Skip to comments.Urban Sprawl Is Literally Stranding the Poor (Paul Krugman)
Posted on 07/29/2013 11:51:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
(Newser) – Detroit spent the last decade spiraling into bankruptcy, while Atlanta spent it growing like mad. But the two cities have something in common: "Both are places where the American dream seems to be dying," writes Paul Krugman at the New York Times. Social mobility is low in both cities—meaning the poor are staying poor. Why? Well, a new study suggests that it might be because they're just too spread out. "Sprawl may be killing Horatio Alger."
The study found that social mobility was correlated with how far apart various classes lived from each other. "In Atlanta, poor and rich neighborhoods are far apart because, basically, everything is far apart; Atlanta is the Sultan of Sprawl," Krugman writes. "Disadvantaged workers often find themselves stranded; there may be jobs available somewhere, but they literally can't get there." We need to build smarter, more compact population centers that let families get by without multiple cars. Click for Krugman's full column.
If only the peasants would let us put them in 100 story ant farms so they could be more easily controlled...
Government barracks should do it - you’ll have to force the wealthy to live in them at gunpoint, but hey, it’s for the Greater Good.
I'm sure that Mr. Krugman will be the first to volunteer to move some of these "disadvantaged" folks right in next door to him.
Gotta agree that Atlanta is reaallly spread out.
Hardly compares with the NYC or LA metroplexes, though.
Either Section 8 is a good idea, or it's not.
You can't have it both ways Paul, even if you are schizophrenic.
Central planners like to think they have all the answers, yet they always fail.
translation: There is not enough of us piled up like rats in mega-cities to support the subsidies mega-cities cannot survive without.
So, let’s gentrify all the cities and push the poor out into the suburbs. Retake the cities, if you can stand it.
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That is the premise of the 1971 novel by Robert Silverberg......only the buildings were a mile high and held millions of people........
I'm pretty sure some of his mansions have plenty of room to house several dozen families right under his roof.
All those people that moved to the townships caused Detroit to fubar itself with bad schools, high costs, bad services, and crime everywhere.
Poor is a CHOICE, Paul. You want to deprive them of their CHOICE, don’t you?
Oh, there’s plenty of American Dream just outside Atlanta. I’m living it.
Krugman gets it all wrong. An executive living in wealthy Lower Merion Township in the Philly burbs has much more in common with a contemporary in Singapore, Frankfurt or Dubai than he does with minimum-wage schmoos living just five miles away from him in West Philly.
I'm just out of reach of the ATL thugs.
The left actually does have a plan to solve some of this. They want to build multi-modal transportation corridors that link population centers, moving people out of the dying inner cities to suburban hubs for the jobs and take them back to their homes at night. The problem is that once they get out of the slums and find a job in the suburbs, they don’t want to go back to the city, either.
By the way, these multi-modal transportation corridors are called, “Gateways.” There are all kinds of “Gateways” and they all have a connection to the Agenda 21.
If they push “the poor” out to the suburbs, those who don’t want to live next to them will move elsewhere, and if that’s back in the city, they’ll do it.
Indeed, fix their anti-culture, and we can all get along.
One wonders why manufacturing companies aren’t fighting each other for the chance to locate factories in the midst of this abundant, stranded labor pool.
It is spread out due to the lack of topographical barriers to development.
I might have to put that one on my reading list.
Think about the terror targets those would represent if built today.
In Atlanta, African-Americans are 54 percent of the population, but are responsible for 100 percent of homicide, 95 percent of rape, 94 percent of robbery, 84 percent of aggravated assault, and 93 percent of burglary. Source: APD Uniform Crime Reports, Apr 2011 to Apr 2012
That's what happened in France.
Because social welfare programs are keeping the poor anchored to the government teat.
Exactly where the Progressives want them.
The poor have no reason to go where the jobs are they can stay in the neighborhoods where they grew up with their friends and the government will supply everything they need.
And the government also makes sure that there is a grave price to pay for leaving the plantation. If they get a job that does not pay enough to supply all of their needs but pays just a little too much they loose all of the benefits that they are currently getting.
These people are not total idiots. They will stay where they are and keep collecting their welfare checks and keep voting Democrat.
One wonders why manufacturing companies arent fighting each other for the chance to locate factories in the midst of this abundant, stranded labor pool.
LOL, best comment all day!
This simple assclown Krugman would have been right at home in the Soviet Union writing up the next "Five Year Plan".
LOL - yeah, and global warming... Liberals are shameless in the ways they use blacks.
The thing about cities is that they’re more economically efficient at the macro level. Sprawl adds transportation and distribution costs, infrastructure costs, etc. Plus the cost of converting land into residential uses, probably forever preempting it’s use for any other economic activity.
Any culture that doesn’t excpect more from their children than their own generation is a degenerate culture and doomed to certain failure...
Contemporary Black Culture was killed by LBJ....
He would have loved living in one of these luxurious apartments.
Just remember that with an 100 story ‘ant farm’ it’s real easy to introduce some ‘pesticide’ to clear out those pesty ‘ants’.
Paul Krugman is a genius.....ask any libtard....
I'll go with "Not", in this case.
Apartment complex that I lived in went Section 8. It went from a decent, college-student and blue-collar clientele, to completely unlivable in a matter of weeks. I broke my lease to get out.
The RAT solution is forcing affordable housing into every neighborhood. There is a battle going on in Westchester, New York right now. The county executive, a Republican, is fighting HUD on the level of Section 8 housing being foisted on one of the most upscale bedroom communities in the US.
Which is why the elites crave them so.
Just cut off the water, or food, or even air circulation.
They could easily become the Warsaw Ghetto.
And you KNOW that weapons of any kind, even largish kitchen knives, would be verboten.
(except of course for a select few and the politically protected groups like gang bangers)
No. That scumbag Krugman would be on the other side of town in the chateaus, nose in the air with the rest of the elite political class.
Their planning is strictly for the proletariat, not for themselves.
True, I’m sure he thinks he’d have his own “dacha.”
I thought the aim of government planners was to separate residential and commercial areas.
Mission accomplished, right?
And now from the central planners comes “but we didn’t mean THAT!”
Every single thing this guy says is stupid. I think even other lefties know that.
Atlanta has affluent Black suburbs that are so desirable that Whites move in and don’t mind being the minority. MLK was right about character.
He is ALWAYS wrong
It might be a tipping point phenomenon... when blacks are more than 30% of the population, white producers leave ...
Nope. Just covert support for Agenda 21. Populations need to be locked up in urban areas and arcologies. Even if they don’t want to be...