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For blacks, empathy with Obama trumps his economic record (race trumps all)
The Hill ^ | 7/22/2013

Posted on 07/22/2013 3:48:29 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: Altura Ct.
Of course it does the only real question is when will whites stand up against it?

And how is that to be accomplished electorally? Shifting demographics, which will take a seismic shift upon passage of the alien amnesty bill, likely will likely saddle us with race-based, Obama-type presidents into the unforeseeable future.

61 posted on 07/22/2013 7:17:47 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: markomalley

Blood is thicker than almost anything - except, perhaps, the Liberal mind.


62 posted on 07/22/2013 7:31:12 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: bert

I have always wondered if the blacks were a trojan horse delivered by the muslim slavers and wether iur response shoulde be “get off our lawn”. Or sometinhg else.


63 posted on 07/22/2013 7:44:03 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: markomalley
It is ironic that Blacks living on the liberal plantation have been hurt the most by Obama’s policies. Black unemployment is far higher than the country as a whole and potentially bringing in a flood of illegal immigrants would only make this worse. Schools in mainly Black neighborhoods are almost universally poor performing while the teacher's union's get fat checks and bonuses for faking test scores. Blacks living on the liberal plantation have been encouraged and enabled to develop a “gangsta” culture that shuns education, glorifies violence and offers rap stars, pimps and drug dealers as role models. Even the Black ghetto language that assures the speakers will not be able to find even menial jobs is celebrated and defended by liberals. Trayvon and Jeantel are truly the children of Obama’s policies.
64 posted on 07/22/2013 7:57:05 AM PDT by The Great RJ (construction)
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To: bert; markomalley
No, African Americans are not analogous to an alien species. I reject that suggestion in its entirely.

And their present calamitous situation is not a matter of black color, African origins, slave culture, or the risks of exobiology. It's something else.

How about a special legislative committee to study the “continuing effects of a culture of perpetual grievance, loss of father-headed families, and degrading welfare dependency” on African-Americans?

At the time of the Harlem Renaissance --- a wonderful outpouring of creativity in poetry, drama, dance, music, philosophy, literature, political and religious thought in the 1920's and 1930's --- 90% of the Black children in Harlem were living in households headed by their own married fathers and mothers.

Something catastrophically destructive happened to the Black community, not just before 1865, or between Reconstruction and the Great Depression, but between the 1930's and now. It wasn't some kind of exotic-afro-alienism. And it wasn't slavery.

Think, think.

65 posted on 07/22/2013 8:09:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: bubman

Yes, the Shelby Steele article - it was excellent and I hope somebody posts it today.


66 posted on 07/22/2013 8:17:43 AM PDT by livius
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To: Mrs. Don-o

One of the things that happened was the Great Society. Many blacks in NYC were fairly poor, but they were in the position of any immigrant group, in the sense that most of them actually were immigrants from the South and were trying to make their way into a different, more economically advantageous culture.

The black crime rate was always higher, but it was not the sort of blatant, callous crime that it reflects now. However, it wasn’t impossible for whites, whether Anglo or Hispanic, native-born or immigrant, to live in a black area because there was a large black working class who wanted the same things for their kids as everybody else.

When I was a child (1950s), the projects in Harlem were mixed, and families could only get in if the parents of the children were married and if one of them had a job. Then suddenly in the mid-60s, they dropped both of those requirements (and also started permitting unmarried mothers), and within no time at all the projects were all black and had become seething hotbeds of crime and destruction.

Decent black people did not like this at all, btw. I was a waitress when I was in college and one of my fellow waitresses was a black woman in her 40s or so who had several children (and a husband, of course) and lived in the projects. She was furious and said this was going to give all the wrong messages to black children. And sure enough, it did, even to her kids: a year later, her 16 year old daughter was pregnant and applying for her “own” apartment in the projects. She felt she had failed and she was very, very upset - but it was the times, and it was the message coming out in a very powerful way, with financial incentives, from the federal government, the city government and all of the media.


67 posted on 07/22/2013 8:26:35 AM PDT by livius
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To: A_perfect_lady
Seeing the way the media twisted this, I have begun to wonder if we ever got the real story on Emmett Till.

I would hope so, journalist did their job back then. I'm not sure how the Till's story could be twisted, they killed a child.
68 posted on 07/22/2013 8:47:26 AM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian *born again believer in Jesus Christ* Black Man!)
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To: ForAmerica

If journalists back then were what they are now, I’d want to see the birth certificate, the autopsy, and all the other things I had to hunt down on my own to get THIS story sorted out. But I hope you are right, and back then journalists really were objective and thorough and honest.


69 posted on 07/22/2013 8:56:33 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: livius
My experience was much like yours. I was a kid in the 50's living in a Great Lakes industrial city where the neighborhoods were largely defined via parishes. (As in "Oh, youse guys live up dere in Blessit Sacrament? We're over at St. Stan's.") The folks who were not Catholics were also defined by churches, e.g. St. James A.M.E., Fellowship Church of God in Christ.

Although we lived just 3 blocks from St James A.M.E., we weren't much familiar with it except for one weekend every summer, when they had their Food & Faith Festival, blocked off the street, and sold sweet potato pies, fried catfish and hush puppies. And, dare I mention it, slabs of cold watermelon. White kids like my brother and I could freely wander over for catfish and stay for the music, early in the day it was Gospel, and later Old Timey and Blues.

There was a sense of "Ethnic Neighborhoods," but there was not race hatred. Black or white, you could get a good job right out of high school, because we had industries: a paper mill, a big G.E. plant, Westinghouse aluminum, Bucyrus-Erie, National Forge & Steel.

So lots of young adults got pretty good-paying jobs right out of high school,got married, got mortgages on houses, got families started. There was a lot of teenage childbearing, but it wasn't a problem because it was married teenagers at 18 and 19.

That's all long gone. We were first redeveloped (which devastated the parish neighborhoods and the Black churches as well), then de-industrialized, then de-populated.

I wouldn't go back there now. It's not Detroit, but it's just one more flake of Rust Belt corrosion.

In retrospect, its decline has the overall appearance of having been deliberate. From Redevelopment on down.

70 posted on 07/22/2013 9:11:30 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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