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Why the Zimmerman verdict is more important than O.J. trial (Back to Jim Crow says the author)
The Progressive ^ | July 17, 2013 | Kevin Alexander Gray

Posted on 07/19/2013 12:50:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I believe the George Zimmerman verdict will be of greater racial and civil significance for blacks than the O.J. Simpson trial.

First of all, there is no epidemic of old black ex-football player movie stars (allegedly) killing their young white wives and their friends.

But there has been a dramatic increase in the number of black males killed by whites under "stand your ground" laws. Defendants claiming "stand your ground" as a justification for their acts of violence are more likely to prevail if the victim is black. Seventy-three percent of those who killed a black person faced no penalty compared to 59% of those who killed a white, according to the Tampa Bay Times.

It's not so hard to imagine that this not guilty verdict might just give any white man the ammunition (pun intended) or gumption to approach any black man on the street and ask them anything they want, such as: "What are you doing? Where are you going? Why are you here?"

And what if the black man tells his white inquisitor to back off, and the white man responds in a menacing way or tries to detain him or attempts to lay hands on him? And what if the black fellow refuses to surrender to the stranger, how is it that he becomes the criminal and the white man has the right to kill him?

We may be returning to a practice that was common in past times when, if a white man was walking on a sidewalk and a black person was walking towards him on the same sidewalk, the black person had to step into the ditch or road and give the white man the whole sidewalk to pass.

One other thing that makes the Zimmerman case far more significant than the Simpson case is that what Zimmerman was accused of, and what the police are often guilty of, is denying people of color due process and equal treatment with their disparate use of official violence. And they are often willing to use deadly force even when their lives are not in danger and their victims are unarmed.

According to the Malcolm X Grassroots Movement, a black man, woman or child died at the trigger of law enforcement every 28 hours in America last year.

It's easy to kill, but to be civilized is to help people live and to seek ways to end animosity and needless death. You can't fall into the trap of criminalizing youth or using blanket stereotypes or fearing and wanting to kill someone because they don't look like you.

That's why the verdict in the Zimmerman case was so uncivilized, and why it will leave a deep scar for many years to come.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackrage; blacks; holder; racism; trayvon; zimmerman
Kevin Alexander Gray, Cultural name - Khalid Aikiiki Gamba (Eternal Friend & Warrior) is a writer and activist living in South Carolina. He can be reached at pmproj@progressive.org and is an Organizer at the Harriet Tubman Freedom House Project.

Hear him Sunday 4-5pm on "Live from the Land of Hopes and Dreams"on Sirius 146.

Regular columns in The Progressive and Counterpunch and is a writer for Progressive Media Project, based in Madison.

1 posted on 07/19/2013 12:50:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess this verdict is more important than OJ's because in his case the victims were white.

Do I get a prize?

2 posted on 07/19/2013 12:52:15 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Seventy-three percent of those who killed a black person faced no penalty compared to 59% of those who killed a white, according to the Tampa Bay Times.

And how many of those who killed a black person were black people?

3 posted on 07/19/2013 1:00:03 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Darren McCarty

And how many of those black persons (and white persons) shot were committing criminal acts at the time?


4 posted on 07/19/2013 1:01:17 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Uh, OJ gets away with murder.

Zimmerman gets away with keeping himself alive.

So in this polarized world, the latter is more important. ? !


5 posted on 07/19/2013 1:02:12 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe racism of any kind is a good thing, but black america needs to consider that given their decline since 65, maybe the days of Jim Crow were not all that bad.


6 posted on 07/19/2013 1:02:28 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But there has been a dramatic increase in the number of black males killed by whites under "stand your ground" laws.

An increase since when?

Citing other news sources and remaining ambiguous is poor form.

Perhaps males (including blacks) should not assault or rob anyone (including whites), then that pesky "self defense" stuff wouldn't be a problem.

7 posted on 07/19/2013 1:02:56 PM PDT by Toadman (To anger a Conservative, tell a lie. To anger a liberal, tell the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The OJ trial and GZ trial do have one thing in common. In both cases, the crimes had nothing to do with race, but the trials, the aftermath and the analysis were entirely about race.


8 posted on 07/19/2013 1:05:03 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My memory fails me....did white people riot when the OJ verdict was announced?


9 posted on 07/19/2013 1:05:30 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Imagine if GZ did not have a gun- how would this have ended?

Trayvon must have heard a neighbor and knew the cops were on the way- a few more punches and maybe a kick in the face or two and GZ would probably have ended up in the hospital OR WORSE

How was TRAYVON planning on ending this?


10 posted on 07/19/2013 1:06:12 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who needs OJ?

We have “Trayvon Martin Luther King” and his bloody hoodie now!


11 posted on 07/19/2013 1:07:15 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: DonaldC

I know what you’re getting at, but I’d rephrase:

Maybe the days before Johnson’s Great Society/Civil Rights Act were not all that bad.

Mostly intact black families. Mostly in-wedlock black births. Mostly WORKING black dads and moms who were largely proud of their work. No hate rap with vulgarities, looking at women like whores, killing anyone for looking at you wrong. And not blaming everyone and everything else for your own self-inflicted problems as individuals and as a race.


12 posted on 07/19/2013 1:09:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s becoming more clear each day that we can NEVER have a rational, reasonable discussion about race. There are Two Americas and never the tween shall meet. It is to the benefit of those who grind the grievance axe both in power and in monetary increases.
‘It’s a black thang. You’ll never understand.’
Just Move ON.


13 posted on 07/19/2013 1:09:56 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: Secret Agent Man

And I should add, No black babies being aborted at a higher rate than they’re given birth to.


14 posted on 07/19/2013 1:10:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I stand gracefully corrected... thanks!


15 posted on 07/19/2013 1:12:02 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC
If they were smart, they'd be agitating for jobs.

Rebuilding America's industries and having jobs would give them a sense of self worth and do a lot more for their race than laws that prosecute self defense victims.

16 posted on 07/19/2013 1:13:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DonaldC
If they were smart, they'd be agitating for jobs.

Rebuilding America's industries and having jobs would give them a sense of self worth and do a lot more for their race than laws that prosecute self defense victims.

17 posted on 07/19/2013 1:13:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fantasy author !


18 posted on 07/19/2013 1:15:24 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The author, like most Liberals, is projecting the opposite of the truth to advance Liberal Ideology. In truth, the author supports the idea behind Jim Crow, which was passed by Democrats in the early 20th Century to disarm blacks so that they could not fight back against the thuggish behavior of those who violently focused on race. Todays Liberals, like the author, want Zimmerman punished for daring to defend himself against the violent behavior of a thug whose culture is obsessed with race. Disarming law-abiding citizens so that violent thugs of this race-obsessed culture need not fear when they commit their heinous acts is EXACTLY the same thinking behind the passage of Jim Crow laws... hence modern Liberal authors must say that anyone opposing it must support Jim Crow.

Projection and the Race Card are the only tools in the Liberals Playbook these days. This is why the Zimmerman Verdict is so huge for them, and the 10,543 blacks killed by blacks in the 503 days between the shooting and the verdict need not get any attention whatsoever.

19 posted on 07/19/2013 1:15:34 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Obama:
"Trayvon Martin ‘could have been me 35 years ago’..."


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20 posted on 07/19/2013 1:15:59 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow. These folks are starting to make like “Jim Crow”, “racism” and they are lowering my intolerance for the KKK.

Somebody need to tell these fools that their race card is overdrawn and they need to start paying down on the principle before they try using it any more.


21 posted on 07/19/2013 1:18:51 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Darren McCarty
Seventy-three percent of those who killed a black person faced no penalty compared to 59% of those who killed a white, according to the Tampa Bay Times.

Some people just need killin'
22 posted on 07/19/2013 1:19:19 PM PDT by jrg
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To: Mr. K

I read somewhere that, if Martin survived, he would have been facing two counts of aggravated battery.


23 posted on 07/19/2013 1:20:16 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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... Those that have the bully pulpits out there to make a difference need to get off their collective asses to help diffuse the growing unrest that is being encouraged and inflamed by the administrations propaganda machine.

.... The problem with all of this race bating is that the Race Industry has been hiding and covering up any positive information attesting to the real character of Mr. George Zimmerman as opposed by the media fabricated one. The more information that gets out there that makes it to the vacant brains of the so called Low Information useless idiot public out there, the better chance that this incident will be subdued .... because ... let's face it ...... they picked the wrong guy to brand a Rabid Racist!!!

There absolutely needs to be a concerted effort to get the information out to the public even if it means spending a few advertising dollars to do so. There needs to be articles and perhaps viral videos and news specials made that tell the actual truth about Zimmerman!!!

..... For instance, unlike the vapid empty headed braindeads out there ... we all know that Zimmerman mentored under privileged black youth and was involved in the community ..... But, Did you all know .... that the evil George Zimmerman forced the investigation, arrest and discipline of a police Lieutenant's son who beat up a black youth ....... How much does America really know about George Zimmerman?

CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE ARTICLE

24 posted on 07/19/2013 1:22:44 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: DonaldC

Blacks have been practicing de facto segregation for decades, but nobody will talk about that.


25 posted on 07/19/2013 1:24:08 PM PDT by clintonh8r (white Caucasian)
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To: Little Ray

The defense used that in their closing statment

it was a good point!


26 posted on 07/19/2013 1:27:20 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
SYG, Castle Doctrine and other self defense laws have roots in the push back against Jim Crow laws. Yet today's knee-grows line up to help the Progressives destroy all of the progress made to secure black families.

The Castle Doctrine & Stand Your Ground – The Trial of Dr. Ossian Sweet TheConservativeTreeHouse

No Guns for Negroes Part One (video 10:00)

No Guns for Negroes Part Two (video 9:45)

Equal Gun Rights (video 0:52)

The Never Again Campaign (video 0:30)

0bunghole is trying to undo all of that.

27 posted on 07/19/2013 1:30:51 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Didn’t see a whole lot of statistics .... just a Progressive rant alluding to facts!


28 posted on 07/19/2013 2:00:13 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The short list would be the list of all administration officials that are NOT pathological liars!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SO what is he saying? One black life = two white lives? Hey, that guy killed by OJ was Jewish, wasn’t he? Maybe his life doesn’t count for anything.


29 posted on 07/19/2013 3:35:23 PM PDT by jocon307
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