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FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones
FoxNews.com ^ | July 19, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/20/2013 3:14:57 AM PDT by OwenKellogg

The FAA released a statement in response to questions about an ordinance under consideration in the tiny farming community of Deer Trail, Colo., that would encourage hunters to shoot down drones. The administration reminded the public that it regulates the nation's airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.

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Drone hunting season in one Colorado town!
1 posted on 07/20/2013 3:14:57 AM PDT by OwenKellogg
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To: OwenKellogg

Krauthammer on drones :

“I’m going to go hard left on you here, I’m going ACLU. I don’t want regulations, I don’t want restrictions, I want a ban on this. Drones are instruments of war. The Founders had a great aversion to any instruments of war, the use of the military inside even the United States. It didn’t like standing armies, it has all kinds of statutes of using the army in the country.

A drone is a high-tech version of an old army and a musket. It ought to be used in Somalia to hunt bad guys but not in America. I don’t want to see it hovering over anybody’s home. Yes, you can say we have satellites, we’ve got Google Street View and London has a camera on every street corner but that’s not an excuse to cave in on everything else and accept a society where you’re always under — being watched by the government. This is not what we want.

I would say that you ban it under all circumstances and I would predict, I’m not encouraging, but I an predicting that the first guy who uses a Second Amendment weapon to bring a drone down that’s been hovering over his house is going to be a folk hero in this country.”


2 posted on 07/20/2013 3:16:05 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is destroying the USA.)
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To: OwenKellogg

Americans warn against flying drones over US.


3 posted on 07/20/2013 3:16:58 AM PDT by Ray76 (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: OwenKellogg

He is right, the programming in the drone autonomous system is inherently militaristic, much like a soldier is programmed.


4 posted on 07/20/2013 3:18:16 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: OwenKellogg

Just a wild guess here, but I predict the first CONUS civilian use of a drone in an aggressive manner will be to shoot a homeowner’s dog.

Soon thereafter, the drone will release a statement through the controlling agency public information officer, “I was afraid for my life.”


5 posted on 07/20/2013 3:18:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

The question is whether the correct address was programmed into the drone, and whether or not the dog was “licensed.”


6 posted on 07/20/2013 3:23:00 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

LMAO!


7 posted on 07/20/2013 3:25:00 AM PDT by Ray76 (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: OwenKellogg
No guns?

Fine. We'll use lasers and EMP devices.

8 posted on 07/20/2013 3:29:01 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: OwenKellogg

What’s a drone? I thought it was a duck!


9 posted on 07/20/2013 3:40:00 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: OwenKellogg

The administration reminded the public that it regulates the nation’s airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.


Then they regulate the airspace over my house? And I can have no presumption of privacy?

We’re a half a step away from a “pre-crime” police state.

And, yes, your dogs are monitored through meta-data.


10 posted on 07/20/2013 3:41:45 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is destroying the USA.)
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To: OwenKellogg

Obama and Holder promise only to use them
to murder dissidents against their treason.


11 posted on 07/20/2013 3:44:27 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Gaffer
Just a wild guess here, but I predict the first CONUS civilian use of a drone in an aggressive manner will be to shoot a homeowner’s dog.

Soon thereafter, the drone will release a statement through the controlling agency public information officer, “I was afraid for my life.”

"When Pigs Fly!" :-)

12 posted on 07/20/2013 3:44:47 AM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: meyer

That phrase is about to take on a whole new meaning.


13 posted on 07/20/2013 3:47:12 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: OwenKellogg

“Drones are instruments of war. The Founders had a great aversion to any instruments of war, the use of the military inside even the United States. It didn’t like standing armies”

I’m going to disagree with the choice of words. I don’t think the Founders had an aversion to instruments of war at all. In fact IMHO they knew and respected instruments of war as the means available to the People, of protecting themselves from government overreach. They felt so strongly about it that they enumerated the individual right to own and possess instruments of war in the second amendment to the Constitution and said that right “shall not be infringed”.

...and I will sing my eternal song of subtle infringement that has been ongoing in this country since gun control for the children and the people has been front and center as a political issue. The first really egregious infringement was the NFA of 1934 followed by the 1968 gun bill and then the 1986 gun bill that essentially disarmed the American people of frontline small arms and placed the standing army at a supreme advantage over “the people”. The very thing the Founders were most concerned with.

...and in closing for you NRA proponents, the organization that not only stood by while all this was going on but assisted the infringement if not by their lack of doing then by their active participation.


14 posted on 07/20/2013 3:50:43 AM PDT by wita
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To: OwenKellogg

Anything under “navigable airspace” belongs to the property owner, except where ceeded or needed for safe landing and takeoff.

Sorry FAA, but if a drone is under 500 feet, it is fair game.


15 posted on 07/20/2013 4:04:19 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: OwenKellogg

I also predict that if someone comes forward claiming to have a drone shoot down the feds will come down on them like schumer on a TV camera.


16 posted on 07/20/2013 4:08:57 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: jboot
We'll use lasers and EMP devices.

I could see the art of amateur rocketry being advanced here. That and RC planes.

17 posted on 07/20/2013 4:18:14 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Shoot. Shovel. Shut up.

TC


18 posted on 07/20/2013 4:26:26 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: jboot
We'll use lasers and EMP devices.

Or something more subtle.

19 posted on 07/20/2013 4:29:41 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: OwenKellogg

I m warning the United States Government against firing a gun from a drone at Americans!

I can’t think of a quicker way to start a civil war in this great Nation than for the government to shoot and kill an American in his or her house on his or her private land by an over zealous “racist” Attorney General!! The government won’t have enough man power, resources, or strategic for knowledge to prevent what would happen all across this Country, in every Town, Village, dirt road, behind every rock, tree, hillside, highway sign, culvert. This socialist administration has no idea the shit storm that would erupt!


20 posted on 07/20/2013 4:46:49 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Gaffer

Our chocolate lab is well loved and if anyone shoots her, they may as well start shooting the rest of the family, because this family will shoot back to defend her!!!!


21 posted on 07/20/2013 4:48:42 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

May I correct you just a little?

Shoot, retrieve, shut the hell up!

Thanks


22 posted on 07/20/2013 4:50:12 AM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Diogenesis

> Obama and Holder promise only to use them
to murder dissidents against their treason.

0 has a bad track record on keeping promises and a lot of his outspoken critics seem to develop fatal health problems, car wrecks, and/or meet tragic endings.


23 posted on 07/20/2013 4:51:49 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: OwenKellogg

With the photographic capabilities of drones I don’t see them flying low enough for most of us to have a weapon capable of bringing one down.

Having said that I am all in favor of shooting them down if they are used against Americans in our country.

It
s bad enough they listen in on my telephone and watch what I buy in the store with their computers, I don’t need them watching me take a leak in my back yard.


24 posted on 07/20/2013 4:53:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: OwenKellogg
You know, we do have a Congress. It could outlaw this. It could also vote the WOT over, whether as victory or defeat, and if the terrorists keep popping up in certain ME countries, the FBI can demand their host country turn them over. If not Congress can vote for a declaration of war on that hostile nation.

As an aside, last month Congress voted to end the war in Afghanistan on Dec 31 2014.

25 posted on 07/20/2013 5:06:22 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: PotatoChop
Shoot, retrieve, shut the hell up!

Nope, you don't want to retrieve a drone - you can bet there will be an EPIRB or some similar locator beacon on board.

26 posted on 07/20/2013 5:10:38 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Venturer

>>With the photographic capabilities of drones I don’t see them flying low enough for most of us to have a weapon capable of bringing one down.<<

I don’t know. How many people are licensed to own machine guns, artillery pieces, tanks, etc? They have to be tired of shooting tin cans and paper targets.

I’m betting someone with a legal Ma Duece could easily bring a drone down.

And to the NSA trolls, FU.


27 posted on 07/20/2013 5:32:09 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: randog

Stingers.

Maybe some of the groups that we’ve given them to around the world would be kind enough to loan them to us...

As I recall, we gave them to the Taliban for use against the Russians.


28 posted on 07/20/2013 5:38:41 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: jboot
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29 posted on 07/20/2013 5:42:56 AM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: NTHockey
Since these things are RC, it seems there would also be ways to disrupt frequency to bring it down without shooting it.

Hate when that happens. :)

30 posted on 07/20/2013 5:50:32 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

most folks just can’t help but brag, course you are right in that one should just shut up if they do it.

Us to work in 5A910 of the Pentagon in the comm center.
Well named “The Puzzle Palace”.


31 posted on 07/20/2013 5:52:22 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: OwenKellogg
Does anyone know of a site with photos of all of the different styles of drones currently known to be used by the government? I highly doubt they are sending up the typical military-style Predator for domestic use. Too high profile.

I saw a flying wing style small plane/drone (the size/scale was very hard to tell) with front twin props fly very low over my property recently but I kind of live on the approach to the local airport.

32 posted on 07/20/2013 5:55:29 AM PDT by lwd
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To: Ray76

Amen, we are the people with the power. We say FAA you are forbidden to fly drones over our country, don’t even try.


33 posted on 07/20/2013 5:59:44 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Joe Boucher

yeah but there will not be just one, there will be many


34 posted on 07/20/2013 6:01:19 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Born to Conserve

How do you measure the altitude from the ground? You can’t. If you “eyeball” it, good luck proving your innocence in court.


35 posted on 07/20/2013 6:01:28 AM PDT by lwd
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To: lwd

Does anyone know of a site with photos of all of the different styles of drones currently known to be used by the government?


I don’t, but I thought about starting a website to monitor drones above the homeland.


36 posted on 07/20/2013 6:08:53 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation is destroying the USA.)
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To: yldstrk

Here’s hoping that they become like Canadian Geese in the swamps of North Dakota.
Sitting ducks so to say.


37 posted on 07/20/2013 6:11:02 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: OwenKellogg

“The FAA warns...” Just who are these anonymous nazi bureaucraps who issue this crap? I’d like to know their names, e-mail addresses and so forth. Justice WILL prevail in the United States.


38 posted on 07/20/2013 6:14:48 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: OwenKellogg

If were talking about low altitude, a balloon on a nylon string will bring them down...


39 posted on 07/20/2013 6:21:51 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: OwenKellogg

Whatever happened to property owners owning everything above their land? If a neighbor’s tree grows over your property, it’s your tree to chop down up to the property line.


40 posted on 07/20/2013 6:21:56 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: OwenKellogg; mickie
Well, if a shooter here grabs a bazooky from his garage and shoots down a drone, I hope it crashes into his bedroom, not mine.

Leni

41 posted on 07/20/2013 6:23:58 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: OwenKellogg

When drones are outlawed, only outlaws will have drones!


42 posted on 07/20/2013 6:36:42 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Joe Boucher
I called it Fort Fumble, or the Five Sided Monkey House.

I was in BE685, the Joint Data System Support Center. Not far from the Goal Post and the famous purple water fountain.

I heard it all was flooded up to the Mezzanine level on 9/11.

My last view of the Pentagon, and my favorite:


43 posted on 07/20/2013 6:37:50 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: urbanpovertylawcenter

“””When drones are outlawed, only outlaws will have drones!””””

Isn’t that what we have now?


44 posted on 07/20/2013 6:43:01 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: OwenKellogg

Deer Trail is sufficiently open space that there exists air that the FAA does not control. Shoot em down and let the feds try to justify why they were there. I would feel threatened by unknown aircraft overhead.....fire at will boys.


45 posted on 07/20/2013 6:54:24 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: JudgemAll

Careful you are coming awfully close to suggesting that soldiers should be killed


46 posted on 07/20/2013 6:55:47 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: lwd

Typical rangefinders for hunting would suffice, and will be needed to calculate trajectory.


47 posted on 07/20/2013 7:06:02 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: jboot

How many bored guys do you think will be out in their workshops on Saturdays drinking a beer and building a little handheld EMP that can turn a drone off? I’m guessing quite a few. :-)


48 posted on 07/20/2013 7:10:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: jboot

Fine. We’ll use lasers and EMP devices.
***************************************
A small EMP device or simply broadcasting static on whatever control freq. they use would be best ...


49 posted on 07/20/2013 7:12:00 AM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: OwenKellogg
The administration reminded the public that it regulates the nation's airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.

Not below specific altitudes except in approach and take-off corridors. IOW they do NOT control the air space five feet over my roof top. GTH FAA!

50 posted on 07/20/2013 7:14:24 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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