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ACLU to Holder: Zimmerman case is over
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| 7/21/2013
| Lisa De Pasquale
Posted on 07/21/2013 12:14:08 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: snarkytart
“Obama and Holder are arrogant, childish, and spiteful. They are investigating to keep Zimmerman under a constant intimidation of the federal government. Just like their little spite move telling the AG of Florida to put a hold on Zimmermans gun used to shoot Martin. That was just a big
Youre not gonna do what you want move. Until this case is closed by the Feds Zimmerman will be investigated, snooped on, phones tapped, history scoured for so-called racial bias, a snitch line will remain open, etc.
The point is to show Zimmerman who is boss regardless the verdict.”
Nailed it.
That is how racist and petty Obama and his bitch boy Holder really are.
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posted on
07/21/2013 3:46:49 PM PDT
by
marktwain
(The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
To: RoosterRedux
The only laws that my people holder and mac daddy the first follow are the ones they agree with.
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posted on
07/21/2013 3:46:58 PM PDT
by
chiefqc
To: txhurl
You know the regime is having trouble when the lap dogs start saying you’re going too far.
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posted on
07/21/2013 4:56:40 PM PDT
by
tbw2
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
When the ACLU tells liberals to stop you know they have really gone over the edge.
I don't think that's what's happening here. I think it much more likely the ACLU is acting in collusion with the Obama Administration to provide political cover for not proceeding with a Federal-level prosecution.
This is all political kabuki theater, as I see it. The goal isn't to get Zimmerman retried, but rather to repurpose the situation to go after stand your ground laws and promote gun control measures.
To: RoosterRedux
I have a dream.
I have a dream that the Sheriiff of the county where Sanford is tells Holder that he will arrest any Federal agents coming to Sanford with the intention of putting a man found not guilty by a jury of his peers into a double jeopardy situation.
And that includes Holder.
I have a dream.
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posted on
07/21/2013 5:03:30 PM PDT
by
exit82
("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
To: familyop; RoosterRedux
Although I loathe and despise the exploitation of pre-existing self-pity and self-infliction in the black community and political gain from it by this administration, my understanding of double jeopardy as construed by SCOTUS since 1959, is that one can be tried for the same offense “by separate sovereigns.” States are separate sovereign from each other and from the federal government, so theoretically, the feds could retry this state case in a federal court (if they have valid standing and cause of action). Of course, if Holder tried to do it, Zimmerman could possibly seek a restraining order while applying for certiorari from SCOTUS to reconsider the current law on double jeopardy.
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posted on
07/21/2013 5:17:59 PM PDT
by
PapaNew
To: RoosterRedux
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posted on
07/21/2013 5:21:53 PM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
To: JoeProBono
That is one disturbing photo. Al looks embalmed.
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posted on
07/21/2013 5:25:27 PM PDT
by
St_Thomas_Aquinas
( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
To: PapaNew
"...my understanding of double jeopardy as construed by SCOTUS since 1959, is that one can be tried for the same offense by separate sovereigns. States are separate sovereign from each other and from the federal government,..."
It seems odd when bearing the jurisdiction of the Constitution in mind, but I'll have a look at the case when time allows. Thanks. Sometimes, we can be desperate and hasty to have a terrible crime prosecuted. Is is also in some of those times, that we hurt our nation's future the most. Sometimes, even the call for states' rights might lead us to tyranny (in re. public corruption).
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posted on
07/21/2013 5:47:17 PM PDT
by
familyop
(We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
To: Dilbert San Diego
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posted on
07/21/2013 6:32:01 PM PDT
by
matt04
To: RoosterRedux
The case was OVER the Saturday before last! In fact, it was OVER when the cops wisely decided to not charge Zimmmerman in Feb 2012!
To: Dallas59
WHY is Osama Obama trying to start a Race War in the US?
To: toldyou
The pot could caused paranoia...The ‘lean’ could cause aggressive action and paranoia ...but no one is mentioning what his girlfriend said...She told him it could be a gay rapist and should not allow Zim to follow him home because there was a younger boy there....So his head was filled with more reasons to be paranoid....
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posted on
07/21/2013 6:47:35 PM PDT
by
hspirit
(Just think about it.)
To: x1stcav
I think they are becoming afraid of some of the same things we have been afraid of for a long time..
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posted on
07/21/2013 6:53:22 PM PDT
by
Quickgun
(I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
To: nickcarraway
“But he wants to say hes considering, to appease the people who want it”
“But he wants to say he’s considering, to stir up the rabble who want it”
There, fixed it.
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posted on
07/21/2013 7:25:57 PM PDT
by
KStorm
(Mere geographical location is what makes some people Americans.)
To: cynwoody
What next? On-line polling on aol/Huffpost? Watch them do that now.
They’ll call it Virtual Lynch Mob.
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posted on
07/21/2013 8:34:28 PM PDT
by
Eleutheria5
(End the occupation. Annex today.)
To: nickcarraway
I believe Holder has no intention of pursuing federal charges.Agreed, and he never did.
Holder and Ubama do, however, have to do a dance for the benefit of the ignorant masses that support them. This letter from the ACLU was no doubt requested on the q t by Holder. He's trying to get himself as much cover as possible before he sheepishly admits to the ignorant masses there's nothing more he can do, gee whiz and gosh darn it all. It's all bukkake theater with this crowd.
To: Quickgun
Sh!t! More people drawing down the ammo stocks.
Who would’ve thunk?
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posted on
07/21/2013 9:21:40 PM PDT
by
x1stcav
("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
To: piytar
"However, in this case, Florida acted at the behest of the President and DoJ, so the first case counts as both a federal and a state prosecution for double jeopardy purposes. The federal government therefore does get another try." The DOJ was operating in the background to drum up protests - they were not an official party in the criminal proceedings. Therefore, they can still bring a separate, unrelated case based on different FedLaw.
Double Jeopardy can only be claimed for prosecution on the same state murder charges (or the lesser charges presented by prosecution, enumerated by the judge, and considered by the jury).
Zimmerman can still be hounded on Fed or state civil charges (that's how OJ was successfully sued before his kidnapping conviction).
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posted on
07/22/2013 12:42:50 AM PDT
by
uncommonsense
(Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
To: 2harddrive
WHY is Osama Obama trying to start a Race War in the US? And more importantly, why hasn't anyone asked him that question on record? We know that ABC NBC CBS PBS NPR CNN MCNBC BBC never will. Someone needs to throw it out there just to see their reaction.
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posted on
07/22/2013 4:56:52 AM PDT
by
Cyclone59
(I wish people would get their heads out of their butts and their noses out of everyones business)
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