienced bakers who have produced quality snack cakes in the company’s bakeries for decades, Hostess management has chosen instead to hire primarily workers with little or no experience in the demanding wholesale snack cake baking industry.

“The BCTGM has consistently stated our interest in working cooperatively and productively with the new owners of this company.  We have always maintained that the experience, skill and professionalism of our members offer the new owners, who have no experience in the wholesale snack cake business, the best chance for long-term success in consistently putting out a quality product.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; bakery; biglabor; deathpanels; dtaylor; hostess; jamesphoffa; josephhansen; obamacare; teamsters; twinkies; ufcw; unions; unitehere; zerocare
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To: central_va

I know that products made in the same bakery, going to the same delivery
point had to be delivered by two different union trucks. I don’t know how
much the bakers made or their benefits. However, if money is saved by
changing the delivery system, maybe the cost of these products will be
lower.


51 posted on 07/13/2013 5:20:24 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: central_va

The Teamsters, as I recall, were the only union that was willing to compromise. I believe I read a statement they put out urging the bakers’ union to go back to the bargaining table and work something out. The bakers didn’t and everyone there lost. Goods still have to be delivered to stores but I don’t know if those are Teamster represented drivers or not. I thought I read that the new owner was subcontracting a lot out. Who knows if the drivers are represented...but if they aren’t, I’d be leery of driving a truck with Hostess written on the side of it.


52 posted on 07/13/2013 5:21:21 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Calvin Locke
Abbott & Costello - Union Loafers
53 posted on 07/13/2013 5:21:49 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: mdittmar

The unions bankrupted a company and then demands they hire them back. Yeah, that’s going to happen.

Pray for America to Wake Up


54 posted on 07/13/2013 5:22:05 PM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: mdittmar

NOTE TO SELF: Never go up against the Twinkie!


55 posted on 07/13/2013 5:22:48 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: mdittmar

It is all done by machine. You don’t need bakers anymore.


56 posted on 07/13/2013 5:23:48 PM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
How about this for the five basic food groups: sugar, salt, fat, chocolate and caffeine?

Sounds good. The FR guide on how to eat healthy, live long and create many, many informative posts to FR. ;)

57 posted on 07/13/2013 5:25:22 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: mdittmar

Hostess-IBC...

Yet ANOTHER in the long line of American companies destroyed by an activist, political union.

But, you can’t say that, because you might be one of those “CRAZY!!” people. It doesn’t fit the pre-approved narrative.


58 posted on 07/13/2013 5:25:38 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: SamAdams76

“I bought a box of Twinkies at the supermarket this morning. They taste so much better now without the union stain.”

I bought a box today too. I’m not really that into this; I’m more of a meat and potatoes guy, but I wanted to see if they were as good as I remembered them being last time I had one or if it was some other snack cake with the same name and logos. I have to say, they’re as good as they’ve ever been.


59 posted on 07/13/2013 5:26:07 PM PDT by RightInJersey
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To: mdittmar
"... Rather than hire professional, experienced bakers who have produced quality snack cakes in the company’s bakeries for decades, Hostess management has chosen instead to hire primarily workers with little or no experience in the demanding wholesale snack cake baking industry."

Ho Ho, Ding Dongs. Donette shed Chocodile tears over it.

Ain't that a Zinger?

60 posted on 07/13/2013 5:26:23 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: mdittmar
The union workers were happy when Hostess went out of business, because they thought they could get a better deal with whoever bought the assets. Well, now they know how delusional that was.

The work at one company until you retire, and get a nice pension at the end model of business is long dead. Its too bad they had to lose so much to learn what most have already learned.

61 posted on 07/13/2013 5:26:49 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: DannyTN
"Well actually, the professional bakers were putting out stale tasting cupcakes for hostess for the last 20 years."

Bingo! That's also my observation. The sponge cake used to be very soft. Hasn't been that way for decades...

62 posted on 07/13/2013 5:27:53 PM PDT by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: central_va

Yes but I’d also point out that the teamsters honored their agreement and were quite pissed at the bakers union for screwing things up.


63 posted on 07/13/2013 5:28:14 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: mdittmar

That does it... I’m goin’ Little Debbie!


64 posted on 07/13/2013 5:29:44 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Crim

When all this was happening I remember thinking that the bakers were making WAY lees than the drivers. IIRCC the bakers were making 15/hr which seems reasonable for unionized labor.


65 posted on 07/13/2013 5:32:05 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mdittmar

I’d move operations to a right-to-work state and tell the union to go suck it. Seeing what the “professional” bakers did the company on the last go-’round, I’d tell them to take it on down the road, too.


66 posted on 07/13/2013 5:32:15 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: mdittmar

They’re not bakers, they’re pilots. They take the finished product off the assembly line and pile it in the warehouse.


67 posted on 07/13/2013 5:33:26 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: mdittmar

Hate to see the unions losing ground yet again. Gee, I just wonder if they aren’t part of the problem?/s Maybe Obama should make an Executive Order (ie ‘the King commands) that every business HAS to have union workers. Then the IRS could make us all comply./s (x2)


68 posted on 07/13/2013 5:36:23 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: volunbeer
They are building twinkies and ho-ho’s, not the space shuttle. Get over yourself.

Yeah really. Most of the process is probably automated anyway.

69 posted on 07/13/2013 5:39:37 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: mdittmar


70 posted on 07/13/2013 5:40:41 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: muir_redwoods

You’re probably right about assembly-line production. However, IMHO, it takes a lot of skill to be able to bake all types of baked goods — cakes, pastries, pies, breads, etc., I’ve worked in remote construction camps, the pastry chef was the most important, and most difficult to replace worker in the camp.


71 posted on 07/13/2013 5:40:46 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Your pastry chef is not running an automated line that makes thousands of cakes a day.


72 posted on 07/13/2013 5:42:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: central_va
However, I wonder if the Keebler Elves are in a union.

Might explain the waxing and waning of Hydrox.

73 posted on 07/13/2013 5:43:59 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: mdittmar

They are for the most part factory workers; they are not Wolfgang Puck or Paula Deen.


74 posted on 07/13/2013 5:44:03 PM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: mdittmar

Ha, this is from the AFL-CIO. Bye Bye unions, you are your own worst enemies.


75 posted on 07/13/2013 5:44:47 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: mdittmar

Maybe the Union should put up a picket line in Washington DC at all the Walmart stores in that market.


76 posted on 07/13/2013 5:45:07 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: mdittmar
It's a shame that Hostess is not rehiring the union thugs who tried to destroy the brand? HAH!

If my purchasing habits can help break union strangleholds then look for me to be purchasing Twinkies and raspberry filled and chocolate filled cupcakes and ... whew, I'm making myself hungry!

77 posted on 07/13/2013 5:50:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I just love the writing from that period.


78 posted on 07/13/2013 5:51:08 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

One of the former plants reopened is in Emporia, Kansas. Kansas is a right to work state. The bakery in St. Louis was not reopened. The Missouri democrats have fought right to wrok for the last 50 years.


79 posted on 07/13/2013 5:51:33 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: 1rudeboy

We keep hearing from unions that Americans can’t compete. Apparently some U.S. workers compete just fine thankyou...


80 posted on 07/13/2013 5:52:01 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Rockitz

I fully expect the union thuggery to sabotage in store products, even to the tune of poisoning, in order to ‘teach the industry a lesson about using the unions or else.’ Unions will murder children to throw their weight around. Evil bastids they are.


81 posted on 07/13/2013 5:52:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: montag813; mdittmar; Alex in chains
I love that show (Unwrapped) and also “How It’s Made”. I found this video, no sound and it doesn’t show the big automated computerized mixing vats but it does show just how automated the process is.

Hostess “Factory”

Here is another good one from “How It’s Made”. Not Twinkies but I imagine pretty close.

Snack Cakes

I would think that the only actual “real” professional and highly experienced bakers needed if any, are the ones working in the test kitchens developing new products. Otherwise you only need someone bright enough to follow directions and operate the machinery, basically a minimum wage job.

82 posted on 07/13/2013 5:52:58 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: montag813

Ha, you are kidding! That takes the cake/pun intended.


83 posted on 07/13/2013 5:54:26 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: jimfree

If they are “professional,experienced bakers” they should start their own business,imagine there is a market for quality baked goods,seems a shame that their talents will go to waste.


84 posted on 07/13/2013 5:56:45 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: expat_panama

Three unions signed a letter on Friday and sent it to Obama saying that Obamacare is going to hurt their members as business is cutting back hours to get under 30 hours. So screw the unions. I am going to but some new Hostess Cupcakes and I don’t eat that type of food.


85 posted on 07/13/2013 5:57:04 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Bring back American jobs, NOW!

The first thing we need to do, double the price of oil!!!

86 posted on 07/13/2013 5:58:38 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: mdittmar

Violence from union thugs to follow in 10 . . . 9 . . . 8 . . .


87 posted on 07/13/2013 6:01:29 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: mdittmar
“As the process moves forward, the BCTGM remains committed to taking all appropriate and necessary steps to protect the rights of our members and all Hostess Brands workers.”

The Union thugs just can't resist inserting the obligatory threat. Roughly translated as we will be attempting to unionize your factories well into the future.

88 posted on 07/13/2013 6:03:03 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

See my post #82, it is not even assembly line type production where you have workers doing any sort of hands on work – it’s all automated save for someone at the beginning operating and pouring pre-measured amounts into a big automated mixing vat and someone at the end taking the boxes and putting them onto pallets or loading them onto trucks.

Comparing someone working at a Hostess factory or a similar operation a “pastry chef” is like calling those frozen Lean Cuisine dinners – “cuisine”.


89 posted on 07/13/2013 6:04:38 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: NonValueAdded

Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi:

When you and the President sought our support for the Affordable Care Act (ACA), you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat. Right now, unless you and the Obama Administration enact an equitable fix, the ACA will shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.

Like millions of other Americans, our members are front-line workers in the American economy. We have been strong supporters of the notion that all Americans should have access to quality, affordable health care. We have also been strong supporters of you. In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision.

Now this vision has come back to haunt us.

Since the ACA was enacted, we have been bringing our deep concerns to the Administration, seeking reasonable regulatory interpretations to the statute that would help prevent the destruction of non-profit health plans. As you both know first-hand, our persuasive arguments have been disregarded and met with a stone wall by the White House and the pertinent agencies. This is especially stinging because other stakeholders have repeatedly received successful interpretations for their respective grievances. Most disconcerting of course is last week’s huge accommodation for the employer community—extending the statutorily mandated “December 31, 2013” deadline for the employer mandate and penalties.

Time is running out: Congress wrote this law; we voted for you. We have a problem; you need to fix it. The unintended consequences of the ACA are severe. Perverse incentives are already creating nightmare scenarios:

First, the law creates an incentive for employers to keep employees’ work hours below 30 hours a week. Numerous employers have begun to cut workers’ hours to avoid this obligation, and many of them are doing so openly. The impact is two-fold: fewer hours means less pay while also losing our current health benefits.

Second, millions of Americans are covered by non-profit health insurance plans like the ones in which most of our members participate. These non-profit plans are governed jointly by unions and companies under the Taft-Hartley Act. Our health plans have been built over decades by working men and women. Under the ACA as interpreted by the Administration, our employees will treated differently and not be eligible for subsidies afforded other citizens. As such, many employees will be relegated to second-class status and shut out of the help the law offers to for-profit insurance plans.

And finally, even though non-profit plans like ours won’t receive the same subsidies as for-profit plans, they’ll be taxed to pay for those subsidies. Taken together, these restrictions will make non-profit plans like ours unsustainable, and will undermine the health-care market of viable alternatives to the big health insurance companies.

On behalf of the millions of working men and women we represent and the families they support, we can no longer stand silent in the face of elements of the Affordable Care Act that will destroy the very health and wellbeing of our members along with millions of other hardworking Americans.

We believe that there are common-sense corrections that can be made within the existing statute that will allow our members to continue to keep their current health plans and benefits just as you and the President pledged. Unless changes are made, however, that promise is hollow.

We continue to stand behind real health care reform, but the law as it stands will hurt millions of Americans including the members of our respective unions.

We are looking to you to make sure these changes are made.

James P. Hoffa
General President
International Brotherhood of Teamsters

Joseph Hansen
International President
UFCW

D. Taylor
President
UNITE-HERE


90 posted on 07/13/2013 6:06:34 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mdittmar

Lighten up Skippy. Paying union dues does not make one a “professional”. I know a lot of people whom I consider being the best at what they do. They are not union members.


91 posted on 07/13/2013 6:10:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If America is a nation of immigrants, where's my free stuff?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Bump


92 posted on 07/13/2013 6:12:48 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: GeronL

Little Debbie snack cakes have gone up in price in the past year without competition. Voortman cookies have replaced Twinkies on the shelves and they are a tasty and cheaper snack alternative.


93 posted on 07/13/2013 6:14:42 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Vince Ferrer

IIRC, the BHO administration promised them “help” under the foreign competition compensation program if the union killed the company.


94 posted on 07/13/2013 6:15:36 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: 1010RD

You got to love the fact they unions now hate obama. Will the put the evil eye out on him? The Unions turned on Jack Kennedy and Bobbie Kennedy.


95 posted on 07/13/2013 6:18:44 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: Let's Roll

Since all their goodies tasted like they had been produced by robots in a chemistry lab why should anyone care whether the new company hires “professional bakers”?

Flame away twinkie lovers.

Why flame? You may like lutefisk or some other so-called food that I would retch at. You are entitled to your opinion and tastes, and others are entitled to theirs.
Or were you trying to intentionally irk others with your post?

96 posted on 07/13/2013 6:19:10 PM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: ncfool

I say we go after conservatives of all stripes. Romney lost white, blue collar, middle-class voters. Get them back and we get the whole shebang.


97 posted on 07/13/2013 6:21:42 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mdittmar

Their products taste like crap! Professional bakers? Please! My homemade goodies taste much better than this and I have no “professional” title. Plus I can make it cheaper than their crap using coconut oil, butter, real vanilla, and real chocolate.


98 posted on 07/13/2013 6:22:47 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Will you bake for me :-) Please......


99 posted on 07/13/2013 6:25:17 PM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: 1010RD; NonValueAdded; mdittmar
We have been strong supporters of the notion that all Americans should have access to quality, affordable health care. We have also been strong supporters of you. In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision.

Now this vision has come back to haunt us.

Well there is some justice in the world.

You thought the Democrats were your friends? Guess again.

Second, millions of Americans are covered by non-profit health insurance plans like the ones in which most of our members participate. These non-profit plans are governed jointly by unions and companies under the Taft-Hartley Act.

Non-profit! What a bald faced lie!

There are plenty of profits. They go to the Unions and the corporations that administer the plans. The only differences between the Union Plans and the for profit plans is that the Union members typically pay more for their plans and get less service for it. I know because I work for a company that has both. The non-union employees are much happier with their health care insurance than those who get the union insurance while paying less.

100 posted on 07/13/2013 6:26:40 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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