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Urban Sprawl Is Literally Stranding the Poor (Paul Krugman)
Newser ^ | 07/28/2013 | Kevin Spak

Posted on 07/29/2013 11:51:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

(Newser) – Detroit spent the last decade spiraling into bankruptcy, while Atlanta spent it growing like mad. But the two cities have something in common: "Both are places where the American dream seems to be dying," writes Paul Krugman at the New York Times. Social mobility is low in both cities—meaning the poor are staying poor. Why? Well, a new study suggests that it might be because they're just too spread out. "Sprawl may be killing Horatio Alger."

The study found that social mobility was correlated with how far apart various classes lived from each other. "In Atlanta, poor and rich neighborhoods are far apart because, basically, everything is far apart; Atlanta is the Sultan of Sprawl," Krugman writes. "Disadvantaged workers often find themselves stranded; there may be jobs available somewhere, but they literally can't get there." We need to build smarter, more compact population centers that let families get by without multiple cars. Click for Krugman's full column.

 

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: agenda21; atlanta; detroit; urbansprawl
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So. Urban Sprawl is to blame for Society's problems? All Righty Then.
1 posted on 07/29/2013 11:51:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

If only the peasants would let us put them in 100 story ant farms so they could be more easily controlled...


2 posted on 07/29/2013 11:53:09 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Responsibility2nd

Government barracks should do it - you’ll have to force the wealthy to live in them at gunpoint, but hey, it’s for the Greater Good.


3 posted on 07/29/2013 11:53:22 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Responsibility2nd
Well, isn't that special.

I'm sure that Mr. Krugman will be the first to volunteer to move some of these "disadvantaged" folks right in next door to him.

4 posted on 07/29/2013 11:53:37 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Responsibility2nd

Gotta agree that Atlanta is reaallly spread out.

Hardly compares with the NYC or LA metroplexes, though.


5 posted on 07/29/2013 11:53:46 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Responsibility2nd
The purpose of Section 8 housing is to disperse the Eric Holder underclass into all the other strata of neighborhoods.

Either Section 8 is a good idea, or it's not.

You can't have it both ways Paul, even if you are schizophrenic.

6 posted on 07/29/2013 11:55:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Central planners like to think they have all the answers, yet they always fail.


7 posted on 07/29/2013 11:55:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

translation: There is not enough of us piled up like rats in mega-cities to support the subsidies mega-cities cannot survive without.


8 posted on 07/29/2013 11:55:29 AM PDT by Wuli (uir)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So, let’s gentrify all the cities and push the poor out into the suburbs. Retake the cities, if you can stand it.


9 posted on 07/29/2013 11:55:44 AM PDT by Eva (B Obama is to Trayvon Martin as Al Sharpton is to Tawana Brawley)
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10 posted on 07/29/2013 11:56:18 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Black Agnes

That is the premise of the 1971 novel by Robert Silverberg......only the buildings were a mile high and held millions of people........

11 posted on 07/29/2013 11:57:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: wbill
I'm sure that Mr. Krugman will be the first to volunteer to move some of these "disadvantaged" folks right in next door to him.

I'm pretty sure some of his mansions have plenty of room to house several dozen families right under his roof.

12 posted on 07/29/2013 11:57:38 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Responsibility2nd
Yeah, it's sprawl's fault. /sarcasm.

All those people that moved to the townships caused Detroit to fubar itself with bad schools, high costs, bad services, and crime everywhere.

13 posted on 07/29/2013 11:58:01 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Poor is a CHOICE, Paul. You want to deprive them of their CHOICE, don’t you?


14 posted on 07/29/2013 11:58:11 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Oh, there’s plenty of American Dream just outside Atlanta. I’m living it.


15 posted on 07/29/2013 11:58:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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Sorry, Mr. Krugman, it won't work. The reason people left the dense warrens of the inner city was to get away from the crime, trash, and civic disorder. Giving the criminals and drug addicts more mobility will only push them farther away. The answer is to fix the problems in the culture, not to try to make them unavoidable.
16 posted on 07/29/2013 11:58:34 AM PDT by Old North State
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To: Responsibility2nd

Krugman gets it all wrong. An executive living in wealthy Lower Merion Township in the Philly burbs has much more in common with a contemporary in Singapore, Frankfurt or Dubai than he does with minimum-wage schmoos living just five miles away from him in West Philly.


17 posted on 07/29/2013 11:58:58 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Old North State

bump!


18 posted on 07/29/2013 11:59:15 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Black Agnes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Inside


19 posted on 07/29/2013 11:59:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Speaking of sprawl...


20 posted on 07/29/2013 11:59:44 AM PDT by maggief
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